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02-27-2013, 11:23 AM
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CBJ Board realignment discussion II (Jackets officially to the Atlantic Division)

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02-27-2013, 12:36 PM
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What the hell, did they split up the current east teams into Good Teams=Atlantic, Bad Teams=Central?

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Am I the only one who likes being in the tougher division? Yeah it might be tough for a few years. But if it doesn't happen until the 15/16 season all our picks from this year should be about nhl ready and it gives us 2 seasons to prepare our team for the eastern style.
I was under the impression it could/would happen for next season

I prefer a tougher division. It's not like we're in an easy division now.

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I'm surprised that the owners of Eastern conference teams would support a proposal that makes it harder for a team to get to the playoffs.

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I'm surprised that the owners of Eastern conference teams would support a proposal that makes it harder for a team to get to the playoffs.
One extra team than what they have right now. Not sure that is a show stopper.

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The changes would take effect next season.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=657635&cmpid=nhl-twt

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The National Hockey League is proposing a new realignment plan that would see the League go from six divisions to four divisions and introduce a form of divisional playoffs instead of the current conference system in place for the Stanley Cup Playoffs, according to a report by ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun.

The plan was detailed in a memo sent to the League's clubs Tuesday, according to LeBrun.

The plan needs approval from the National Hockey League Players' Association and the League's Board of Governors. If it passes, it would take effect for the 2013-14 regular season.

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02-27-2013, 01:27 PM
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What the hell, did they split up the current east teams into Good Teams=Atlantic, Bad Teams=Central?
Am I the only one who likes being in the tougher division? Yeah it might be tough for a few years. But if it doesn't happen until the 15/16 season all our picks from this year should be about nhl ready and it gives us 2 seasons to prepare our team for the eastern style.

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Am I the only one who likes being in the tougher division?
Nope, you get better by playing better competition.

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Nope, you get better by playing better competition.
The Jackets seem to have defied that logic as the Central division has gotten better over the last few years.

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02-27-2013, 05:13 PM
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To me, realignment isn't about competetive advantage or disadvantage. It's about travel, rivalries, fans, road trips and so forth. The fact of the matter is, the current alignment sucks because there are too many late games against teams few here care about and too much travel than is sensible.

The idea of playing NY, Pitt, Philly isn't scary...it's *awesome* and will help this franchise in many ways, even if it means at first we have to deal with a lot of arena invasions...but even then, more money is never bad...

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It's good for TV ratings. Not sure if rivalries will be better or not? I mean our big 3 now are Detroit, Nashville and Chicago. So instead mix in Pittsburgh, Flyers and Rangers? IMO not much/any of an upgrade. I do like Pittsburgh I got to a Pirates game once/twice a year. If I go to a big city I much prefer Chicago over NYC. Cheap plane flights and more options. Philly vs Nashville? I like the downtown area of Nashville. So I'm ok either way. But I don't see it as a clear upgrade for rivalries going east.
And keep in mind good teams become bad teams. The only 2 constants since our existence in the NHL is Detroit is good (and IMO they are not as good this year) and the CBJ are bad. All other teams seem to rise and fall.

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One extra team than what they have right now. Not sure that is a show stopper.
But it could be if you are not one of the top 3's or the wild cards but still have more points than some of the top 3. Not going to be a frequent occurrence but it could happen.

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To me, realignment isn't about competetive advantage or disadvantage. It's about travel, rivalries, fans, road trips and so forth. The fact of the matter is, the current alignment sucks because there are too many late games against teams few here care about and too much travel than is sensible.

The idea of playing NY, Pitt, Philly isn't scary...it's *awesome* and will help this franchise in many ways, even if it means at first we have to deal with a lot of arena invasions...but even then, more money is never bad...
Agree, the only part of this I still do not like is the playoff format, but that might just be because it is something new.

I can't wait to take a North East road trip.

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02-27-2013, 06:24 PM
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I like the intradivisional playoff aspect. Its just more meaningful to have a playoff battle with a rival. (like Cbus vs. Detroit or Nashville, rather than versus Anaheim.) With the wild cards added to the new proposal, there won't be as many intradivisional matchups, but it will still be more than we have now.

If playoffs were seeded today with the proposed new format, the matchups would be:

Montreal (1st seed) v. Detroit (wild card)
Boston (2) v. Ottawa (3)

Pittsburgh (1) v. Toronto (WC)
New Jersey (2) v. Carolina (3)

Chicago (1) v. Minnesota (WC)
Nashville (2) v. St. Louis (3)

Anaheim (1) v. San Jose (WC)
Vancouver (2) v. Los Angeles (3)

Looks like there would be some intense series.


