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05-20-2013, 03:27 PM
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Not all of us think like this, just some
Seems like i have seen more that have thought like that then not.

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05-20-2013, 03:29 PM
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what is this? 4.25 for Bozak ? NO

Kadri, at 3.75? 1st off why is he making less then Bozak? he's MUCH MUCH better.

second PK got less then 3 million and you want to pay Kadri, almost 4 after 1 year? NO

LOVE the Clarkson signing but I think he gets 4.5

Why are you paying a guy you have as the #6 d man nearly 4 million?

Ray Emery? NO
Im Basing Bozak's numbers off what dreger said the leafs may be comfortable paying him.

Bozak gets more because he is UFA, Kadri is about to sign his second contract and i used Matt Duchene and David Krejci's as comparables when they signed their second contracts.

I could see Clarkson giving some type of a home town discount.

Scuderi was supposed to be paired with Dion and Franson with Rielly not sure why it showed up like that.

Emery is a good backup if not him then someone else, not a big deal.

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These threads are the reason I check this forum daily, Toronto fans are the most entertaining

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Seems like i have seen more that have thought like that then not.
I'm sure you have all the while offering nothing of substance ever. Good thing all Wings fans offer the same nothing.

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If by Staal you meant Del Zotto, then sure.

Not a chance any team outside of Carolina trades anything of significance for Staal when they know he's gonna leave as a UFA for Raleigh.
Are you Staal's agent? Are you a Staal?

If not, how do you know what his intentions are? The Sutters never played together. Mikko Koivu doesn't want to play with Saku. For all you know, Marc will sign with Columbus because of all of the former Rangers.

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These threads are the reason I check this forum daily, Toronto fans are the most entertaining
I think more of it has to with the fact there are so many of us, similar to Montreal fans, that there are many more of us with the urge to post these deals.

First off for Toronto is to make a decision on Bozak. Whatever that decision is, has an impact on how we handle Grabo. We could stand pat with these two, or deal grabo to fill a need and try to upgrade via UFA.

We also need to make a decision on some key RFA's, including Kadri and Franson among others. Also, need to figure out Mac's worth and if we want to retain him and at what cost - had a disappointing season but also scored clutch goals in big games.

After all that, we also need address our blueline - getting someone to take pressure off Phaneuf.

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05-20-2013, 03:57 PM
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I'll take a stab at this for the Rangers:




Re-sign:
Hagelin (3 years @ 2 million/season)
Zuccarello (2 years @ 1.25 million/season)
Stepan (5 years @ 4 million/season)
McDonagh (2 years @ 3.5 million/season)
Ferreiro (1 year @ 600k)
Mashinter (1 year @ 750k)
Palmieri (let walk)
Eminger (1 year @ 1 million)

Amnesty Buy-out:
Brad Richards

Trades:
To PHX:
Taylor Pyatt

To NYR:
3rd '13 + 3rd '14


To EDM/COL:
Del Zotto +

To NYR:
Eberle/ROR

UFA Signings:
Nystrom (2 years @ 1.6 million/season)
Streit (2 years @ 4.2 million/season)


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This gives the Rangers a competitive line-up and they still have McIlrath, Fasth, Hrivik, Lindberg and Miller to call up as the season moves along in
case of injuries.
Eberle playing center?

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05-20-2013, 04:08 PM
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for the DRW it will be very simple

Resign
-Brunner 3 years 9 million dollar deal
-Smith 2 years 3.5 million dollar deal(shorter prove to me type contract)
-Kindl 3 years 5.25 million dollar deal
-Nyquist 3 years 3.9 million dollar deal
-Andersson 2 years 2 million dollar deal

