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05-20-2013, 07:27 PM
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Detroit-Edmonton

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05-20-2013, 08:18 PM
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That's awful for Detroit

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Its actually awful for Edmonton.

I know nobody knows who the hell Petry is, and thats fine... but Petry is the best defenceman on the Oilers by a country mile.

Abdelkader is a third liner, a good one perhaps, but Petry is a a second pairing defenceman on every team in the NHL excuse maybe the blues. On many teams, he is a top pairing guy.

Only defenceman on the Oilers to play more than 20 games and he played against the top line of the opposition every night.

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05-20-2013, 08:33 PM
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Sorry it will cost Edmonton way more then Petry to get Abdelkader out of Detroit, Not a happening.

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Its actually awful for Edmonton.

I know nobody knows who the hell Petry is, and thats fine... but Petry is the best defenceman on the Oilers by a country mile.

Abdelkader is a third liner, a good one perhaps, but Petry is a a second pairing defenceman on every team in the NHL excuse maybe the blues. On many teams, he is a top pairing guy.

Only defenceman on the Oilers to play more than 20 games and he played against the top line of the opposition every night.

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I think it's safe to say this is a no from the Oilers.




By the looks of it, the Wings as well.

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Its actually awful for Edmonton.

I know nobody knows who the hell Petry is, and thats fine... but Petry is the best defenceman on the Oilers by a country mile.

Abdelkader is a third liner, a good one perhaps, but Petry is a a second pairing defenceman on every team in the NHL excuse maybe the blues. On many teams, he is a top pairing guy.

Only defenceman on the Oilers to play more than 20 games and he played against the top line of the opposition every night.
He was only playing those minutes bcause nobody else on the oilers can handle it

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Not a chance Edmonton does that.

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I really like Abdelkader but he's not worth more than Petry. Petry is a young up and coming #2 defenseman who has performed adequetly playing top drawer competition, and he's a puck mover. Puck movers who can play quality players are worth alot. Abdelkader is a rare middle 6 **** disturber who has enough skill to play at times in the top 6, that's valuable, but not worth a guy who will possibly spend the next decade at the top of the roster (at worst the 2nd pair). It's not out to lunch as a proposal but it's not all that close either.


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Sorry it will cost Edmonton way more then Petry to get Abdelkader out of Detroit, Not a happening.
Then you have not seen his game, sorry this deal is gonna fail as Detroit needs to add a prospect to make this happen not edmonton

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I think he's pretty serious.

Petry is one of the most underrated d men in the league. Abdelkader wont be anything more than a 15-10 guy in Edm.

This is terrible for EDM.

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det needs top 4 d man and oilers need a top 9 big fwd that plays with a edge. salary is close I see it as a win win

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Also petry will be on the us olympic team. Book it

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Edmonton needs more to move Petry. Its a shame that more people don't watch the Oilers and see this kid play.

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det needs top 4 d man and oilers need a top 9 big fwd that plays with a edge. salary is close I see it as a win win
If they need a top 4 defenseman they should look elsewhere. Petry is bottom pairing on most teams. A lack of defensive depth doesn't mean a guy is a top pairing defenseman. There's a reason the Oilers have been so bad for the past 7 years. They haven't had a top pairing defenseman since Pronger.

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I'd really love to know what your issue with that comment is. Jeff Petry was +1 last year against top competition on one of the worst even strength teams in the league. Last year he was -7 in that role in his first full season. This season he had a slightly negative Corsi Rel and last season a slightly positive Corsi Rel. He also moves the puck alot as his partner is not a strong puck mover. Basically what i'm getting at is he's a quality two way defenseman with the results to back up those claims. What the fellow you quoted said was far from being off base, and if it was you'd think you could have made a rather easy argument proving him wrong (i wonder why you didn't... ).

