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1st COL for 1st TB (and ++)

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05-29-2013, 10:20 AM
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1st COL for 1st TB (and ++)

Since Patrick Roy seems to be considering Drouin as much as Mac and Jones, does anyone could see this:

To COL: TB 1st (3rd overall) + a solid D prospect (Koekkoek) + a young D (Gudas or Aulie)
To TB: COL 1st (1st overall)

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05-29-2013, 10:35 AM
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I'm still thinking Avs are set on taking Jones.

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I'd do it just with Koekkoek probably, can't see TBL fans being too receptive.

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Not happening. We are too thin on D as it is, let alone D prospects.

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This is a trade proposal, not speculation...

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The difference between pick 1 and 3 is not ++ this year. Tampa says no.

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I'd do it just with Koekkoek probably, can't see TBL fans being too receptive.
I could see TB doing it for just Koekkoek without adding more. Gudas and Aulie are both probably going to be with the big club next year and TB doesn't need to lose any more NHL defenders.

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No way.

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I could see TB doing it for just Koekkoek without adding more. Gudas and Aulie are both probably going to be with the big club next year and TB doesn't need to lose any more NHL defenders.
If TB value Jones and MacKinnon much more then Drouin, which is highly possible, they could think the difference in cost could be worth more then Koekkoek, of course it's all speculation

What if instead of Aulie or Gudas, TB was giving up a young F like Dana Tyrell or a goalie prospect like Helenius or Janus?

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Since TB like Nichushkin best, why do they feel any need to trade up?

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Since TB like Nichushkin best, why do they feel any need to trade up?
You really think TB would pass Jones or Mac to pick Nichushkin?

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You really think TB would pass Jones or Mac to pick Nichushkin?
If he's their no. 1 guy, why wouldn't they?

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As COL, I'd do it.

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If he's their no. 1 guy, why wouldn't they?
I doubt this, but if it's really the case, they should trade down a couple spots.

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The difference between pick 1 and 3 is not ++ this year. Tampa says no.
This. If Koekkoek is going the other way, we want Colorado's 2nd coming back.

Col 1st + 2nd

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TBL 1st + Koekkoek

I just don't see enough difference in the top 3 to send too much value to move up a few spots.

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This. If Koekkoek is going the other way, we want Colorado's 2nd coming back.

Col 1st + 2nd

For

TBL 1st + Koekkoek

I just don't see enough difference in the top 3 to send too much value to move up a few spots.
No longer worth it for COL, in my opinion. The way I see it,:

1a. Jones
1b. MacKinnon

3. Drouin

4. Barkov
5. Nichushkin



Everybody else.

If that trade was to move down one spot and take the leftover of Mackinnon/Jones, it would closer.

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Moving up to the top pick is going to cost more....think another 1st, 2 2nds, something. Just the way it is. It's never as cheap as a prospect and certainly WON'T involve the Avs giving BACK draft picks to the acquiring team.

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Moving up to the top pick is going to cost more....think another 1st, 2 2nds, something. Just the way it is. It's never as cheap as a prospect and certainly WON'T involve the Avs giving BACK draft picks to the acquiring team.
Historically your wrong

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Since Patrick Roy seems to be considering Drouin as much as Mac and Jones, does anyone could see this:

To COL: TB 1st (3rd overall) + a solid D prospect (Koekkoek) + a young D (Gudas or Aulie)
To TB: COL 1st (1st overall)

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I think it's a heck of a lot more beneficial for the Avs to have Seth Jones, a potential franchise d-man, than 2 young d-men who aren't worth much of a damn to the present and to the future.

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Moving up to the top pick is going to cost more....think another 1st, 2 2nds, something. Just the way it is. It's never as cheap as a prospect and certainly WON'T involve the Avs giving BACK draft picks to the acquiring team.
Keep in mind that this is specific to COL wanting to draft Drouin.

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Historically your wrong
History also supports what I'm saying. I can pick and choose years if you can.

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Keep in mind that this is specific to COL wanting to draft Drouin.


Not saying it couldn't happen, I just don't see Colorado bending over and giving away the top pick at a bargain bin price when they're in the driver's seat.

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Moving up to the top pick is going to cost more....think another 1st, 2 2nds, something. Just the way it is. It's never as cheap as a prospect and certainly WON'T involve the Avs giving BACK draft picks to the acquiring team.
2003 draft---the last really strong draft class.....

going in FLA #1, PIT #3

The deal

TO FLA: #3 + 2nd round pick+ Mikael Samuelsson
TO PIT: #1 + 3rd round pick

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Moving up to the top pick is going to cost more....think another 1st, 2 2nds, something. Just the way it is. It's never as cheap as a prospect and certainly WON'T involve the Avs giving BACK draft picks to the acquiring team.
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2003 draft---the last really strong draft class.....

going in FLA #1, PIT #3

The deal

TO FLA: #3 + 2nd round pick+ Mikael Samuelsson
TO PIT: #1 + 3rd round pick
Every situation is different. There are no fixed value to a top draft pick. You have to consider which team approach the other team, and the teams involved too.

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This. If Koekkoek is going the other way, we want Colorado's 2nd coming back.

Col 1st + 2nd

For

TBL 1st + Koekkoek

I just don't see enough difference in the top 3 to send too much value to move up a few spots.
Too rich for me, I'd be inclined to send a 3rd or 4th back at max... even then I'm not sure if Koekkoek is worth moving down for unless the Avs are dead-set on moving down for Drouin... I think Jones + Petan > Drouin + Koekkoek for instance...

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