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05-17-2013, 09:28 AM
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Roman Polak to Toronto.

Roman Polak would be an ideal type player for the Maple Leafs. Right-handed defenceman who plays a safe game and can log about 20 minutes a game. One of the strongest players in the NHL, though he does have a history of injuries and doesn't provide much offence.

I think Matt Frattin for Roman Polak swap would be a good deal for both teams.

Blues fans, what do you think/need?

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Just Frattin? As a Leafs fan I'd think we'd need to add more.

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Haha St Louis isn't trading Polak for Matt Frattin.

In fact, St Louis probably isn't trading Roman Polak period.

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Haha St Louis isn't trading Polak for Matt Frattin.

In fact, St Louis probably isn't trading Roman Polak period.
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Just Frattin? As a Leafs fan I'd think we'd need to add more.
Why?

Polak is a defensive defenceman with little-to-no offence. He's capable of playing 18-20 minutes a game and needs to be paired with a puck mover, otherwise he can be completely ineffective and borderline awful. He is valuable due to his size, strength and skating. He's a very capable defensive player but there is a limit to his value. Especially since there is almost no untapped potential.

Frattin is a capable 3rd line winger now and very likely to produce 2nd line RW numbers (50-60 points).

He's also younger than Polak.

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Why?

Polak is a defensive defenceman with little-to-no offence. He's capable of playing 18-20 minutes a game and needs to be paired with a puck mover, otherwise he can be completely ineffective and borderline awful. He is valuable due to his size, strength and skating. He's a very capable defensive player but there is a limit to his value. Especially since there is almost no untapped potential.

Frattin is a capable 3rd line winger now and very likely to produce 2nd line RW numbers (50-60 points).

He's also younger than Polak.
They don't need wingers.

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They don't need wingers.
Not to mention you can't just call Matt Fratting a 60 point player. Call me when he gets there.

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Not to mention you can't just call Matt Fratting a 60 point player. Call me when he gets there.
His career totals are almost halfway there...

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I'd love for the Leafs to target Polak because he would fill our need as a RD who can play physical in the top 4 and at a good cap hit

For the same reasons I don't see St. Louis trading Polak and certainly not for Frattin.

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I'd love for the Leafs to target Polak because he would fill our need as a RD who can play physical in the top 4 and at a good cap hit

For the same reasons I don't see St. Louis trading Polak and certainly not for Frattin.
Until Blues ownership has a hernia after paying all their RFAs. They aren't made of money and if cuts have to be made you can bet it'll be down to Polak, Halak, or Perron being moved. Depth is good, but when you can have a top 4 of Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Jackman, and Bouwmeester and players like Cole and Russel also making a case, that 2.75M dollar player on the 3rd pairing becomes a piece you look to move.

Not saying the value on this trade makes sense, but if a player has to go, I'm moving Polak.

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Until Blues ownership has a hernia after paying all their RFAs. They aren't made of money and if cuts have to be made you can bet it'll be down to Polak, Halak, or Perron being moved. Depth is good, but when you can have a top 4 of Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Jackman, and Bouwmeester and players like Cole and Russel also making a case, that 2.75M dollar player on the 3rd pairing becomes a piece you look to move.

Not saying the value on this trade makes sense, but if a player has to go, I'm moving Polak.
This.

I think it will be one of Jackman or Polak that will be shopped and Frattin certainly is not enough to get Polak.

EDIT: Re-ran the numbers, St. Louis has amazing cap management, even with the additions of players like Bouwmeester. They will be fine cap-wise for the next couple years. Might get tight when Steen, Bouwmeester, Sobotka, Schwartz, Jackman, Halak/Elliot and Tarasenko look for new contracts


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The Blues have no financial issues so just stop with the we will have to trade someone crap.

The Blues need a #1 center if you are not offering that then look elsewhere for your players.

There is a chance Halak is moved because Elliott and Allen make him expendable.

The Blues are very very deep on the wings so trading us a winger is pointless unless it is a proven 30 plus goal scorer over multiple seasons.

