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06-05-2013, 11:48 PM
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Jordan Schroeder

So to start I'll mention I'm a coyotes fan. I was curious as to what you think kind of contract Schroeder will command and what would you be willing to accept in a trade for him?

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06-05-2013, 11:49 PM
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So to start I'll mention I'm a coyotes fan. I was curious as to what you think kind of contract Schroeder will command and what would you be willing to accept in a trade for him?
What would we have to add to him to get Rundblad?

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06-05-2013, 11:50 PM
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What would we have to add to him to get Rundblad?
That's what I was thinking too. I wouldn't add too much though.

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Schroeder doesn't have much leverage to demand much money, nor does he have much trade value to get anything worth of value.

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What would we have to add to him to get Rundblad?
Runblad will bust

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06-05-2013, 11:52 PM
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I think he'll get qualified at around 1m for 2 years on a show me contract. He didn't look out of place this year, and should be able to lock down the 3C spot next year. However, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Canucks dealt him and brought in the prototypical 3C with size, however, I'd definitely be disappointed.

I'd give him at least until next year's deadline to show his potential.

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I don't expect him to get more than $1.5M (I'm thinking around $1-1.25M).

I would only trade him for either:
1. A similar aged forward who is bigger
2. A top 6 forward (or Shea Weber ) in a package deal

Edit: I noticed on the Coyotes board that you said you'd give up a 3rd or 2nd round pick for him. That wouldn't get the Canucks interest whatsoever.

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I think he'll get qualified at around 1m for 2 years on a show me contract. He didn't look out of place this year, and should be able to lock down the 3C spot next year. However, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Canucks dealt him and brought in the prototypical 3C with size, however, I'd definitely be disappointed.

I'd give him at least until next year's deadline to show his potential.
Didn't MG figure Hodgson was expendable because we have Schredder ?

I hope we give him time. Which is not what we did with Grabner or Hodgson

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Runblad will bust
Agreed. I want nothing to do with Rundblad.

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What would we have to add to him to get Rundblad?
Likely a 2nd round pick though honestly I think the general coyotes fan would want more for Rundblad. His potential is the problem but he's stuck behind a deep group of defenseman. It would probably have to be part of a more significant deal. Would a 2013 2nd be enough to get him?

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I don't expect him to get more than $1.5M (I'm thinking around $1-1.25M).

I would only trade him for either:
1. A similar aged forward who is bigger
2. A top 6 forward (or Shea Weber ) in a package deal

Edit: I noticed on the Coyotes board that you said you'd give up a 3rd or 2nd round pick for him. That wouldn't get the Canucks interest whatsoever.
Meh. Shea Webers contract isn't anything I want on this team.

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Likely a 2nd round pick though honestly I think the general coyotes fan would want more for Rundblad. His potential is the problem but he's stuck behind a deep group of defenseman. It would probably have to be part of a more significant deal. Would a 2013 2nd be enough to get him?
We don't have a 2nd in 2013.

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Agreed. I want nothing to do with Rundblad.
Thirded.

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Don't want Rundblad at all.

side note- I thought this was a player discussion thread, not a player value thread

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We don't have a 2nd in 2013.
Well that sucks. What are u guys primarily looking for?

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Well that sucks. What are u guys primarily looking for?
Cheap players and high draft picks for our veteran guys on expensive contracts.

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Well that sucks. What are u guys primarily looking for?
Top-6 wingers. But I think Phoenix has a greater need of them than we do. And Schroeder isn't valuable enough to get one anyways.

As said, I think the prudent thing to do is keep him at least until the deadline as a 3C.

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06-06-2013, 12:09 AM
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Well that sucks. What are u guys primarily looking for?
Who would you say is available amidst your young guys?

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Well that sucks. What are u guys primarily looking for?
Top 6 wingers or 3 rd line centre.
The player I'd be most interested in from the Yotes who's realistic to move is Vermette. What would the price on him be?

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I don't think the trade for Rundblad makes sense on our end. We've a good crop of low end defensemen coming up the pipes while our top end (provided we don't trade Edler) is fairly solid with Edler, Hamhuis, Garrison and Bieksa no matter what detractors will claim otherwise.

On the bottom rung we have Corrado and Tanev (provided he signs as a RFA) and will probably pick up a defenseman as a depth signing. Since Rundblad is projected as a high potential prospect at the moment, I'm not sure where he fits in long term especially since I'm betting we're going to re-sign Hamhuis this year.

Gillis has emphasized on getting younger and giving Schroeder, a player with potential who has less than half a season under his belt, playing time is the smarter move unless we're targeting a young center who is a sure upgrade (which I doubt will happen with the center crop so in the free agent market right now). Schroeder is here to stay at least for a year to show he's got game.

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Top 6 wingers or 3 rd line centre.
The player I'd be most interested in from the Yotes who's realistic to move is Vermette. What would the price on him be?
I think Vermette is just too expensive for us next season. We wont have much cap space left to fill in the empty roster spots.

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Agreed. I want nothing to do with Rundblad.
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Really? I'd do a Schroeder-Rundblad deal in a heartbeat.

Rundblad was the 2nd-highest scoring defender in the AHL this year in terms of points/game to Justin Schultz and has been stuck in a system with a head coach who doesn't play young players.

Still needs some defensive work but he's a massively talented young defender and what this team needs more than anything else is an improvement to our breakouts and transition game and he'd be a great fit.

Was not impressed with Schroeder in his stint here last year and don't see where he fits. Too much of a peripheral player for an undersized guy - looks OK on the rush but doesn't get his nose dirty in traffic in contained situations. Not a #3 center and if he isn't that ... he's tradebait.

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Top 6 wingers or 3 rd line centre.
The player I'd be most interested in from the Yotes who's realistic to move is Vermette. What would the price on him be?
Well seeing as we are in need of centers it would be tough. I could see us giving you Vermette for Schroeder and Gaunce, of course we would add to that. What about Vermette, a 2014 4th, and Klesla for Ballard (0.45 million salary retained for 2 years) Gaunce, and Schroeder? That would save you 1 year of 3.75 million and give you a veteran 3c option. We get some center depth and you could buy out booth and Lou if desired. Does that sound acceptable?

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Well seeing as we are in need of centers it would be tough. I could see us giving you Vermette for Schroeder and Gaunce, of course we would add to that. What about Vermette, a 2014 4th, and Klesla for Ballard (0.45 million salary retained for 2 years) Gaunce, and Schroeder? That would save you 1 year of 3.75 million and give you a veteran 3c option. We get some center depth and you could buy out booth and Lou if desired. Does that sound acceptable?
I wouldn't be interested whatsoever.
We cant afford to retain any salary (let alone adding $6.75 mil in Vermette and Klesla), and that 4th round pick in next year's draft does nothing for us.


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Well seeing as we are in need of centers it would be tough. I could see us giving you Vermette for Schroeder and Gaunce, of course we would add to that. What about Vermette, a 2014 4th, and Klesla for Ballard (0.45 million salary retained for 2 years) Gaunce, and Schroeder? That would save you 1 year of 3.75 million and give you a veteran 3c option. We get some center depth and you could buy out booth and Lou if desired. Does that sound acceptable?
It's honestly not bad value, but we can't afford to give up both Gaunce and Schroeder since our C prospect depth is not great.

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