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Can any of the teams draft both MacKinnon and Drouin?

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05-03-2013, 10:08 AM
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Can any of the teams draft both MacKinnon and Drouin?

Can Florida, Colorado, Nashville,Tampa or any of the other teams get both of those guys in a move similar to the Sedins in a logical sense.

What do you guys think? any logical scenerio that can happen, and what team would get both of them and who might trade their pick?

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05-03-2013, 10:14 AM
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Can Florida, Colorado, Nashville,Tampa or any of the other teams get both of those guys in a move similar to the Sedins in a logical sense.

What do you guys think? any logical scenerio that can happen, and what team would get both of them and who might trade their pick?
yes...Florida could trade Huberdeau to Tampa in a deal for #3 pick. Teams decide what needs to be added on both sides to have it happen. But it won't happen.

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yes...Florida could trade Huberdeau to Tampa in a deal for #3 pick. Teams decide what needs to be added on both sides to have it happen. But it won't happen.
Same division. No chance that trade happens.

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yes...Florida could trade Huberdeau to Tampa in a deal for #3 pick. Teams decide what needs to be added on both sides to have it happen. But it won't happen.
Value wise, I think that's about the only way it gets done--and I agree it won't happen.

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Can Florida, Colorado, Nashville,Tampa or any of the other teams get both of those guys in a move similar to the Sedins in a logical sense.

What do you guys think? any logical scenerio that can happen, and what team would get both of them and who might trade their pick?
Poile has already said he's gotten a call about the 4th overall pick. We rarely see those top picks moved outright because the price is too high.

That type of deal is even tougher now with a cap.

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It COULD happen, but it will not happen.

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If Calgary or Columbus had a top 3 pick, I think one of them could get it done. Having two extra 1st round picks makes it a lot easier to acquire another high pick.

But looking at who is in the top 3? Nah, I don't see it as realistic. Going by team needs, there's no reason TB or Colorado would be willing to give up the assets necessary to get two forwards when their primary needs are defencemen.

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I agree, Huberdeau to Tampa is the only way I see it happening tbh.

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I agree, Huberdeau to Tampa is the only way I see it happening tbh.
What about Erik Gudbranson?

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Kulikov or Gudbranson
Howden
2014 1st

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#3 overall

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I could see tampa moving the pick for Kulikov +, or Nashville for Huberdeau. Wouldnt surprise me in the least if Tallon pulled off some hocus pocus like that

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Kulikov or Gudbranson
Howden
2014 1st

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#3 overall
I'd do it, it would help both teams. And with Florida going down next year (most likely anyways), that 2014 pick could be McDavid and they get much needed D.

OR

This offseason, Florida could be attracting FA's because of the youngsters, those FA players could propel them into a playoffs. E.i. the 2011 offseason.

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I think the Canucks would be willing to trade both Sedins for the two if that's possible.

Three way deal?

To FLA: Henrik Sedin + Daniel Sedin + Roberto Luongo

To TBL: Jacob Markstrom + Alex Edler

To VAN: Anders Lindback + 2nd overall (FLA) + 3rd overall (TB) + 2014 1st (FLA) + 2nd (TB)

(no this is not 100% serious - the Sedins wouldn't waive to go to FLA)


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I think the Canucks would be willing to trade both Sedins for the two if that's possible.

Three way deal?

To FLA: Henrik Sedin + Daniel Sedin + Roberto Luongo

To TBL: Jacob Markstrom + 1st (VAN) + 2nd (FLA)

To VAN: Anders Lindback + 2nd overall (FLA) + 3rd overall (TB) + 2014 1st (FLA)

(no this is not 100% serious - the Sedins wouldn't waive to go to FLA)
TBL gets nothing for 3rd overall, bad deal for them.

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TBL gets nothing for 3rd overall, bad deal for them.
Adjusted it for you...also, in the original porposal, Markstrom is a big upgrade over Lindback IMO...so your "nothing" is actually quite a bit for me...not to mention the 1st and the 2nd.

Keep Lindback if you want, at this point he's just a fairly expensive backup who Tampa has already half given up on (with the acquisition of Bishop - if Lindback was getting the job done, Bishop wouldn't have been acquired).

