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05-04-2005, 02:13 PM
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Free Agent Banter

This post is to guess as to possible destinations of free agents. Please everyone feel free to post where you think top free agents are going and keep in mind the possible cap, thus every top player going to the Leafs or Wings or Stars is unlikely.

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Paul Kariya - Vancouver - is a B.C. boy, and hasn't succeeded in Colorado, would also be a welcome addition if Naslund doesn't return, but could also bring the Sedins up a level, or play with Reid/Kesler if they make the big club. Is strong defensively and explosive offensively.

Glen Murray - Toronto - I'll go out on a limb here as Toronto will likely lose Mogilny, and possibly Nolan, as they won't be rushing to resign either of them given their touch and go tenure with the Leafs. Murray is a top right winger who could play with Sundin and score 30-40 goals consistently. While this wouldn't make the Leafs much younger it would at least shave a few years off.

Scott Neidermayer - Vancouver - is a very proud B.C. boy, and is unlikely to resign with NJ given their disputes last year about resigning him. Would be a great addition to any team, but would solidify the Vancouver defense greatly, giving a solid Top-3 of Jovo, Onhlund, and Scotty. Would have to take a pay cut however.

Chris Pronger - Ottawa - assuming he becomes a UFA in the new system, I could see Ottawa springing for his talent, especially if they go with Prusek and Emery in net, in order to give them every opportunity to succeed with the most solid defense in the league. Ottawa would likely have cap room to spare to sign him, and could greatly use a second huge defenseman to log close to 30 minutes a game, like Chara does. Would provide a great partner for Redden.

Nikolai Khabibulin - Tampa Bay - while the rumors continue about Grahame taking over, I don't see it happening after the Bulin-wall carries them to the Cup.

Ziggy Palffy - NY Islanders - They'll continue to try and find a partner for Yashin, and Palffy may fit the bill. Though payroll concerns may decrease the chance of this happening.

Sergei Gonchar - Philadelphia - Philly's defense will need some upgrading as they've likely lost Ragnarsson and other than Pitkanen don't have a strong offensive defenseman, as Desjardins is waning in his production.

Owen Nolan - Calgary - purely hypothetical, but he could be a great 2nd liner after Iginla, and plays a strong Sutter-style game. He had his best years under Sutter in San Jose, and Sutter could play a huge role in getting him to Calgary.

Brian Leetch - NY - kind of a given that if he resigns with anyone, it will be NY.

Eric Desjardins - Montreal - If Philly doesn't resign him, I could see Montreal making a pitch, as they have a low payroll and will have room to spare with Brisebois gone. Desjardins won a cup with MTL in '93 and would solidify their defense.

Cory Stillman - Boston - could come cheap and play a top-six role. While he may not maintain a PPG pace, he can likely come up with 25 goals and 40-50 assists playing with either Bergeron or Thornton.

Pavol Demitra - NY - Sather loves signing injury prone overpaid players so why would next season be any exception. Don't get me wrong Demitra's great, just prone to injuries and overpaid.

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Nolan is under contract with the Leafs for 2005-2006. If he goes anywhere it will be by buyout or trade.

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I'm sure I could go over each one and say why it wouldn't happen, but that's just not me. The only one of those that makes no sense at all is Pronger to Ottawa. Granted, he'd be a great addition to their team, but the contract he will demand (and get) will be better spent on a more pressing need for the team.

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If financially possible, which I doubt, I see the Wings making a pitch at either Kovalev or Murray to add scoring size to the wing. Personally I'd say Kovalev would be the better fit. He's playing a lot on Datsyuk's wing on the Russian team and has had great success with Lang in the past.

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Scott Neidermayer - Vancouver - is a very proud B.C. boy, and is unlikely to resign with NJ given their disputes last year about resigning him. Would be a great addition to any team, but would solidify the Vancouver defense greatly, giving a solid Top-3 of Jovo, Onhlund, and Scotty. Would have to take a pay cut however.

