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Teams without Cups, Who are the farthest from winning one

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06-13-2013, 11:42 PM
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Teams without Cups, Who are the farthest from winning one

I think its an interesting topic.
These are the teams:
Panthers, Jets, Capitals, Sabres, Senators, Blues, Blue Jackets, Predators, Wild, Coyotes, Sharks, and Canucks.
Senators won it the first year it was awarded. 1926-1927 i think so im not sure if that counts.
So who do you think will continue their drought the longest, or atleast longer than every other team.


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Panthers, Jets, Capitals, Sabres, Senators, Blues, Blue Jackets, Predators, Wild, Coyotes, Sharks, and Canucks.
(The Flames suck most but do have a cup from nearly a quarter century ago.)

The Sharks? ... you jest.

The Caps and Canucks are only a player or two away.

You are right about Columbus and Florida.

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Coyotes are a mess on and off the ice. That's my pick.

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Sabres. Don't forget the Coyotes they are a year off from a Conference Final appearance.

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Vancouver and San Jose will be on top of this list if they fail to perform next year. Blues are the closest.

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Jets, Capitals, Sabres, Sens, Wild, Sharks, and Canucks have no problems in terms of $. They can spend up to the cap even if the cap goes to $80-90 M within a decade. Florida on the other hand cannot nor can CBJ. STL is sorta in between because they have a great young team even if their budget is an issues. Phx are obviously the worst off right now BUT Phx are closer to a cup than Fla/Cbj imo because they will eventually be moved and if it's to Canada then money should be no issue.

I've simplified it here in terms of $ and obviously a team with a lower cap can win a cup but it's unrealistic. The teams at the top nowadays are the ones who can afford to spend the big bucks to sign their RFA's and attract some UFA's otherwise they need tremendous development.

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Canucks. We're cursed. Doesn't matter how close we seem, we'll never win the cup.

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(The Flames suck most but do have a cup from nearly a quarter century ago.)

The Sharks? ... you jest.

The Caps and Canucks are only a player or two away.

You are right about Columbus and Florida.
The Caps are more than a player or two away, they can't even get past the ****ing Rangers.

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Coyotes...they are a complete mess all the way around.

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Panthers.

Dave Maloney is a very solid GM, and the Coyotes have a solid nucleus of players on their team and in the pipelines...they need a blue-chip offensive prospect, though, badly.

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(The Flames suck most but do have a cup from nearly a quarter century ago.)

The Sharks? ... you jest.

The Caps and Canucks are only a player or two away.

You are right about Columbus and Florida.
He wasn't saying the Sharks are at the top of the list for farthest from winning, he just simply listed the teams that haven't won to choose from.

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Phx are obviously the worst off right now BUT Phx are closer to a cup than Fla/Cbj imo because they will eventually be moved and if it's to Canada then money should be no issue.
Sorry pal, ain't happening.

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Panthers.
One year removed from a division championship and taking the eastern champs to double OT of game 7.

But meh, like I give a crap if people just want to look at the standings and go "yes, FLA finished last, therefore they must be a lottery team for the next 10-15 years too", even if it's a global mod.

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Noone, really.

With the right chemistry/management, teams can turn things around in a few years.
Remember the Dead Things era, or when the Hawks were pretty much league doormats? Not so much now? It happened.

Also, I tend to consider teams that haven't won a cup since around the time of the first expansion "Cupless". Yeah, it's a technicality, but If a team's last Cup occurred in the same decade as the moonwalk and there was the limited competetion of only 6-12 teams, well that's a whole different ball of wax than winning with 21-30 other teams.Therefore I generally use the phrase "Modern era" when discussing cups.

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As of the moment that I became a Jets season ticket holder, they became the longest shot to ever get close to the cup.

I also cheer for the Raiders, the Blue Bombers (CFL), the Raptors, the Jays and the Rangers. I consider a .400 winning percentage a banner year!

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Coyotes, Blue Jackets and Panthers

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Panthers.

Dave Maloney is a very solid GM, and the Coyotes have a solid nucleus of players on their team and in the pipelines...they need a blue-chip offensive prospect, though, badly.
yeah, about that... GMDT won a cup building up the current hawks team, and not to mention, florida have the best prospect pool and a solid on-ice product when they arent leading the NHL in man games lost


my best bet for team that's the farest from winning a cup got to be these teams who have been "relevant" for many years but never winning, thus having no blue chip prospects (in general, that is)

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yeah, about that... GMDT won a cup building up the current hawks team, and not to mention, florida have the best prospect pool and a solid on-ice product when they arent leading the NHL in man games lost


my best bet for team that's the farest from winning a cup got to be these teams who have been "relevant" for many years but never winning, thus having no blue chip prospects (in general, that is)
I'd agree. Teams that are past their window but haven't started a rebuild are furthest.

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Canucks are facing a rebuild. Their top line is sagging and older. The second line has a fragile center. The bottom six are in disarray. Getting the offense together will be difficult, considering how Gillis drafts. Players avoid becoming Canucks, this complicates things. Given just those two considerations I would say Vancouver is not in contention and won't be in the foreseeable future, unless Gillis goes.

Gillis admits his team needs a reset but does not have the jam or contacts to accomplish anything. A new GM would make changes that would reduce Gillis to tears. So, things will slide, like last season. The Canucks will make the playoffs but will not compete.

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Jets, Capitals, Sabres, Sens, Wild, Sharks, and Canucks have no problems in terms of $. They can spend up to the cap even if the cap goes to $80-90 M within a decade. Florida on the other hand cannot nor can CBJ. STL is sorta in between because they have a great young team even if their budget is an issues. Phx are obviously the worst off right now BUT Phx are closer to a cup than Fla/Cbj imo because they will eventually be moved and if it's to Canada then money should be no issue.

I've simplified it here in terms of $ and obviously a team with a lower cap can win a cup but it's unrealistic. The teams at the top nowadays are the ones who can afford to spend the big bucks to sign their RFA's and attract some UFA's otherwise they need tremendous development.
Money doesn't always equal winning either. The Rangers, Leafs, Canucks, Flyers, Montreal, Calgary for instance have cash to burn but recent success has eluded all of them.
Today's NHL is a different animal.
GMs and scouts have a much tougher job. Balances the cap is a job in itself

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Phoenix and Columbus.

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We can make predictions based on what teams have on the roster and in the prospect pipeline, but octopi is right - any team can turn it around in three to four years with good drafting and personnel decisions.

If Columbus makes their three first round picks this season really count (either in terms of who they draft or what they get traded for), then they might not be so far away.

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Money doesn't always equal winning either. The Rangers, Leafs, Canucks, Flyers, Montreal, Calgary for instance have cash to burn but recent success has eluded all of them.
Today's NHL is a different animal.
GMs and scouts have a much tougher job. Balances the cap is a job in itself
He's not saying money equals winning, he's saying no money equals no winning.

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