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#FireShanny?

View Poll Results: Should Brendan Shanahan be fired?
Yes 139 60.96%
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05-16-2013, 07:17 PM
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#FireShanny?

Guy is inconsistent, and mainly incompetent. He suspends players for hits that were dangerous/borderline, but doesn't suspend players with clear intent to injure?
I get that he's probably a figurehead with no control but suspensions are even more of a joke now than they were previously.

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05-16-2013, 07:26 PM
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I don't think Shanny has absolute control, meaning that someone above him is having a major influence on the suspensions.


How can you say he is inconsistent, even though you mention that he is a figurehead?

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05-16-2013, 07:35 PM
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No, and certainly not for suspending a ******* like Raffi Torres.

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05-16-2013, 07:38 PM
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All this over suspending a piece of garbage like Raffi Torres?

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I think the lack of action on Bourque is far, far worse than suspending Torres.

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05-16-2013, 07:40 PM
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Torres is just one of many, Brown shoulda been suspended on round one but there wasn't even hearing.

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Incompetent sounds like a good enough reason to me even if there wasn't a complete lack of integrity where player safety says they want to crack down on head shots then only crack down on some of them (mainly for political reasons). Yep, who even needs the second reason when the first is good enough?? Who wouldn't love to get paid ridiculously just to show up to work and spew out random stuff with no logic whatsoever?

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05-16-2013, 08:03 PM
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As a player I would be worried if this is suspendable. Does this apply to any player or just Torres?

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Not just Torres, but that's terrible too. If that's a series suspension we'd be seeing AHL'ers leading the playoffs in scoring.

Was it a good play? Not really. Was it a penalty? Debateable. But it was a hockey play.
Almost every game we see a worse play.

If we go based on reputation Matt Cooke should have got 100+ games if this is the standard.

And what really pisses me off is that there are hockey plays that result in injury with suspension, but intent to injure plays (swinging sticks at people's heads, elbows to the head, spears to the groin) aren't suspended.

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05-16-2013, 08:27 PM
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I still don't know why Nash wasn't suspended for his hit to the head on Kopecky. Shanny is extremely inconsistent.

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I believe when you are asking a poll question, it's suppose to be neutral, so as to not influence the answer.

That being said, it doesn't matter who you put in that position, they are essentially just the NHLs puppet

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You could put one of the most respected people in hockey like Gretzky, Howe, Orr, etc, and they'd be hated within a couple of months. There are no "right" decisions with this position since they're all judgement calls. People should realize that and stop complaining.

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I believe when you are asking a poll question, it's suppose to be neutral, so as to not influence the answer.

That being said, it doesn't matter who you put in that position, they are essentially just the NHLs puppet
Care to add anything positive he's done? Besides recording a short explanation? The best thing one can say is he's inconsistent.

If Torres had finished Scuderi like he had the chance to I'd expect 10-20, but when one can point out worse plays almost daily, Gryba got suspended and I forgot who exactly but the guy who broke Van Riemdyk's nose didn't even get a penalty.

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You could put one of the most respected people in hockey like Gretzky, Howe, Orr, etc, and they'd be hated within a couple of months. There are no "right" decisions with this position since they're all judgement calls. People should realize that and stop complaining.
This. None of his decisions are ever going to make everyone 100% happy.

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You could put one of the most respected people in hockey like Gretzky, Howe, Orr, etc, and they'd be hated within a couple of months. There are no "right" decisions with this position since they're all judgement calls. People should realize that and stop complaining.
My main complaint is that plays that are atleast caused by hockey plays are suspended whereas plays that are 100% attempts to injure someone aren't.

I don't think so. Not if the person in question was somewhat consistent. That's my main problem with Shanny in that he changes his opinion drastically on two very similar plays.

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I still don't know why Nash wasn't suspended for his hit to the head on Kopecky. Shanny is extremely inconsistent.
That. That hit was the very definition of charging and a shot to the head but got nothing. IIRC, Shanahan basically gave the same explanation for suspending Torres as not suspending Nash. First point of contact was not the head but it was a headshot and since his name is Rick Nash we're letting it go.

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No.

Whoever they bring in will do just as horrible a job.

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Fighting a losing battle, but what the hell...

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The most important thing to take from all that is the part about the CBA. Shanahan and the department are simply following the guidelines set by the CBA.

The "inconsistency" there's so much complaining about is because of those CBA guidelines. The department has to treat each situation as a unique situation (as in, no comparing one elbow to another) because the game situation the event takes place in is unique, and likely the player's history is unique.

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Yes, and get right of the entire system they have right now. Very self-serving. Get an outside committee to make rulings made up of former players and "experts".

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The most important thing to take from all that is the part about the CBA. Shanahan and the department are simply following the guidelines set by the CBA.

The "inconsistency" there's so much complaining about is because of those CBA guidelines. The department has to treat each situation as a unique situation (as in, no comparing one elbow to another) because the game situation the event takes place in is unique, and likely the player's history is unique.
Well if you take into consideration a player's history you have to watch A LOT of them. One can be dirty and not get suspended/fined because they are given the benefit of the doubt or just miss the call, correct?

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Well if you take into consideration a player's history you have to watch A LOT of them. One can be dirty and not get suspended/fined because they are given the benefit of the doubt or just miss the call, correct?
You do realize there's an entire department, yeah? There have been countless instances were a player may not be called for anything on the ice, but notified/warned after the game about a dirty play.

Just because the general public isn't notified when a player is warned doesn't mean it doesnt happen.

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