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05-11-2013, 12:18 PM
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Col/Mtl

EDIT: Thread title fail, good start. Mods can you edit it to Col/Mtl?

Colorado and Montreal are two of my favorite teams and I think I have a trade to help out both sides. Yes two of the players didnt have their best playoffs but I would appreciate no flaming etc and actual conversation.

To Colorado
- Raphael Diaz
- David Desharnais
- 2013 CGY 2nd (or MTL 1st if needed)

To Montreal
- Erik Johnson
- Col 4th (or 3rd if its MTL's 1st)

The avalanche need some scoring power and they get two offensive dynamos from the Canadiens. Im not delusional but I know that Desharnais needs to be surrounded by the right supporting cast to be effective but I truly believe that Colorado has that once they trade Statsny. It gives Colorado some young pieces to build around and it gives Montreal the top pairing defenseman they need so badly to play with Subban.

Colorado will trade Statsny and having another center there who can put up 60 points in a season is very desirable, Diaz can easily match if not supersede Johnsons Offensive abilities and they have the right kind of defensemen on the team and in the system to compliment him.

The issue with Diaz for the Canadiens is that we have too many like him, Markov, Subban, Weber, Kaberle (to be bought out), Beaulieu etc all ready or very close to playing in the NHL. We only have Emelin and Gorges as shutdown guys, none of which can cut it in a Top-2 role maybe not even in a Top-4 role on a contender.

Anyways it was a thought I had that could work for both teams, let me know what you think or counter points.

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05-11-2013, 12:19 PM
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Excellent counter point there sir. I guess I forgot to mention that Diaz's pace this season was for 50 points (and thats on second PP duty). Desharnais is a 50-60 point center which dont grow on trees either. Erik Johnson had a pretty terrible season as well so its a fair deal. Your embarrassing to habs fans, our players arent worthless because they didnt play super out of their mind for 5 games. It doesnt erase the hundreds they played before that.

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Not a damn chance. We don't need a soft small center, and I would easily rather have Erik Johnson than Diaz. Keep your players.



Oh, and I love how sure you are we will trade Stastny. Can you please share your inside information?

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Throw in Stastny, too, and I'll think about it. Salary cap is coming down next year, can't be too careful.

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The Avs are set with PMDs in Barrie, Elliot and the soon to be drafted Seth Jones so Diaz isn't really needed. What will be needed is size and tenacity on the left side to complement our PMDs. We will have Siemens who should be ready in a year or so but we could use one more masher.

The Avs are set with their 1C and 2C regardless of the combination that it may be. I would rather the Avs get a traditional 3C, a role not suited for Desharnais.

My hope is that EJ gets traded for a top 10 pick (TB Phi give Sakic a call) so we can draft Nurse or Zadorov.

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05-11-2013, 01:30 PM
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Mol. Bloody Mol. We aren't supposed to talk about the bloody Mol, but there's a bloody Mol winking me in the face. I want to cut it off, chop it up and make guacaMOLe.

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Ask what the Avalanche defence looks like without Johnson in it

Then ask if the Avs make this trade

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Absolutely terrible for the Avs.


OP claims it would be a good trade for both teams yet the Avs get a bottom pairing Dman and an undersized Center for a Top pairing Dman.


I mean we don't even need any more C's at all. Duchene, Stastny, Oreilly. Desharnais would have no purpose at all for the Avs.


Terrible.

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05-11-2013, 02:20 PM
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Hejda-Hunwick
Diaz-Barrie
Zanon-Elliot

Yeah, looks like an awesome defense to me. Good deal for the Avs.

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easily one of the worst i have seen in awhile on here so congrats on that

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Ouchh. Don't think Colorado would do this

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EJ + Avs 5th round pick for Diaz, rights for Ryder, Mtl 1st & prospect winger ?

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EJ + Avs 5th round pick for Diaz, rights for Ryder, Mtl 1st & prospect winger ?
No... We have given up Shattenkirk and Stewart for him.
And now we should trade him for your ... expendable parts..
Never ever my friend.
Price, MaxPac, Galchenyuk, Subban,...
If you want EJ you better offer a piece similar to that (not that it would be fair value but you get the point)..

EJ is not gonna be traded. Still only 25 on a great contract.
Similar to Stastny we need to see what a real coach with decent partners/linemates can get out of them.

@ Other Avs fan: I might consider it for Drouin. But I really don't want to trade EJ. No way I trade him for #7.....

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EJ + Avs 5th round pick for Diaz, rights for Ryder, Mtl 1st & prospect winger ?
No. That's still terrible.


The Avs simply aren't moving EJ. We'll finally get to see how good he can actually be next year with a new coach, and finally getting to play with someone who doesn't suck(A la Hunwick).

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EJ, Stastny, and the other Avs are showing their potential in the WCs. EJ is a very very good defensemen. It's just been tough to play in Colorado these past few years. Something tells me that with a new culture, coach, and mindset EJ is going to be a beast next year.

This proposal just doesn't do it for the Avs. EJ is the best player by far in the deal. Avs won't swap him for quantity.

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I like it for Montreal.

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lol the team with one of the worst defense in the league is going to trade their only legit top 4 dman. WHY?

And for a smallish center which they have tons of lol.

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This will be my last post in this board. Clearly people dont know how to read

Yes two of the players didnt have their best playoffs but I would appreciate no flaming etc and actual conversation.

If you dont like it fine, what would you like?

Believe it or not Diaz is actually a top 4 defensemen and Desharnais is a 60 point center, if you dont want them then MTL will gladly keep them .

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This will be my last post in this board. Clearly people dont know how to read

Yes two of the players didnt have their best playoffs but I would appreciate no flaming etc and actual conversation.

If you dont like it fine, what would you like?

Believe it or not Diaz is actually a top 4 defensemen and Desharnais is a 60 point center, if you dont want them then MTL will gladly keep them .
Thank god...
What do you expect?
How would you react if an Avs fan makes a proposal on this board and offers Stastny and Barrie for Subban?
Would you like it?
There is just nothing to discuss. The proposal was too bad to build upon...

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This will be my last post in this board. Clearly people dont know how to read

Yes two of the players didnt have their best playoffs but I would appreciate no flaming etc and actual conversation.

If you dont like it fine, what would you like?

Believe it or not Diaz is actually a top 4 defensemen and Desharnais is a 60 point center, if you dont want them then MTL will gladly keep them .
Excellent, you keep Desharnais and Diaz. Looks like we've reached an agreement.

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I don't know what's worse, the offer or the OP calling Diaz a 50 point defenseman.

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Pacioretty for Barrie, Malone and a 5th ?

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