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05-24-2013, 02:29 PM
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how is morrissey not in your top 30
From watching him play - based on what I've read vs. what I've actually seen of him, I'm not "wowed" by his two way play. To me, he's appeared a bit one dimensional and not as defensively aware as he could be.

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From watching him play - based on what I've read vs. what I've actually seen of him, I'm not "wowed" by his two way play. To me, he's appeared a bit one dimensional and not as defensively aware as he could be.
I feel the same way about him as well. I still think he will go in the 1st round, but I'm not really hoping the Flames take him.

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05-24-2013, 04:23 PM
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Morrissey has done awful for me in NHL 13 BeaGM, he's a bust.

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I like what he brings to the table, I know he has put the complete package together as of yet but you can see he has the potential to be a complete dman in the NHL, I think he would be a good grab in the 20ish range.

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05-24-2013, 06:51 PM
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how is morrissey not in your top 30
probably because he has 30 or more people ranked ahead.

#mathlogic

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05-24-2013, 06:57 PM
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probably because he has 30 or more people ranked ahead.

#mathlogic
Thank you I literally just spat beer everywhere.

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05-24-2013, 08:25 PM
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Morrissey actually has one of the best two way games of any defensemen in the draft in my opinion.
The only knock on him is his size and strength. He is very good positionally and is actually quite physical as well.

I really like him. I thought he was the best defensemen in the U18 tournament last month.

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Updated with the Penguins win.

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There seems to be a decent amount of confusion when it comes to the order of the draft picks for teams that are in the post season. So I am going to try to keep this thread updated with each elimination. I will list where the picks sit currently, the highest pick possible for each team and lowest pick possible for all eliminated teams.

Let us start with what we actually know:
  1. Colorado Avalance (Won draft lottery)
  2. Florida Panthers
  3. Tampa Bay Lightning
  4. Nashville Predators
  5. Carolina Hurricanes
  6. Calgary Flames
  7. Edmonton Oilers
  8. Buffalo Sabres
  9. New Jersey Devils (Must forfeit 1st round pick in 2013 or 2014 due to cap circumvention)
  10. Dallas Stars
  11. Philadelphia Flyers
  12. Phoenix Coyotes
  13. Winnipeg Jets
  14. Columbus Blue Jackets
  15. New York Islanders
  16. Minnesota Wild (Traded to Buffalo Sabres)
  17. Ottawa Senators

In the works.
  • Detroit Red Wings
    • Highest - 18
    • Lowest - 30

  • New York Rangers (Traded to Columbus Blue Jackets)
    • Highest - 18
    • Lowest - 30

  • San Jose Sharks
    • Highest - 18
    • Lowest - 30

  • Toronto Maple Leafs
    • Highest - 18
    • Lowest - 21

  • Los Angeles Kings (Traded to Columbus Blue Jackets)
    • Highest - 19
    • Lowest - 30

  • St. Louis Blues (Traded to Calgary Flames)
    • Highest - 20
    • Lowest - 22

  • Boston Bruins (Traded to Dallas Stars if Bruins reach East Finals)
    • Highest - 21
    • Lowest - 30

  • Washington Capitals
    • Highest - 22
    • Lowest - 24

  • Vancouver Canucks
    • Highest - 22
    • Lowest - 24

  • Montreal Canadiens
    • Highest - 23
    • Lowest - 25

  • Anaheim Ducks
    • Highest - 24
    • Lowest - 26

  • Pittsburgh Penguins (Traded to Calgary Flames)
    • Highest - 27
    • Lowest - 30

  • Chicago Blackhawks
    • Highest - 26
    • Lowest - 30

Picks set by playoff achievement.
27 ) Conference Finalist
28 ) Conference Finalist
29 ) Stanley Cup Finalist
30 ) Stanley Cup Champion


Best possible scenario for the St. Louis Blues pick:

If none of Chicago, Pittsburgh or Boston reach the third round, then the St. Louis will draft 19th overall.

Best possible scenario for the Pittsburgh Penguins pick:

If the Penguins are eliminated in round 1 or 2 and Chicago also fails to reach the third round, then the Pittsburgh pick will be 25th overall.


