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05-04-2013, 10:32 PM
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perhaps if Jack Edwards didn't call it as if it were armageddon you guys wouldn't be making such a fuss.

But yea if Ference only got 1 no way Phaneuf gets any.

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05-04-2013, 10:34 PM
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Leaf fans buzzing here like flies to a fresh turd.

Questionable hit.Phaneuf has a past.Shanny hates the Bruins = no fine or suspension
Lucic needs to handle this.
If this happens,back come Leaf fans,like flies to a fresh turd.

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05-04-2013, 10:35 PM
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If Paille's face isn't targeted, there's no way his visor goes into his face. You'd also see his head snap forward quickly, which it never does.

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05-04-2013, 10:36 PM
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Bottom line is: if they don't at least review that hit, nevermind granting a suspension, then the league if corrupt and ****.

/shrug.

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05-04-2013, 10:37 PM
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I should probably go to bed

Phaneuf isn't going to be suspended for this, and I'm totally ok with that. I thought Ference deserved a minor penalty and MAYBE a game upstairs, but this is an entirely different hit since it's shoulder to ::insert contact point here depending on your affiliation:: instead of elbow to head.

I'd rather just let the on ice antics for Boston do some talking for once.

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05-04-2013, 10:38 PM
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To me, it looks like upper-arm/shoulder to head, with an elbow follow through across the head. I'd still say plenty suspend-able based in the Ference criteria.

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05-04-2013, 10:39 PM
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It was a high hit, no doubt.
And there is follow through with the elbow.
But alas, Paille did not profusely bleed to make the NHL spring to action.
In the end, while it would be good to see him in the penalty box, it's better to have Phaneuf on the ice

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05-04-2013, 10:39 PM
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If Paille's face isn't targeted, there's no way his visor goes into his face. You'd also see his head snap forward quickly, which it never does.
This is the most damning evidence that it's shoulder-to-head contact.

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05-04-2013, 10:43 PM
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This is the most damning evidence that it's shoulder-to-head contact.
Same as when Rome drilled Horton in the face. If the principle point of contact was the chest like everyone wanted to believe, Horton's head would've snapped forward. It didn't. Not comparing the hits though, outside of the physics.

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05-04-2013, 10:45 PM
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Same as when Rome drilled Horton in the face. If the principle point of contact was the chest like everyone wanted to believe, Horton's head would've snapped forward. It didn't. Not comparing the hits though, outside of the physics.

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I thought it was a dirty hit and if it had been Looch a call would have been made.

Refs were not good...yet again.

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05-04-2013, 10:46 PM
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A questionable high hit that can be the result of a 1 game suspension. Will it??? I'm not sure, but all I know is, if it isn't and the Bruins think it should have been, expect the B's to go out on Monday and add the fuel to the fire and play like they did in Game 1.

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05-04-2013, 10:47 PM
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It was a high hit, no doubt.
And there is follow through with the elbow.
But alas, Paille did not profusely bleed to make the NHL spring to action.
In the end, while it would be good to see him in the penalty box, it's better to have Phaneuf on the ice
Then you will be happy to know that Phaneuf will be on the ice .

We're thankful that Seidenberg isn't much of a dirty player. Leafs need him on the ice, it's like being happy that Kostka is on the ice but knowing that he's not costing us the game.

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05-04-2013, 10:48 PM
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Really surprised this is being compared to the Ference hit. Dion hit with his shoulder here and then followed through with his forearm, whereas Ference blatantly jerked his elbow out towards Grabovski's head before their bodies made contact.

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05-04-2013, 10:49 PM
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Really surprised this is being compared to the Ference hit. Dion hit with his shoulder here and then followed through with his forearm, whereas Ference blatantly jerked his elbow out towards Grabovski's head before their bodies made contact.
The Ference hit wasn't as bad.

You are looking for trouble here and that is not allowed.

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05-04-2013, 10:52 PM
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This is a penalty but they could have called 5 other penalties on the Leafs just as easily.

It's been a joke all year.

Time to start diving like Kadri and everyone else

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05-04-2013, 10:52 PM
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S'ok leaf fans. Head back to your board, we'll commiserate on ours. We hate that dick Phaneuf, thxkby.

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05-04-2013, 10:52 PM
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Really surprised this is being compared to the Ference hit. Dion hit with his shoulder here and then followed through with his forearm, whereas Ference blatantly jerked his elbow out towards Grabovski's head before their bodies made contact.
Except that at contact, Ference's arm was almost completely tucked to his side. He hit Graobovski in the head with his upper arm and shoulder, which warranted the suspension, but to say he jerked his elbow out is completely inaccurate. His elbow came up after contact, as did Phaneuf's. Ference hit Grabovski mostly in the head as did Phaneuf. It's not a bad comparison.

