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06-11-2013, 02:14 AM
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would 7th OA and petry for couts and 11th work?
Oh yeah that sounds real fair. Jeff Petry is just what we're looking for.

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I wonder if the people on the trade boards know how bad we are ripping them here.

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So how exactly woul are we linked to bernier yandle and Ryan??

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So how exactly woul are we linked to bernier yandle and Ryan??
Player on the market? Link him to Philly

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So how exactly are we linked to bernier yandle and Ryan??
Our crazy Uncle Homer?

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Yes! Jeff petry!

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i'm going to say no, I'd say Petry, 7th overall for Coots and our 2nd or 3rd.
I know very little of this Petry character. What type of defender is he? If he is a top four defender and Nischuksen is around at 7 I may consider this. Take Nichsucken and whomever is available on the blueline at 11. If Nischuchken isn't available I don't think I would even consider it though. That's the kind of trade you make on draft day when the Oilers are picking, not one you make this week.

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Player on the market? Link him to Philly
Basically. It's actually transcended into campy reporting.

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Basically. It's actually transcended into campy reporting.
Well, it is also possible that it is true, considering that in the past they have been involved in pretty much every big name player who has bene on the market...

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06-11-2013, 08:10 AM
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So how exactly woul are we linked to bernier yandle and Ryan??
Paul Holmgren is linked to every big-name rumour like Leonardo DiCaprio is linked to the first 9 pages of the SI swimsuit issue. Reputation makes easy copy for lazy writers.

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I know very little of this Petry character. What type of defender is he? If he is a top four defender and Nischuksen is around at 7 I may consider this. Take Nichsucken and whomever is available on the blueline at 11. If Nischuchken isn't available I don't think I would even consider it though. That's the kind of trade you make on draft day when the Oilers are picking, not one you make this week.
Petry's pretty good. He's big, can skate, and has some offensive upside. Not real physical. Top 4 guy.

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Long article on Couturier's development.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...2#.UbcyB5x7xCg

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Over time, I think Couturier's offensive game will grow. He can still become an extremely valuable all-around NHL player even if he only evolves to being an 18-to-22 goal and 45 to 50 point player. The predictions that he could become a Selke Trophy caliber defensive forward are actually right on track considering that he won't even turn 21 until December.

Couturier's prime is still about four seasons away. He's right on schedule for sustained defensive dominance. Offensively, his second season was a lateral or very slightly backward step from his rookie promise, particularly in light of his half-season of top-line and second-line use in the AHL during the NHL lockout. But it really wasn't the offensive disaster some painted it to be. It was a just-turned 20-year-old who had the equivalent of a rough half-season in the offensive zone while primarily performing defensive duties.

As far as the trade rumors go, it certainly stands to reason that other NHL teams ask for Couturier in any deal for a defenseman. In my view, I would be hesitant to trade Couturier one-on-one for most of the defensemen in the NHL and it would take a Norris Trophy caliber player coming back this way to even consider for a moment packaging Couturier (or Brayden Schenn) along with other assets.

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I wonder if the people on the trade boards know how bad we are ripping them here.
Probably going back to their own team's boards and ripping Flyers fans for the price tag we put on a 0.34 ppg player.

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What is this "change of scenery" talk? Couturier has been with the team for 2 years and has performed well under the role he was given.

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06-11-2013, 09:39 AM
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What is this "change of scenery" talk? Couturier has been with the team for 2 years and has performed well under the role he was given.
Most don't watch the games and just base everything off points

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Long article on Couturier's development.

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Bill-...2#.UbcyB5x7xCg
I would like to make this required reading. People really need to understand what sort of defensive talent we are shedding by trading Couturier.

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Probably going back to their own team's boards and ripping Flyers fans for the price tag we put on a 0.34 ppg player.
The 0.34 PPG player who shuts down their best forwards at 20.

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I would like to make this required reading. People really need to understand what sort of defensive talent we are shedding by trading Couturier.
Is this gonna be on the test?

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Is this gonna be on the test?
Yes, right after you list every single goaltender the Flyers have employed since 1993.

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We really should just post this on all the Couturier threads with all of Meltzer's bullet points quoted.

In fact, we shouldn't even respond to the idiots anymore. Instead we should just post that over and over again every time a stupid proposal pops up.

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Dont trade couts, Giroux, Voracek, Simmonds, or either of the schenns. Everyone else should be available for the right deal

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Yes, right after you list every single goaltender the Flyers have employed since 1993.
Do half of them even count? I think Fleury would be an upgrade over some of them

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Do half of them even count? I think Fleury would be an upgrade over some of them
This was such an awesome low blow at the Pens, that I couldn't even handle it. I cracked the hell up.

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The 0.34 PPG player who shuts down their best forwards at 20.
I'm not saying they are right or that we should trade him (I pretty much agree with Meltzer point for point), but his value is probably higher than what his stats show yet lower than what we think it is.

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I'm not saying they are right or that we should trade him (I pretty much agree with Meltzer point for point), but his value is probably higher than what his stats show yet lower than what we think it is.
Ding ding ding ding!

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