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05-15-2013, 10:11 PM
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Thought we'd revisit.

What would it take to pull Stastny out of Colorado?

He'd fit in with the culture of the team and provide a 1C 1B option down the road with Kadri.

Gunnarsson
Colborne
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for

Stastny


Seeing as how Colorado had Duchene and O'Reilly I made the asking price a little lower.

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They're going to say no to whatever we offer, so there's really no point.

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Gardiner.

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Would you really warrant Gardiner now that Stastny will eventually fall behind Duchene and O'Reilly...

What about a deal around a Top 6 Dmen,Prospect and a center with a smaller pedigree but with a known ability to center in the top 9. i.e. Grabovski/Bozak

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Absolutely no interest in Grabovski's contract and Bozak in an UFA in this summer.

Gardiner.

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No way in hell Stastny is worth Gardiner.

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I wish people would stop pretending Stastny is good.

He's been average at best for 3 years, and Leaf fans still think he can be our #1C, and Avs fans still think he is worth a package worthy of a #1C. Neither are the case.

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No way in hell Stastny is worth Gardiner.
well there's no way in hell you get Stastny to TOR without Gardiner...so can these weekly Stastny to TOR threads just end already

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Gardiner or bust.

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I wish people would stop pretending Stastny is good.

He's been average at best for 3 years, and Leaf fans still think he can be our #1C, and Avs fans still think he is worth a package worthy of a #1C. Neither are the case.
Stop acting like you watch him. You obviously haven't been. He was the most consistent center on our team last year and didn't produce because we had a terrible system.

Here's how a trade works: there has to be a reason for a trade to take place. I know that seems like a dumb think to say, but you guys seem to not get that the status quo is generally preferable to random shakeups. That being said, the Avs aren't going to "lower the asking price because he's third on the depth chart." He's second on the depth chart. He's not going for anything other than a need or perceived value. He's worth more than a combination of lesser forwards.

The Avs have lesser forwards. They need more Stastnys.

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They want Gardiner for a 50 point player who makes 6.6mil, so there is no agreement between the fans.

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Would you really warrant Gardiner now that Stastny will eventually fall behind Duchene and O'Reilly...

What about a deal around a Top 6 Dmen,Prospect and a center with a smaller pedigree but with a known ability to center in the top 9. i.e. Grabovski/Bozak
Like this is the mist ridiculous mind set I have ever seen.


Why the **** would we sell Stastny for cheap just because Duchene and Oreilly are ahead of him in our depth charts(Oreilly is arguable)....


I mean seriously. That would be the worst asset management in history and our GM would be fired.


Ridiculous reasoning for the Avs trading Stastny for cheap.




I wouldn't even be interested in Gardiner at this point for the Avs(And for what its worth Im not sure Stastny alone is worth Gardiner at this point). We have Barrie and Elliott who are both very similar players to Gardiner, and then we have Siemens, EJ, and soon enough Jones that will all make up our D core. We don't have any room for Gardiner and quite frankly we shouldn't make room for him.



Now, as I just minutes ago mentioned in the other Stastny thread(To difficult to find OP?) I personally would probably move Stastny in a package that included the Leafs 1st + Frattin + Bozak's UFA rights. Im not sure the rest of my fellow Avs fans would move him for that package but I personally would.

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05-15-2013, 10:34 PM
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They want Gardiner for a 50 point player who makes 6.6mil, so there is no agreement between the fans.
Yup. But for some reason Leafs fans can't move on. They must have the 50 point player who makes $6.6M.

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Seeing as how Colorado had Duchene and O'Reilly I made the asking price a little lower.


How is that even a valid reasoning?

So because Malkin is a 2C behind Crosby, his value isn't as high as if he were a 1C on different team ???

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Yup. But for some reason Leafs fans can't move on. They must have the 50 point player who makes $6.6M.
And supposedly we're the illogical ones.

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Yup. But for some reason Leafs fans can't move on. They must have the 50 point player who makes $6.6M.
This thread was made by a sense fan, was it not?

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Gardiner (or Rielly)

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No deal to be made here guys.

Avs don't want anyone from us but Gards and no leaf fan would realistically trade Gards for a non-#1C. Defense is our biggest problem, not only are we killing our defensive depth, but we accomplish nothing offensively.

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This thread was made by a sense fan, was it not?
Sens fan with a Karlsson avatar, and profile location in BC.. sounds like a disgruntled 'Nucks fan that we didn't take Luongo off their hands.

I want no part of Stastny.

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Sens fan with a Karlsson avatar, and profile location in BC.. sounds like a disgruntled 'Nucks fan that we didn't take Luongo off their hands.

I want no part of Stastny.

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He's referring to the Leafs as though they were under his ownership.

He's either a Leafs fan or Dave Nonis.


Avs fans don't want to move Stastny, we only want Gardiner.


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There is no way I want Toronto trading Gardiner for Stastny.

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He's referring to the Leafs as though they were under his ownership.

He's either a Leafs fan or Dave Nonis.


Avs fans don't want to move Stastny, we only want Gardiner.


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Get in line.. everyone wants Gardiner.

He's not going anywhere - probably just like Stastny.

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Oh, this again. Good work OP. Brilliant logic as well.


"Seeing as how Colorado had Duchene and O'Reilly I made the asking price a little lower"


I don't even want to know how you think that makes sense...

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Looks like Gardiner is back in fashion again. He's going nowhere, though.

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These are always fun proposals.
Im trying to be realistic here and I can agree that Stastny has not been a Number 1 center for the past few years, however I would like to see what he can do under a competent head coach, if he stays a 55 point center then yeah Id trade him for something like Colborne, Gunnarson and like a 2nd or something. But again Id like to hold onto him.

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