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05-04-2013, 10:54 PM
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05-04-2013, 10:57 PM
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Except that at contact, Ference's arm was almost completely tucked to his side. He hit Graobovski in the head with his upper arm and shoulder, which warranted the suspension, but to say he jerked his elbow out is completely inaccurate. His elbow came up after contact, as did Phaneuf's. Ference hit Grabovski mostly in the head as did Phaneuf. It's not a bad comparison.
It's moreso the angle I think. Phaneuf's body was basically perpindicular to Paille on the hit, his shoulder makes contact, his elbow comes up, doesn't look as bad to me.

Ference came at Grabo on kind of an off-angle, and I think I should correct myself, it wasn't elbow first with Ference, was more arm first. But because the angle was off I think he put his arm out early to compensate so he could make better contact and from that perspective it just looks worse to me, but maybe not as malicious as I originally thought.

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05-04-2013, 10:58 PM
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How bad could this hit have been? Paille didn't even fall let alone land in a heap on the ice Like Grabo did after the Ference hit. All Paille did was bend over at the waist then stand back up. After watching the replay several times I don't know why there is still a discussion. The discussion surrounding this hit is a whole lot of nothing. I doubt the hit is even reviewed because it isn't really significant.

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05-04-2013, 11:02 PM
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The Ference hit wasn't as bad.

You are looking for trouble here and that is not allowed.
The Ference hit was nothing but elbow to face. It was a guaranteed suspension. This hit was arguably incidental contact to the head on a hit through the body, which Shanahan has explained before is not a suspension or even necessarily a penalty. Then again, that's exactly what Gryba's hit was and he got suspended. But then again Paille wasn't taken off on a stretcher with his face caved in, and we all know that Shanahan's wheel of justice likes one hit where nobody's hurt and dislikes the same one if somebody is. Ference would have been suspended longer if Grabovski's head wasn't made of steel.

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05-04-2013, 11:04 PM
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Except that at contact, Ference's arm was almost completely tucked to his side. He hit Graobovski in the head with his upper arm and shoulder, which warranted the suspension, but to say he jerked his elbow out is completely inaccurate. His elbow came up after contact, as did Phaneuf's. Ference hit Grabovski mostly in the head as did Phaneuf. It's not a bad comparison.
Ference hit Grabovski exclusively in the head. There is a rather large difference.

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05-04-2013, 11:05 PM
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The Ference hit was nothing but elbow to face. It was a guaranteed suspension. This hit was arguably incidental contact to the head on a hit through the body, which Shanahan has explained before is not a suspension or even necessarily a penalty. Then again, that's exactly what Gryba's hit was and he got suspended. But then again Paille wasn't taken off on a stretcher with his face caved in, and we all know that Shanahan's wheel of justice likes one hit where nobody's hurt and dislikes the same one if somebody is. Ference would have been suspended longer if Grabovski's head wasn't made of steel.
Just because Paille doesn't dive to the ice like some of the Leaf's players doesn't mean it wasn't a dirty hit. Danny was bleeding from a gash on his nose. I saw it up close. Paille knows the water is frozen and there should be no diving allowed.

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05-04-2013, 11:12 PM
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Stop it at 0:23.

Shoulder to head, clear headshot. Whether he meant it or not. Judging by his own reaction he didn't. Still a dumb move. If Ferences' was suspend-able, that surely is.

I don't know what some of you are looking at. Don't really care.

As for the guy who said that's text book clean hit... you ever hit me like that, I'd beat you so hard your grandchildren would walk funny.

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05-04-2013, 11:22 PM
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The Ference hit was nothing but elbow to face. It was a guaranteed suspension. This hit was arguably incidental contact to the head on a hit through the body, which Shanahan has explained before is not a suspension or even necessarily a penalty. Then again, that's exactly what Gryba's hit was and he got suspended. But then again Paille wasn't taken off on a stretcher with his face caved in, and we all know that Shanahan's wheel of justice likes one hit where nobody's hurt and dislikes the same one if somebody is. Ference would have been suspended longer if Grabovski's head wasn't made of steel.
As i explained above, no it wasn't. Tonight's hit was mostly head contact. So was Ference's. And according to your explanation of the wheel of justice, since Grabo wasn't injured, why was Ference suspended?

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