Chris Pronger - Ottawa - assuming he becomes a UFA in the new system, I could see Ottawa springing for his talent, especially if they go with Prusek and Emery in net, in order to give them every opportunity to succeed with the most solid defense in the league. Ottawa would likely have cap room to spare to sign him, and could greatly use a second huge defenseman to log close to 30 minutes a game, like Chara does. Would provide a great partner for Redden.

Ziggy Palffy - NY Islanders - They'll continue to try and find a partner for Yashin, and Palffy may fit the bill. Though payroll concerns may decrease the chance of this happening.

Sergei Gonchar - Philadelphia - Philly's defense will need some upgrading as they've likely lost Ragnarsson and other than Pitkanen don't have a strong offensive defenseman, as Desjardins is waning in his production.


Brian Leetch - NY - kind of a given that if he resigns with anyone, it will be NY.

Pavol Demitra - NY - Sather loves signing injury prone overpaid players so why would next season be any exception. Don't get me wrong Demitra's great, just prone to injuries and overpaid.
Leetch-if he goes back to the nyr,do the Leafs have enough freed up salary+rollbacks to make a run at Neidermayer or Pronger?..if Leetch stays with the Leafs,I'd expect the rangers to spend their cap money on defense,not Demitra.

Neidermayer-rejected the Devils $7m a yr offer last season.I don't see another team topping that under a cap.Is the offer still on the table from NJ once the new cba is signed?If Neidermayer leaves NJ,they gonna make a run at Pronger using that $7m?

Palffy-rejected LA's 3 yr/$21m offer.Isles have cheaper rws in Hunter,Parrish,Weinhandl,Asham and will spend their money on defense.I'd love to see them make a run at an elite d-man like Neidermayer or Pronger,but expect them to sign lesser d-men like Aucoin/Hamrlik.

Gonchar-B's will have more cap room then Philly.If Boston and Philly's offers were close,I'd expect him to sign with Philly.Boston's going to be undergoing a major overhaul.

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Pavol Demitra - NY - Sather loves signing injury prone overpaid players so why would next season be any exception. Don't get me wrong Demitra's great, just prone to injuries and overpaid.
Have you been paying attention to what's been going on with the Rangers.

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Pronger - I'm gonna go out on a limb here, if he doesn't resign with St Louis I think a team like Atlanta would make tons of sense. All they're missing is a Dman to build their back end around and Pronger would fit the bill. Plus, under a potentially restrictive cap, Atlanta would be one team that could afford his contract.

Great post BTW. Lots of fun

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Pronger - I'm gonna go out on a limb here, if he doesn't resign with St Louis I think a team like Atlanta would make tons of sense. All they're missing is a Dman to build their back end around and Pronger would fit the bill. Plus, under a potentially restrictive cap, Atlanta would be one team that could afford his contract.

Great post BTW. Lots of fun
I completely agree. I see a lot of these guys heading to the young upstart teams. Especially with a cap floor in place.

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Nolan is under contract with the Leafs for 2005-2006. If he goes anywhere it will be by buyout or trade.
I thought the Leafs held a team option on Nolan's contract at 7.5 million for 2005-2006 but that he didn't have a definite contract? Anybody know for sure?

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Some players are going to have to now decide what they really want: go for the contract or try to win the Cup. A guy like Pronger has the option to go for either. Try to get a bigger contract with a team that has the cap room but may not have a legitimate shot, or take an offer that's not really what he thinks he can get elsewhere but gives him his best shot at winning the Cup. Hey, Kariya tried it without the pressure of a cap.

It will be interesting when the League gets going one day. What is the real motivation for some players?

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I thought the Leafs held a team option on Nolan's contract at 7.5 million for 2005-2006 but that he didn't have a definite contract? Anybody know for sure?
It's 6.5, and yes I do know for sure that it isn't optional.

I suspect the Leafs will do something with his contract.

He's their only big-money forward other than Sundin, and with so many free agents available I'm quite sure they are considering other options up front. Nolan suffered two serious injuries last season alone and the Leafs may just buy him out if he won't renegotiate.