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Also until CBJ can fill the arena with Jackets fans, the new division is full of out of town fans that will increase attendance

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Time zones will do nothing for tv ratings if we continue to lose. DVR's make it easy to watch the next day, so hopefully the wins will be the next change


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I'm in the minority but I don't like the proposal at all.

I don't like the disparity of playoff chances. And it will be years until expansion.

Expansion is a terrible idea. The NHL doesnt need 15 more defensemen with Mick Commodores (2011-12) skill set being promoted into the league.

It appears that Detroit got a sweetheart deal in this. They are put in a conference with overall lesser opponents. And it makes no sense that a team several hours north of Columbus is in a conference with 2 Florida teams.

I really dont see any issues with being in a conference with teams in the central time zones. The Reds have been in a league with Chicago, St Louis and Milwaukee for years. 8 pm games dont bother me at all. A balanced schedule would minimize the 10 pm starts. But the powers that be (Boston, Philly, etc aint going to sacrifice an extra road trip out west for them for the good of the league).

10 pm starts dont bother me either. Heck I go to 2/3rd to 3/4ths of home games, and dont get home from Nationwide until midnight anyhow. And I am up at 5:30 am to go to work.

I hate losing all the games with the Blues, Blackhawks and Predators. These are also easy travel destinations for me since I live 2 hours west of Nationwide. The closest for me is a 5 hour road trip to Pittsburgh. For me it is 3 hrs to Detroit, 4 hours to Chicago, 6 hours to St Louis, and 6 hours to Nashville. We might all be in the Eastern Time Zone, but travel for me as a fan is worst.

I'm in the minority but that's ok with me. I don't like the move. I would much rather be in the west with Nashville, St Louis and Chicago.

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I'm in the minority but I don't like the proposal at all.

I don't like the disparity of playoff chances. And it will be years until expansion.

Expansion is a terrible idea. The NHL doesnt need 15 more defensemen with Mick Commodores (2011-12) skill set being promoted into the league.

It appears that Detroit got a sweetheart deal in this. They are put in a conference with overall lesser opponents. And it makes no sense that a team several hours north of Columbus is in a conference with 2 Florida teams.

I really dont see any issues with being in a conference with teams in the central time zones. The Reds have been in a league with Chicago, St Louis and Milwaukee for years. 8 pm games dont bother me at all. A balanced schedule would minimize the 10 pm starts. But the powers that be (Boston, Philly, etc aint going to sacrifice an extra road trip out west for them for the good of the league).

10 pm starts dont bother me either. Heck I go to 2/3rd to 3/4ths of home games, and dont get home from Nationwide until midnight anyhow. And I am up at 5:30 am to go to work.

I hate losing all the games with the Blues, Blackhawks and Predators. These are also easy travel destinations for me since I live 2 hours west of Nationwide. The closest for me is a 5 hour road trip to Pittsburgh. For me it is 3 hrs to Detroit, 4 hours to Chicago, 6 hours to St Louis, and 6 hours to Nashville. We might all be in the Eastern Time Zone, but travel for me as a fan is worst.

I'm in the minority but that's ok with me. I don't like the move. I would much rather be in the west with Nashville, St Louis and Chicago.
I agree with you totally. Detroit got a great deal. We got stuck in a division with 4 cap teams. Our playoff chances will drop as we will face a more competitive schedule within this division.

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I agree with you totally. Detroit got a great deal. We got stuck in a division with 4 cap teams. Our playoff chances will drop as we will face a more competitive schedule within this division.
Doesn't matter, we'll only be there for a year or two anyway.

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Doesn't matter, we'll only be there for a year or two anyway.
Yep till they bleed the fans dry, we leave because of the failures and the team moves to Quebec city

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Don't get to envolved with this.... Quebec City and Markham will be in the East....

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Seattle will be the next expansion team...over Toronto 2 and QC

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I agree with you totally. Detroit got a great deal. We got stuck in a division with 4 cap teams. Our playoff chances will drop as we will face a more competitive schedule within this division.
From what I understand the 2 Eastern divisions were set-up to reunite old, long time rivalries. That was all there was to it. Nothing sinister about it. Detroit was going to be placed in the one where they had the most historical rivalries, leaving the CBJ to default into the other division.

I can tell you one thing, though, I will be road tripping to Carolina to watch the CBJ play the Canes every chance that I get.

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Players don't like playoff imbalance. Believe easiest fix is to leave either CBJ or Det in west. PA hasn't completed full player rep review.

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