Let walk
-White
-Cleary
-Miller
-Filppula

Buyout
-Samuelson
-Quincey

Promote
-Tatar

Free Agency
-Clarkson or Horton or Stalberg or Bickell

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Johan Franzen ($3.955m) / Pavel Datsyuk ($6.700m) / David Clarkson ($4.500m)
Gustav Nyquist ($1.300m) / Henrik Zetterberg ($6.083m) / Justin Abdelkader ($1.800m)
Tomas Tatar ($0.840m) / Darren Helm ($2.125m) / Damien Brunner ($3.000m)
Jordin Tootoo ($1.900m) / Joakim Andersson ($1.000m) / Patrick Eaves ($1.200m)
Todd Bertuzzi ($2.075m) /
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Niklas Kronwall ($4.750m) / Jonathan Ericsson ($3.250m)
Brendan Smith ($1.750m) / Carlo Colaiacovo ($2.500m)
Danny DeKeyser ($1.350m) / Jakub Kindl ($1.750m)
Brian Lashoff ($0.725m) /
GOALTENDERS
Jimmy Howard ($5.292m)
Jonas Gustavsson ($1.500m)
OTHER
Buyout: Mikael Samuelsson ($0.000m)
Buyout: Kyle Quincey ($0.000m)
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I don't see the Wings buying out Quincey so soon after trading a first for him. I wouldn't mind seeing Samuelsson out of town though. I also don't see Emmerton, I would think that they make him very, very much available this offseason.

It wouldn't surprise me if we trade our first round pick again like we have the last two years.

We certainly need to have Nyquist, Tatar, and Andersson up all season with Sheahan, Jurco, and Jarnkrok knocking on the door next year. I think we are at the time frame where we may not see the Wings going for that big free agent splash while relying more on youngsters. I like adding Stalberg's speed the most out of the free agent fits.

We really need to hope theres no chance that Pavel returns to Mother Russia.

I may consider resigning Drew Miller, but that's it for our UFA's.

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05-20-2013, 04:30 PM
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Sign Stephen Weiss 4 yr 20 mill
Sign David Clarkson 4 yr 15 mill
Sign Dustin Penner 2 yr 4 mill


Trade: Kessel, Grabovski, Gunnarsson, to NSH for Shea Weber

JVR Weiss Frattin
Lupul kadri Clarkson
Penner Colborne Kulemin
Komarov McClement Orr

Gardiner Weber
Phaneuf Franson
Fraser Ranger/Blacker/Kostka

Reimer
Scrivens
I would only be interested in clarkson. Pass on Weiss and Penner.

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05-20-2013, 04:31 PM
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whats the deal with NYR fans saying Richards will be bought out? I thought he was good no?

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05-20-2013, 04:36 PM
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It can be. Depends on the return.

People who are dead set on trading him are wrong, because depending on trade offers, it could be more beneficial to keep him.

People who are dead set on keeping him though are also wrong, because depending on trade offers, it could be more beneficial to trade him.

Its like Nonis said, nobody is untouchable, everybody has a price. Now assuming Kessel wants to resign here at a reasonable caphit, do I think its likely that we'll get trade value worth more than what he'll bring to the team, even in the longterm? Probably not. But if a team makes Nonis a really good offer, he has to review it, otherwise he"s not doing his job.


After the past 2 seasons there is no doubt Phil Kessel, is a top RW in the NHL you DON'T let him go

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05-20-2013, 04:37 PM
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I'd rather cross my fingers and hope that Richards+Bieksa get bought out, and sign them to reasonable contracts.

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We don't do any of those lol.

We should try signing Bozak and trading Grabovski for a top 4 D like oh...Bouwmeester.

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Clearly the OP misses being part of the draft lottery.

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whats the deal with NYR fans saying Richards will be bought out? I thought he was good no?
Last year he was. His game has just declined so much, it may have been a lack of conditioning due to the lockout. Now he's on the 4th line with Kreider and Asham who are playing better than him.