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Teams that have the pieces to aquire 2 out of the 3 top picks in the draft

Penguins (Crosby/Malkin)
Edmenton (Big 4)
Panthers (Huberdeau/Markstrom/Kulikov/Bjugstad/Gudbranson)
Tampa (Stamkos)
Avalanche (Duchene, Landeskog)

im sure there are a few more, but there isnt a team out there who is willing to trade what it takes to grab a top 3 pick.

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05-03-2013, 12:59 PM
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Adjusted it for you...also, in the original porposal, Markstrom is a big upgrade over Lindback IMO...so your "nothing" is actually quite a bit for me...not to mention the 1st and the 2nd.

Keep Lindback if you want, at this point he's just a fairly expensive backup who Tampa has already half given up on (with the acquisition of Bishop - if Lindback was getting the job done, Bishop wouldn't have been acquired).
Seriously dude? The slight upgrade from Lindback to Markstrom is worth a 3rd overall pick to you!?


the is not enough to show my dismay

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Seriously dude? The slight upgrade from Lindback to Markstrom is worth a 3rd overall pick to you!?

the is not enough to show my dismay
Markstrom is the #1 goalie prospect in the world.

In terms of value, I don't think Markstrom is that far off from the 3rd overall with a 1st covering that distance.

I don't rate Lindback as worth even a 2nd round pick because I don't think he'll ever be a good starter in the league - I think we disagree a lot about this point, not sure how you rate Markstrom.

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Calgary could possibly but I doubt Feaster would be able to pull it off.

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Markstrom is the #1 goalie prospect in the world.

In terms of value, I don't think Markstrom is that far off from the 3rd overall with a 1st covering that distance.

I don't rate Lindback as worth even a 2nd round pick because I don't think he'll ever be a good starter in the league - I think we disagree a lot about this point, not sure how you rate Markstrom.
Tell you what. Start a trade proposal thread of Markstrom + mid-late first, let's say Markstrom + 20th overall for the 3rd overall, and you tell me how well that goes.

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Tell you what. Start a trade proposal thread of Markstrom + mid-late first, let's say Markstrom + 20th overall for the 3rd overall, and you tell me how well that goes.
It really doesn't matter how it goes. Worse goalies than Markstrom have been drafted in the top 5, Markstrom is a top goalie prospect who's development has gone well. If you want to run a poll, go ahead.

A lot of people around here don't value goalies very highly but that doesn't really matter to me much. I know that teams who don't get good goaltending don't make the playoffs, even if they have a Richard winner and an Art Ross winner on their team.

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IMO it's funny how much it would cost to get a high pick when it cost Burke nothing much to get both Sedins.

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Markstrom is the #1 goalie prospect in the world.

In terms of value
, I don't think Markstrom is that far off from the 3rd overall with a 1st covering that distance.

I don't rate Lindback as worth even a 2nd round pick because I don't think he'll ever be a good starter in the league - I think we disagree a lot about this point, not sure how you rate Markstrom.
Andrei Vasilevskiy.

Seriously, value is not some nebulous thing that applies equally to all teams. TB has no reason whatsoever to give up a blue-chip asset for another top goalie prospect.

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Kulikov or Gudbranson
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#3 overall
I get behind something like this.

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I think the Canucks would be willing to trade both Sedins for the two if that's possible.

Three way deal?

To FLA: Henrik Sedin + Daniel Sedin + Roberto Luongo

To TBL: Jacob Markstrom + Alex Edler

To VAN: Anders Lindback + 2nd overall (FLA) + 3rd overall (TB) + 2014 1st (FLA) + 2nd (TB)

(no this is not 100% serious - the Sedins wouldn't waive to go to FLA)
If you arent serious, why post it

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Seriously dude? The slight upgrade from Lindback to Markstrom is worth a 3rd overall pick to you!?

the is not enough to show my dismay
Its a bit more than a "slight" upgrade between the two goalies.

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I could see tampa moving the pick for Kulikov +, or Nashville for Huberdeau. Wouldnt surprise me in the least if Tallon pulled off some hocus pocus like that
Huberdeau is untouchable. The whole point of Tallon getting the 3rd overall would be to have a future top line consisting of Drouin, MacKinnon, and Huberdeau. Id rather give up Gudbranson over Kulikov in my proposed deal, only because the Panthers have Petrovic in the wings, who can replace Gudbranson's toughness.

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