The Blues finally have the defense we want we are not going to trade it away now.

To sum it up any trade with the Blues will be a hockey trade not a trade due to financial issues.


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Blues offseason, quick primer:

1) overloaded at wing
2) set on D
3) able to afford everyone
4) only pretty much need a top-line impact player for the offense (we're having an internal debate about playmaker/finisher)
5) likely getting rid of Halak and going with Elliott/Allen OR moving both goaltenders and going with New Guy/Allen. Either way, Doug Armstrong basically said Allen's done with the AHL just the other day.

Polak isn't getting moved in the immediate future. However, there's a player on the horizon who could make him expendable if he develops: Jani Hakanpaa (the huge Finnish defender with EJ-style athleticism). Hakanpaa just hit the AHL at the end of this past season and reports are that he looked good. He's a righty like Polak. So if you want him, wait a couple years and make a real offer*

*LOL not Matt Frattin

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No need for Frattin...Blues need a center and draft picks...

Give us a SIGNED Bozak and a 3rd.

However we could also send a package including Polak for Lupul..

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But guys we OBVIOUSLY have to trade someone and Matt Frattin is such a big upgrade over Oshie, Stewart, Tarasenko


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No need for Frattin...Blues need a center and draft picks...

Give us a SIGNED Bozak and a 3rd.

However we could also send a package including Polak for Lupul..
You must be joking

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Polak
Perron
Halak

for

Gardiner
Kessel




Seriously folks, not sure there's a deal here. Blues are set at D, and not looking to deal Polak (especially for yet another winger) and the only circumstance I see that happening is in a package for a 1C or a highway robbery type deal.

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Until Blues ownership has a hernia after paying all their RFAs. They aren't made of money and if cuts have to be made you can bet it'll be down to Polak, Halak, or Perron being moved. Depth is good, but when you can have a top 4 of Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Jackman, and Bouwmeester and players like Cole and Russel also making a case, that 2.75M dollar player on the 3rd pairing becomes a piece you look to move.

Not saying the value on this trade makes sense, but if a player has to go, I'm moving Polak.
Except Polak at 2.75 as your 5th Dmen isn't at that high of a cap hit.

As other have pointed out St. Louis also wouldn't be looking for wingers like Frattin. If anything they'll look to deal Perron or Stewart (depending on contract demands) then promote Schwartz/Tarasenko who are both on ELCs to higher spots in the lineup.

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You must be joking
Not a great reader are ya?

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Why?

Polak is a defensive defenceman with little-to-no offence. He's capable of playing 18-20 minutes a game and needs to be paired with a puck mover, otherwise he can be completely ineffective and borderline awful. He is valuable due to his size, strength and skating. He's a very capable defensive player but there is a limit to his value. Especially since there is almost no untapped potential.

Frattin is a capable 3rd line winger now and very likely to produce 2nd line RW numbers (50-60 points).

He's also younger than Polak.
Neat player profiles... now spend 5 seconds on team needs and peel you palm from your forehead.

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Frattin is a capable 3rd line winger now and very likely to produce 2nd line RW numbers (50-60 points).
50-60 points is arguably top line winger point totals if you look at all the wingers in the league.

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Matt Frattin wouldn't be playing higher than on our 4th line. Not a good proposal at all.

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Why?

Polak is a defensive defenceman with little-to-no offence. He's capable of playing 18-20 minutes a game and needs to be paired with a puck mover, otherwise he can be completely ineffective and borderline awful. He is valuable due to his size, strength and skating. He's a very capable defensive player but there is a limit to his value. Especially since there is almost no untapped potential.

Frattin is a capable 3rd line winger now and very likely to produce 2nd line RW numbers (50-60 points).

He's also younger than Polak.
He played with Jackman from the trade deadline through the end of the season and managed to play just fine. Not sure where you are getting your info, but it's wrong.

Roman Polak is a defensive D-man who can clear the crease and can skate pretty well, that's who he is. I'd rather not trade him unless he's packaged for a playing making center or a scorer.

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