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Also petry will be on the us olympic team. Book it
So he's better than one of Suter, J.Johnson, E.Johnson, Byfuglien, Carlson, Fowler, Bogosian or Yandle? Not even close. To even further prove my point I'm probably missing at least 2 or 3 who'll be in contention.

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So he's better than one of Suter, J.Johnson, E.Johnson, Byfuglien, Carlson, Fowler, Bogosian or Yandle? Not even close. To even further prove my point I'm probably missing at least 2 or 3 who'll be in contention.
McDonagh is a lock.

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Then you have not seen his game, sorry this deal is gonna fail as Detroit needs to add a prospect to make this happen not edmonton
Yeah right Datsyuk only made Petry look like a High Schooler, Your crazy Petry is not that great seen him play enough to know that all Red Wing Defenseman blow Petry away.

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05-20-2013, 09:50 PM
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If they need a top 4 defenseman they should look elsewhere. Petry is bottom pairing on most teams. A lack of defensive depth doesn't mean a guy is a top pairing defenseman. There's a reason the Oilers have been so bad for the past 7 years. They haven't had a top pairing defenseman since Pronger.
This is the most incorrect statement I've ever seen on this board. While he isn't a legit top pairing d-man, he is a solid second pairing guy on almost every team in the league, and potentially a top pair guy. You are trying to blame Petry, a guy who just played in his 2nd pro season, for the Oilers being awful for the past 7 years? Comical to say the least.

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so he's better than one of suter, j.johnson, e.johnson, byfuglien, carlson, fowler, bogosian or yandle? Not even close. To even further prove my point i'm probably missing at least 2 or 3 who'll be in contention.
jack johnson? Lolololololololol

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Yeah right Datsyuk only made Petry look like a High Schooler, Your crazy Petry is not that great seen him play enough to know that all Red Wing Defenseman blow Petry away.
Datsyuk making a guy look foolish on a few plays makes him a horrible player? This is the human highlight reel Datsyuk, right? If you think all Detroit d-men are better, you haven't seen him play. If you think they all blow him away, you must be insane. The only one I'd say is easily better is Kronwall. Eriksson/Quincey/Smith/White/Colaicovo/Kindl? Some are arguable, others are laughable.

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massive Petry underrating going on here. He's definitely not a top pairing guy on most NHL teams but I agree he's easily a very good 2nd pairing defenseman on any NHL team. Good defensively and knows how to move the puck as well. That, and he's only 25 years old.

I admit I don't watch a lot of Redwings games, but from what I have seen of Abdelkader, I don't see how he is worth that.

Also just saying... Petry is 0.27 PPG and Abdelkader is 0.23 PPG.... I know reading a stat line isn't everything but thats quite telling for comparing a D man to a winger.

Petry offers more offense as a defenseman (or at least as much), and also has made huge improvements over the last 2 years in his defensive game.

Can someone please tell me why the Oilers would even think about this?

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massive Petry underrating going on here. He's definitely not a top pairing guy on most NHL teams but I agree he's easily a very good 2nd pairing defenseman on any NHL team. Good defensively and knows how to move the puck as well. That, and he's only 25 years old.

I admit I don't watch a lot of Redwings games, but from what I have seen of Abdelkader, I don't see how he is worth that.

Also just saying... Petry is 0.27 PPG and Abdelkader is 0.23 PPG.... I know reading a stat line isn't everything but thats quite telling for comparing a D man to a winger.

Petry offers more offense as a defenseman (or at least as much), and also has made huge improvements over the last 2 years in his defensive game.

Can someone please tell me why the Oilers would even think about this?
They wouldn`t.

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Yeah right Datsyuk only made Petry look like a High Schooler, Your crazy Petry is not that great seen him play enough to know that all Red Wing Defenseman blow Petry away.


This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have read. Are you seriously saying that because one of the best offensive players in this post lockout era has beat out Petry before, that Petry isn't good?

You're right, everyone in the NHL is a garbage player because Sidney Crosby can school them. Yes, this is an absolutely sound argument.


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