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Re-sign:

Blake Wheeler (5.2M)
Bryan Little (4.5M)
Burmistrov (1.6M)
Peluso (665.5k)

Redmond (1M)
Postma (1M)
Kulda (605k)
Clitsome (2.2M)
Bogosian (5.5M)

Montoya (605k)

Acquire:

Weiss (5.5M)
Simmonds (3.975M) + 2nd for Buff (5.2M), Jets retain 2M

Call up:

Trouba (1.827M 1st year ELC)
Scheifele (1.563M 1st year ELC)

Walk:

Wellwood
Hainsey
Miettenen
Tangradi
Santorelli
Meech
Antropov
Gagnon

I could also see Stuart traded
I'm unsure about D pairings


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Flyers:

Ed Snider calls Holmgren into his office and *****es him out for missng the playoffs. In an effort to please his owner Holmgren makes too many knee-jerk panic trades swapping out 5 regulars from this season for new guys he's over paid to get ensuring that team chemesrty is disrupted once again. The Flyers get better in the short term and make the playoffs but the continuation of knee-jerk reactinary patches to holes in the team ensures the Flyers can't win the cup for the next 10 years continuing the string of teams good enough to make the playoffs but not win the cup.

If you have any doubt5s about this scenario just look at how Bobrovsky is doing in goal for CBJ and just watch to see how much better JVR turns out t be than Schenn.

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Flyers:

Ed Snider calls Holmgren into his office and *****es him out for missng the playoffs. In an effort to please his owner Holmgren makes too many knee-jerk panic trades swapping out 5 regulars from this season for new guys he's over paid to get ensuring that team chemesrty is disrupted once again. The Flyers get better in the short term and make the playoffs but the continuation of knee-jerk reactinary patches to holes in the team ensures the Flyers can't win the cup for the next 10 years continuing the string of teams good enough to make the playoffs but not win the cup.

If you have any doubt5s about this scenario just look at how Bobrovsky is doing in goal for CBJ and just watch to see how much better JVR turns out t be than Schenn.

Thought you guys loved Schenn

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I'll say what our plans are and you guess the team! Sound fun? Let's play!

We first need to find an owner that doesn't want to relocate us or intentionally run us into the ground so that he can relocate us a little later down the line. Otherwise, we'll be sent somewhere up north or simply wiped off the face of the earth all together.

Then again, we can always hope the league decides to run us for another year with our annual fifty million dollar player budget. In that case we get to watch our General Manager, Head Coach, and starting goaltender walk out on us. Then we simply need to replace our front office, coaching staff, and entire goaltending situation, all together. And we get to do it with less money than any other team in the NHL. This probably includes trading one of our only star players for some entry level contracts.

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I'll say what our plans are and you guess the team! Sound fun? Let's play!

We first need to find an owner that doesn't want to relocate us or intentionally run us into the ground so that he can relocate us a little later down the line. Otherwise, we'll be sent somewhere up north or simply wiped off the face of the earth all together.

Then again, we can always hope the league decides to run us for another year with our annual fifty million dollar player budget. In that case we get to watch our General Manager, Head Coach, and starting goaltender walk out on us. Then we simply need to replace our front office, coaching staff, and entire goaltending situation, all together. And we get to do it with less money than any other team in the NHL. This probably includes trading one of our only star players for some entry level contracts.

Any guesses yet?
Charlestown Chiefs?

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I'll say what our plans are and you guess the team! Sound fun? Let's play!

We first need to find an owner that doesn't want to relocate us or intentionally run us into the ground so that he can relocate us a little later down the line. Otherwise, we'll be sent somewhere up north or simply wiped off the face of the earth all together.

Then again, we can always hope the league decides to run us for another year with our annual fifty million dollar player budget. In that case we get to watch our General Manager, Head Coach, and starting goaltender walk out on us. Then we simply need to replace our front office, coaching staff, and entire goaltending situation, all together. And we get to do it with less money than any other team in the NHL. This probably includes trading one of our only star players for some entry level contracts.

Any guesses yet?
I know you are a Yotes fan

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Thought you guys loved Schenn
I do like Schenn but it doesn't mean that the trade wasn't still stupid. We didn't NEED a "Luke Schenn", we NEEDED a "Mike Green". Everyone *****ed about how bad Matt Carle was but they got to see just how much worse we were without him and that wasn't an easy thing to do. There were questions surrounding Mike Green after last season and word was that he MAY have been available fo the right price. The Caps had plenty of depth on the blueline and played well back there without him in the lineup. They WANTED help on their top 6 and I think a deal around Green and JVR could have been worked out.