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05-25-2013, 01:22 AM
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Updated with the Penguins win.
Small correction; Pittsburgh's spot won't be higher than 27th. Now that I think about it, wouldn't the best be 28th? EDIT: Assuming Chicago loses.

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05-25-2013, 02:24 AM
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Small correction; Pittsburgh's spot won't be higher than 27th. Now that I think about it, wouldn't the best be 28th? EDIT: Assuming Chicago loses.
****. i was focused on the other picks

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updated again
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There seems to be a decent amount of confusion when it comes to the order of the draft picks for teams that are in the post season. So I am going to try to keep this thread updated with each elimination. I will list where the picks sit currently, the highest pick possible for each team and lowest pick possible for all eliminated teams.

Let us start with what we actually know:
  1. Colorado Avalance (Won draft lottery)
  2. Florida Panthers
  3. Tampa Bay Lightning
  4. Nashville Predators
  5. Carolina Hurricanes
  6. Calgary Flames
  7. Edmonton Oilers
  8. Buffalo Sabres
  9. New Jersey Devils (Must forfeit 1st round pick in 2013 or 2014 due to cap circumvention)
  10. Dallas Stars
  11. Philadelphia Flyers
  12. Phoenix Coyotes
  13. Winnipeg Jets
  14. Columbus Blue Jackets
  15. New York Islanders
  16. Minnesota Wild (Traded to Buffalo Sabres)
  17. Ottawa Senators

In the works.
  • Detroit Red Wings
    • Highest - 18
    • Lowest - 30

  • New York Rangers (Traded to Columbus Blue Jackets)
    • Highest - 18
    • Lowest - 19

  • San Jose Sharks
    • Highest - 19
    • Lowest - 30

  • Toronto Maple Leafs
    • Highest - 19
    • Lowest - 21

  • Los Angeles Kings (Traded to Columbus Blue Jackets)
    • Highest - 20
    • Lowest - 30

  • St. Louis Blues (Traded to Calgary Flames)
    • Highest - 21
    • Lowest - 22

  • Boston Bruins (Traded to Dallas Stars if Bruins reach East Finals)
    • Highest - 27
    • Lowest - 30

  • Washington Capitals
    • Highest - 22
    • Lowest - 24

  • Vancouver Canucks
    • Highest - 22
    • Lowest - 24

  • Montreal Canadiens
    • Highest - 23
    • Lowest - 25

  • Anaheim Ducks
    • Highest - 24
    • Lowest - 26

  • Pittsburgh Penguins (Traded to Calgary Flames)
    • Highest - 27
    • Lowest - 30

  • Chicago Blackhawks
    • Highest - 26
    • Lowest - 30

Picks set by playoff achievement.
27 ) Conference Finalist
28 ) Conference Finalist
29 ) Stanley Cup Finalist
30 ) Stanley Cup Champion


Best possible scenario for the St. Louis Blues pick:

If none of Chicago, Pittsburgh or Boston reach the third round, then the St. Louis will draft 19th overall.

Best possible scenario for the Pittsburgh Penguins pick:

If the Penguins are eliminated in round 1 or 2 and Chicago also fails to reach the third round, then the Pittsburgh pick will be 25th overall.

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05-26-2013, 01:15 AM
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Morrissey has done awful for me in NHL 13 BeaGM, he's a bust.
really hes a beast in nhl 13 man.


Also i draft Lindholm/Monahan, Morissey, Lazar

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05-26-2013, 01:40 AM
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how is morrissey not in your top 30
There are about 40 guys this year who could arguably be in the first round, in that 20-30 range, there are probably about 20 guys who could create a log jam in that area. Generally there's very little cross over in the except in the 25-30 range or when teams go full R-tard (*cough Calgary*) and draft someone completely off the board.

I personally like Morrissey and think that his play at the last tournament was very high tier. I believe he has the tools to become a very solid D-man in the league with some polish.

Still haven't made my list, because I don't know the final rankings of the teams, but I suspect he will be on the list, or perhaps not.

