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View Poll Results: Brad Richards
trade Grabovski for him 54 19.22%
only if the rangers buy him out 172 61.21%
would take him off waivers 34 12.10%
would not take him 64 22.78%
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05-24-2013, 10:58 PM
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No thanks. His skating isn't fast enough. If he fixes that not a problem.

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05-24-2013, 11:37 PM
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Any contract Richards signed wouldn't look good today, even the shorter term one Burke offered.

Kadri might, but not the Kadri we saw to end the season or in the playoffs.

yeah it would tough notching a Cnote of points in the playoffs even if they did play all 28 games




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05-25-2013, 12:57 AM
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Players 30 and older decline quickly and we have our own problems with overpaid,declining fast Grabo and having to let Bozak go as the cap drops,bringing slaries back to reality,see PK Subban. If he was bought out,I might look at 2 years if the price was right. Problem is we are a growing ,young team. I doubt Richards makes that big of an impact,he had Nash and Gaborik as wingers.
Gaborik was quite a bit worse this year than Richards. Richards was only 8 points behind Nash after 46 games and on a pace for about 57 points. He had 11 points the last 6 games of the season. Even a mild hot steak in March would have left him leading the team. He would have had to be peaking every year to earn that ridiculous Rangers contract.

I am not sure what happened with him and Gaborik but I doubt he suddenly got old. He actually wasn't nearly as successful as he was in Dallas with a weaker lineup. Not an ideal fit in New York for whatever reason but this year it was probably due at least in part to not playing elsewhere during the lockout. They would be foolish not to talk to him if NY cuts him loose. 29pts on the pp his last year in Dallas. If there is still some of that left Kessel would get 90pts playing beside him.

I have never been his biggest fan, but if people seriously want someone like Weiss this guy would produce more, and likely do it for less money. A moot point if he isn't bought out and you won't sign anyone for a two year term.

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05-25-2013, 09:36 AM
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I know eh, I mean how could he be a healthy scratch and be so good at the same time.

Offensively, he's become a passenger. Defensively, he can't even cut it on the 4th line for a few minutes a night. He doesn't skate well and plays timid. Do you want that on your team?
So you just dismiss everything he's ever done, because he had a bad year in a shortened season? Logic

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05-25-2013, 10:03 AM
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actually. Drakkor brings up a good point:

Our team is lethal fast for the most part so I don't think it would benefit anyone to bring in a a player who isn't a fast skater. regardless of who he is.

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05-25-2013, 10:23 AM
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Richards slide was sudden, at 33 you have to wonder how much is left. Still at 2 years he would be a weapon on the PP, his contract is actually only to 16-17 season with 3 bogus years on the end.

You bet on a guy with character most of the times, this one is a tough call. A 6.6 cap hit in a 64M system.

Leafs original offer was 7 Per for 6 years, so 6.6 is actually a savings of .4M a season.


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Richards slide was sudden, at 33 you have to wonder how much is left. Still at 2 years he would be a weapon the PP, his contract is actually only to 16-17 season with 3 bogus years on the end.

You bet on a guy with character most of the times, this one is a tough call. A 6.6 cap hit in a 64M system.

Leafs original offer was 7 Per for 6 years, so 6.6 is actually a savings of .4M a season.
so he'd be.... 35/36 (depending on Birthday). in two years. he could play 1st line, still giving us awesome Lupul/Kadri/???

it could just be he hated NYC.

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05-25-2013, 10:40 AM
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so he'd be.... 35/36 (depending on Birthday). in two years. he could play 1st line, still giving us awesome Lupul/Kadri/???

it could just be he hated NYC.
At 6.6 He would have to be the best 1 or 2 fwds on our team, otherwise we run into another Grabo situation. Paying a player that is behind Lupul, Kessel, JVR, Kadri, Bozak, as one of our best players.

The more I think about it, the more this makes less sense. Trading for Richards, would make signing Kessel and Phaneuf very difficult next year. A trade for Grabo, and we still up our cap hit 1.1M. Though Richards is still a better option than Grabo, his contract isn't. 5.5 for 6.6 if Richards bounces back next season, not sure if either player is worth the risk.