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Ziggy Palffy - NY Islanders - They'll continue to try and find a partner for Yashin, and Palffy may fit the bill. Though payroll concerns may decrease the chance of this happening.
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There isn't even a vague chance that the Isles sign Palffy. If they have dollars to spend, and room on the payroll, they'll look to rebuild the defense first. With Hunter, Parrish, Weinhandl, and others, RW is not a priority.

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I still believe the Kings will sign Kariya.

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I still believe the Kings will sign Kariya.
LOL he'd be dead before Christmas. Combining an injury bitten player with an injury bitten team isn't a good idea. Staples is cursed I tell ya. It caught a handful of Wings last season, most notably Kronwall breaking his leg on a rut during warmups.

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Boston will sign:

Neidermayer or Aucoin, Demitra or Palffy and will resign Gonchar.

Boston is going into a major rebuild, and what better way to do it than to get a franchise defenseman and an elite winger?

I'd love to see this lineup

Samsonov-Thornton-Palffy
Bergeron-Demitra-Hilbert
Axelsson-Boyes-Lapointe
Orr-Lacouture-Fitzgerald

Neidermayer-Gonchar
Boynton-Stuart
Gill-Jurcina

Raycroft
Toivonen

Cup for sure with that *****in' lineup.

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Expect the Hawks to overpay for one of the following: Murray, Palffy, Demitra, Kariya, Allison.

I hope it's Murray. Pulford promised Hawk fans that as soon as the lockout is over he will sign two first line UFA forwards. Im not expecting two, but I think one is likely.

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IMO ...

Even with Brisebois gone, Montreal don't need Desjardins (Markov, Souray, Hainsey, Rivet, Komisarek, Bouillon). He'll re-sign with Philly.

Owan Nolan's contract has a clause that rolled the final year over if the 2004-2005 season was lost due to lockout. Regardless of the state of the option with T.O. he's under contract.

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It's 6.5, and yes I do know for sure that it isn't optional.

I suspect the Leafs will do something with his contract.

He's their only big-money forward other than Sundin, and with so many free agents available I'm quite sure they are considering other options up front. Nolan suffered two serious injuries last season alone and the Leafs may just buy him out if he won't renegotiate.
That will be an interesting piece of CBA negotiations, buyout rates as well as the % of the buyout that will count toward the cap. Those are bigs question we'll need answered before that happens

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If Toronto buys out Nolan I think Ottawa would maybe take a look at him.

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I don't think the Flyers will be hot after Gonchar. They'll look at someone on Ragnarsson's level and ability. With Johnsson, Desjardins, Pitkanen, Seidenberg, the offense will take care of itself. We need someone who can be on out top PK unit.

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I don't think the Flyers will be hot after Gonchar. They'll look at someone on Ragnarsson's level and ability. With Johnsson, Desjardins, Pitkanen, Seidenberg, the offense will take care of itself. We need someone who can be on out top PK unit.

I agree, I imagine the Flyers are looking at two specific places: a top 4 d-man to replace Rags, and a 2nd line LW. I would imagine we'd be after a more defensive-minded d-man, and younger than Ragnarsson to boot. Anyone UFA fit that bill? Or a scoring line left winger?

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I don't think the Flyers will be hot after Gonchar. They'll look at someone on Ragnarsson's level and ability. With Johnsson, Desjardins, Pitkanen, Seidenberg, the offense will take care of itself. We need someone who can be on out top PK unit.
Aaron Miller!

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Younger than Aaron Miller, I think.

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I'll take Aaron Miller as long as he won't be looking for more than around $1.7

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If Toronto buys out Nolan I think Ottawa would maybe take a look at him.
I agree. Ottawa would love to have a guy with his leadership in the dressing room. Probably he'd have to sign a Lindros-type contract with a small salary, and bonuses for games played and performance. Depends if Ottawa wants Eaves to play for the Sens in Ottawa or Bingo next year too.

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