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05-24-2013, 02:32 PM
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It's hard not to make a sexy pick at #3 though. But I'll give you Beaulieu, that was a bit of a gamble.
I'm not sure it was a gamble. His upside is and always has been very high. I was shocked that he feel so far to us, he was undoubtedly BPA where he was picked.

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05-24-2013, 02:35 PM
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I'm not sure it was a gamble. His upside is and always has been very high. I was shocked that he feel so far to us, he was undoubtedly BPA where he was picked.
Maybe gamble was the wrong word. It was a little left of centre for a Timmins pick, is what I meant to say.

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I'm not sure it was a gamble. His upside is and always has been very high. I was shocked that he feel so far to us, he was undoubtedly BPA where he was picked.
Maybe in mock drafts and listings but he was just about on the same level as Klefbom who was rising fast.

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It's hard not to make a sexy pick at #3 though.
Could have taken Reinhart.

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He really slowed down in the second half. It's up to scouts to assess whether that was because he was finally targeted to shutdown, or if he was tired playing so much hockey for the first time.
I've only seen Gauthier on TV a few times but loved him at the U18(only saw 1 game though). He definitely slowed down in reg season, after having 52 pts in 44 games he had only 8pts in his final 18 games. I hope he slips in the draft, the Habs nab him, and he goes on to not only be the player he was in the first 3/4 of the season but even better.

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Maybe gamble was the wrong word. It was a little left of centre for a Timmins pick, is what I meant to say.
Not a Timmins pick is absolutely right. Is he actually going to prison or....?

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[QUOTE=Marc the Habs Fan;66543491]Galchenyuk-Eller-Gauthier down the middle /QUOTE]

Well, since you put it THAT WAY

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If available Gauthier Will be Mtl's pick at 24. I Know for a fact that Audette and Mtl's scouting staff are very high on him. Audette knows him and Dauphin very well (midget AAA connection). I also would not be surprise If Dauphin is their pick at 36.

Personnally my only concern with Gauthier is his commitment to off ice trainng. This kid is huge. If he would train seriously he could become a beast and a good 2nd Line center.
At the U-18 final against the US, Gauthier and Dauphin were very impressive...they would be solid picks at #24 and #36...Steven Santini an American defenceman would be a great pick at #34. I would pick Emile Poirier at #54.

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Gauthier makes me think of Hanzal. He has the size and shutdown ability, but would need to develop his physical game. If so, he would be the kind of player that teams need to win the cup.

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Could have taken Reinhart.
I would of needed a new laptop and a new tv if that would of happened. That would of put me right over the top.

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I can't see Lazar falling that low. I am guessing he is gone by 20
If he is available at 20, we should trade up to get him.

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I would of needed a new laptop and a new tv if that would of happened. That would of put me right over the top.
I think I would've quit life.

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Who is better, Carrier or Poirier?

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Interesting write up about Bogdan Yakimov. Does anybody have any other info on him? For the Habs current needs, I like 'big' I like 'offensive ability' and I like 'good on faceoffs'. This guy seems to have 2/3 and maybe 3/3.

http://thehockeywriters.com/bogdan-y...ospect-profile

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Gauthier makes me think of Hanzal. He has the size and shutdown ability, but would need to develop his physical game. If so, he would be the kind of player that teams need to win the cup.
Hanzal is a fairly physical guy. If I'm not mistaken in a full season he's good for over 120 (or 1.5 hits per game) which is better than a lot of players.

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Interesting write up about Bogdan Yakimov. Does anybody have any other info on him? For the Habs current needs, I like 'big' I like 'offensive ability' and I like 'good on faceoffs'. This guy seems to have 2/3 and maybe 3/3.

http://thehockeywriters.com/bogdan-y...ospect-profile
I asked this and the response was he's pretty much going to be a sleeper pick that has high reward medium-low risk.

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Interesting write up about Bogdan Yakimov. Does anybody have any other info on him? For the Habs current needs, I like 'big' I like 'offensive ability' and I like 'good on faceoffs'. This guy seems to have 2/3 and maybe 3/3.

http://thehockeywriters.com/bogdan-y...ospect-profile
From what I've seen he's incredibly slow.

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From what I've seen he's incredibly slow.
He was slow on big ice. I think he'd be fine on NHL ice. Big stride.

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I was just going through a top 300 draft list and was looking for sleepers that maybe were injured and didn't play a lot and that is when I saw Yakimov. Does anyone know of other sleepers that can be had in later rounds. Guys that didn't play because they were injured or in jail or on another planet?

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Haven't seen that posted here, thought it might interest some people here:

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That's when it occurred to me: a lot of people have tried to figure out what teams should pay when they trade picks, but I haven't seen anything trying to estimate what they actually pay. That is, instead of looking at what the fair price is by looking at how likely a pick is to turn into something useful, I wanted to look at what the market price is by looking at what teams have actually had to give up.
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/201...lue-trading-up

According to the value given to each pick by this guy based on 46 trades (picks for picks only) since 2006, we could package our first two 2nd round picks for #20-21 or #24+#34 for #13-14. Or trade down from #24 to #30 and #52-54

It gives a pretty good idea of what it would cost to move up or down in the draft.

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as choices for 3rd round picks, what order would you rank these guys. Vannelli, Pesce, Hill, Dunn, Moutrey, Sanford, Elie

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as choices for 3rd round picks, what order would you rank these guys. Vannelli, Pesce, Hill, Dunn, Moutrey, Sanford, Elie
Moutrey, Vannelli, Hill, Pesce, Dunn, Elie, Sanford.

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Gauthier makes me think of Hanzal. He has the size and shutdown ability, but would need to develop his physical game. If so, he would be the kind of player that teams need to win the cup.
Hanzal would be our most physical forward.

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Interesting write up about Bogdan Yakimov. Does anybody have any other info on him? For the Habs current needs, I like 'big' I like 'offensive ability' and I like 'good on faceoffs'. This guy seems to have 2/3 and maybe 3/3.

http://thehockeywriters.com/bogdan-y...ospect-profile
I really like him. He reminds me of Latendresse a bit... He's sluggish, but he's unstoppable when he gets Rolling.

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Moutrey, Vannelli, Hill, Pesce, Dunn, Elie, Sanford.
thanks...where would you slot Tambellini

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Who is better, Carrier or Poirier?
I'd take Poirier. Love his game.

And Vanellli is the best prospect in that group that Artie brought up, IMO. Grant has even posted here he could go early in the 2nd.

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Interesting write up about Bogdan Yakimov. Does anybody have any other info on him? For the Habs current needs, I like 'big' I like 'offensive ability' and I like 'good on faceoffs'. This guy seems to have 2/3 and maybe 3/3.

http://thehockeywriters.com/bogdan-y...ospect-profile
I don't see the offensive upside. And drafting a Russian in Russia to play in your bottom six, frankly, seems like a waste of a pick to me.

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