Also, I see too many Flyers fans*****ing about Coburn this season and honestly, WTF did you expect???? Einstein once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Do Flyers fans remember back before we aquired Matt Carle??? We put Coburn in charge of running the 2nd pairing and he failed miserably no matter whom we paired him with. Coburn is one hell of a complimentary dman more than capable of playing on the top pairing but he simp-ly cannot and will not EVER be capable of LEADING even the 2nd pairing. It's simply not his nature, he's not a leader he's a follower. So what inthe hell did th team or fans expect when we asked him to lead the 2nd pairing this season??? It simply doesn't work. Pair him with Mike Green and you'd see one hell of a top pairing but NOOOOOO, we have to trade a current top 6 forward with top line potential for a dman with top end upside of 2nd pairing physical shot blocker and oh, come to think of it that sounds a lot like Nick Grossman.

Sorry about my *****ing but it's just frustrating as hell sometimes. Right after we missed the playoffs in 07 our owner, Mr Ed Snider said on his own freaking TV network that the Flyers were no longer going to trade picks and young payers for quick fixes and aging vets. In less than 5 years we traded away five 1st rnd pick (pr players WE drafted in the 1st rnd but played less than 40 games with us), five 2nd rnd picks and five 3rd rnd picks. We wouldn't have a problem with our defense if we hadn't made those stupid trades. Flat out our owner lied straight to our faces.

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Are you absolutely sure about that (the amnesty buy-out thing)? I ask because there's a thread on the main trade board by caley that mentions these buy-outs and it seems to indicate differently. Even if what you've said here is true, Nonis isn't going to use them in a reckless manner like many Leaf fans are apt to do. He'll be quite careful in their usage.

Regardless of the estimated amount, the mere thought of Regehr signing with Toronto (while Phaneuf is there) makes it a moot point.

In any event, it will be interesting to see what Nonis does this summer. though I don't believe he'll be able to do much.

Too many holes and too little cap space.
Also you do reuse Toronto has 2 mill in buyouts that are coming off next year right? That's kessel a raise right there
If phaneuf signed a long term deal he would be looking at like 6 or stAy at 6.5 at most

Kessel will make between 7.5 and 8.5 probably. The leafs could have paid him 7.4 this year with the buyout space. I'm pretty sure they could find the extra .5 if they had to.

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I do like Schenn but it doesn't mean that the trade wasn't still stupid. We didn't NEED a "Luke Schenn", we NEEDED a "Mike Green". Everyone *****ed about how bad Matt Carle was but they got to see just how much worse we were without him and that wasn't an easy thing to do. There were questions surrounding Mike Green after last season and word was that he MAY have been available fo the right price. The Caps had plenty of depth on the blueline and played well back there without him in the lineup. They WANTED help on their top 6 and I think a deal around Green and JVR could have been worked out.


Also, I see too many Flyers fans*****ing about Coburn this season and honestly, WTF did you expect???? Einstein once defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Do Flyers fans remember back before we aquired Matt Carle??? We put Coburn in charge of running the 2nd pairing and he failed miserably no matter whom we paired him with. Coburn is one hell of a complimentary dman more than capable of playing on the top pairing but he simp-ly cannot and will not EVER be capable of LEADING even the 2nd pairing. It's simply not his nature, he's not a leader he's a follower. So what inthe hell did th team or fans expect when we asked him to lead the 2nd pairing this season??? It simply doesn't work. Pair him with Mike Green and you'd see one hell of a top pairing but NOOOOOO, we have to trade a current top 6 forward with top line potential for a dman with top end upside of 2nd pairing physical shot blocker and oh, come to think of it that sounds a lot like Nick Grossman.

Sorry about my *****ing but it's just frustrating as hell sometimes. Right after we missed the playoffs in 07 our owner, Mr Ed Snider said on his own freaking TV network that the Flyers were no longer going to trade picks and young payers for quick fixes and aging vets. In less than 5 years we traded away five 1st rnd pick (pr players WE drafted in the 1st rnd but played less than 40 games with us), five 2nd rnd picks and five 3rd rnd picks. We wouldn't have a problem with our defense if we hadn't made those stupid trades. Flat out our owner lied straight to our faces.
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