Could be 2 buyouts this summer, and then maybe we can go bargain hunting.

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05-25-2013, 10:43 AM
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Ironically he will probably come cheaper than Bozak if he is bought ought and is a UFA. Get it done.

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05-25-2013, 10:58 AM
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No... Unless he wants a deal in the $1.5M - $2M range, forget it.

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At 6.6 He would have to be the best 1 or 2 fwds on our team, otherwise we run into another Grabo situation. Paying a player that is behind Lupul, Kessel, JVR, Kadri, Bozak, as one of our best players.

The more I think about it, the more this makes less sense. Trading for Richards, would make signing Kessel and Phaneuf very difficult next year. A trade for Grabo, and we still up our cap hit 1.1M. Though Richards is still a better option than Grabo, his contract isn't. 5.5 for 6.6 if Richards bounces back next season, not sure if either player is worth the risk.

Could be 2 buyouts this summer, and then maybe we can go bargain hunting.
all buyouts need to be done before UFA season right? (the 5th of July?)

because if that's the case that just changes everything, because I can see some teams burning both buyouts this season - we can go cherry picking, THEN get clarkson [if we need/want him], then talk extensions with Phaneuf/Kessel.

that's probably how it boils down.
and that's not even taking into consideration, Draft Day Deals.

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05-25-2013, 11:22 AM
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I'd sign him 4 mil x 3 years, easily. Buy out or trade Grabovski.

JVR - Richards - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Frattin - Colborne - Kulemin
Orr - McClement - Komarov/D'Amigo

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05-25-2013, 11:24 AM
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No thank you. We don't need Brad Richards. He's not a good player anymore.

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05-25-2013, 11:32 AM
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I'd sign him 4 mil x 3 years, easily. Buy out or trade Grabovski.

JVR - Richards - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Frattin - Colborne - Kulemin
Orr - McClement - Komarov/D'Amigo
He can't skate.

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05-25-2013, 11:33 AM
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There's better, younger options out there.

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05-25-2013, 12:24 PM
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Wouldn't come here when Burke offered a reasonable contract.. Why do we want him now that he has regressed and became the next Luongo?

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all buyouts need to be done before UFA season right? (the 5th of July?)

because if that's the case that just changes everything, because I can see some teams burning both buyouts this season - we can go cherry picking, THEN get clarkson [if we need/want him], then talk extensions with Phaneuf/Kessel.

that's probably how it boils down.
and that's not even taking into consideration, Draft Day Deals.
Correct, the first buyout window comes late June and before UFA season begins in July.

There is a 2nd buyout window late August, however that is based on rules of having players going through NHL arbitration to settle contracts, and a second opportunity for teams to adjust roster for cap reasons thereafter.

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05-25-2013, 02:42 PM
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The only way I would consider Brad Richards is if the Rangers bought him out, because there is no way I can see Dave Nonis agreeing to take on his contract via a trade and I think all other GM's would think the same thing.

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There's better, younger options out there.
I'll take him, but if he wants too much, I'm with you.

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This thread is hilarious.

And about the skating, are you guys forgetting we have Barb?

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This thread is hilarious.

And about the skating, are you guys forgetting we have Barb?
Are you forgetting that he makes enough that if he was willing to make the commitment to improve it he could afford it.

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Phil Kessel would score 40+ goals and 100 points with Brad Richards as his center.

He would be a big upgrade on Bozak.
yeah, so would Gaborik, right. And Nash-Richards-Gaborik was going to be one of the best lines in the NHL, too.

richards just isnt what he used to be. at this point, Kessel would probably be the one elevating Richards, not the other way around

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Brad Richards isn't good anymore folks.

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I'd take a chance on Paul Stastny instead. He's still fairly young and I've seen a few games this year that shows me he's a very good playmaker that needs to play with good wingers. He's also a very dependable defensive player.

A JvR-Stastny-Kessel line would be great.

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