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05-26-2013, 05:15 AM
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Morrissey and Heatherington were Canada's U18's best defencemen by far.

Bowey and Morin played well, but didn't stand out as much. The two mentioned above were so poised and sound.


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updated again
Condition on Bruins' (Stars?) pick can now be removed.

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05-26-2013, 04:10 PM
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Condition on Bruins' (Stars?) pick can now be removed.
and I was doing so well

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05-29-2013, 10:05 PM
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Hawks win. The St. Louis pick will be 22nd.

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Hawks win. The St. Louis pick will be 22nd.
If New Jersey decides to forfeit their pick it would become 21st correct? That wouldn't make much difference but it'd be nice

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If New Jersey decides to forfeit their pick it would become 21st correct? That wouldn't make much difference but it'd be nice
The Devils are keeping the pick this year and forfeit it's first rounder in 2014. Can't see any team not taking a first rounder when they are hosting the draft and a top 10 pick to boot.

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05-30-2013, 12:43 AM
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the first 26 spots are officially determined.

this also means 8 of our 9 draft picks has a set place in the draft.

the Flames will pick
6th
22nd (STL - acquired in Bouwmeester deal)
27th-30th (PGH - acquired in Iginla deal)
67th
97th
135th (CBJ - acquired in Comeau deal)
157th
187th
198th (OTT via CHI - acquired in Henrik Karlsson trade)


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There seems to be a decent amount of confusion when it comes to the order of the draft picks for teams that are in the post season. So I am going to try to keep this thread updated with each elimination. I will list where the picks sit currently, the highest pick possible for each team and lowest pick possible for all eliminated teams.

Let us start with what we actually know:
  1. Colorado Avalance (Won draft lottery)
  2. Florida Panthers
  3. Tampa Bay Lightning
  4. Nashville Predators
  5. Carolina Hurricanes
  6. Calgary Flames
  7. Edmonton Oilers
  8. Buffalo Sabres
  9. New Jersey Devils
  10. Dallas Stars
  11. Philadelphia Flyers
  12. Phoenix Coyotes
  13. Winnipeg Jets
  14. Columbus Blue Jackets
  15. New York Islanders
  16. Minnesota Wild (Traded to Buffalo Sabres)
  17. Ottawa Senators
  18. Detroit Red Wings
  19. New York Rangers (Traded to Columbus Blue Jackets)
  20. San Jose Sharks
  21. Toronto Maple Leafs
  22. St. Louis Blues (Traded to Calgary Flames)
  23. Washington Capitals
  24. Vancouver Canucks
  25. Montreal Canadiens
  26. Anaheim Ducks

In the works.

  • Los Angeles Kings (Traded to Columbus Blue Jackets)
    • Highest - 27
    • Lowest - 30

  • Boston Bruins (Traded to Dallas Stars)
    • Highest - 27
    • Lowest - 30

  • Pittsburgh Penguins (Traded to Calgary Flames)
    • Highest - 27
    • Lowest - 30

  • Chicago Blackhawks
    • Highest - 28
    • Lowest - 30


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05-30-2013, 10:04 AM
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That 2nd rounder to Montreal looks brutal now.

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Abbotsford, re: your most recent update - under LA, you have "Highest - 27 Lowest - 22", they just need to be reversed. Nothing big but I'm OCD about stuff so it stuck out to me.

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That 2nd rounder to Montreal looks brutal now.
Hopefully by next season Ramo doesn't make it look as bad

If Ramo does well and if we were to ever trade him for anything (if one of our other goalies steps up/develops), hopefully we get something of similar value and long term it won't be painful.

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Abbotsford, re: your most recent update - under LA, you have "Highest - 27 Lowest - 22", they just need to be reversed. Nothing big but I'm OCD about stuff so it stuck out to me.
reversed would still be wrong. Highest would be 27th and lowest would be 30th

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If the Penguins win, their pick is either 29 or 30, depending on the outcome of the SCF.

If the Penguins lose and...
a) Chicago loses, their pick is #27
b) Chicago wins, their pick is #28

Go Bruins/Kings!

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