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06-14-2013, 12:52 PM
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Taking all bets about who starts on Saturday.

What I think will happen - Zagurski DFA'd, Andy Oliver called up and starts, Oliver sent back down shortly after and replaced with Duke Welker.
What I want to happen - Zagurski DFA'd, Welker re-called, start one of the long men and hope that a combination of Wilson, Morris, and Welker can give you 7 innings.

The options are so limited that it hurts. There are only 3 pitchers on the Pirates 40 man roster right now that aren't on the big roster that are healthy - Oliver, Welker, and Stolmy Pimentel. Pimentel is in AA and is getting hit around of late so he isn't an option. Oliver has been walking everybody his past few starts and is only an option because of circumstance (due to start for Indy tonight and is on the 40 man roster). Welker isn't a starter, but he has pitched 33.2 innings in 23 appearances so he is a candidate to give you 2 innings.


There aren't even any good candidates to sign to the 40 man roster temporarily. Brandon Cumpton is scheduled to start for Indianapolis tomorrow, but he only has 10 starts at AAA under his belt and isn't a high-level prospect...to say nothing of him burning a 40 man roster spot for a single start when he doesn't need to be added there until the end of next season (not Rule 5 eligible yet). Everyone else is hurt. McPherson and Irwin are hurt, McDonald and Gomez are on rehabilitation stints, and even the first option for the bullpen, Vic Black, is on the 7 Day DL down there.

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06-14-2013, 01:25 PM
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Yeah, it seems like it's going to be Oliver + fingers crossed.

The Dodgers have been an exciting team lately, though some suspensions might be forthcoming because of the brawl the other night (including possibly Puig). But the suspensions might not come til after our series.

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06-14-2013, 01:35 PM
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Oliver has a ton of promise and I want him to get a couple starts at some point this year...just, you know, not right now when he can't find the strike zone to save his life.

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06-14-2013, 02:00 PM
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Uh... so Crumpton it is. That's a surprise and I don't want to read too much into it, but maybe one or more of the injuries are more serious than we think. Not sure why they would go through all the trouble of putting him on the 40-man if it's only for one game. Unless they are just assuming that Crumpton is the best bet to get through as many innings as possible and keep the bullpen fresh etc.

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I was wrong...the list I was reading hadn't been updated since 2010, which was the year Cumpton was drafted.

Cumpton is Rule 5 eligible after this season, so he would have been added at the end of the season regardless.

That takes the sting off of this a lot easier. I still don't expect Cumpton to stick as a starter in the Majors, but hey at least we're not wasting a 40 man roster spot on a guy who doesn't need to be added for 17 months. Cumpton could be a bottom of the rotation guy, but with our pitching depth throughout the system the only way he's likely to start (m)any games is if it's a situation like this when 4 or 5 guys ahead of him are hurt. With a fastball that hits 96 he should be able to make it as a middle reliever, though. His numbers in the minors have been freakishly consistent since being drafted.


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06-14-2013, 02:12 PM
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Ah, that's somewhat of a relief and makes more sense then. Probably just going with the hottest available option. He went 7.1 last time out, and Oliver is the only non-long man option, and as you said, he's walking everyone.

No Marte again tonight.

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06-14-2013, 05:08 PM
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I think tonight's another big test for Locke. Among the pitchers who are going to be starting over the next week and a half, he's probably been the most consistent and the best this season, and we'll need him to continue that to set the tone going forward. 2/3 is definitely doable against the Dodgers, and hopefully we can at least scratch a 2-2 split against the Reds next week in order to keep our head above water while we wait for Burnett and Wandy to get healthy.

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06-14-2013, 05:32 PM
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#Pirates Burnett is wearing walking boot, says he has "grade 1 tear" in calf and cannot put weight on leg: "Hope it's not six-week thing."
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More starter roulette to come depending on the guys on the DL.

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06-14-2013, 05:49 PM
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Yikes, I saw that the boot was on, but not the "can't put weight on it" part. Wandy shouldn't be out very long, though. So we'll have Wandy-Locke-Liriano-Morton-Cole soon enough.

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06-14-2013, 06:10 PM
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that doesnt sound good at all.

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Looks like a sell out tonight.

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There is no reason why Clint Barmes should play more than once or twice a week anymore.

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There is no reason why Clint Barmes should play more than once or twice a week anymore.
It's ridiculous.

But that's Hurdle's boy. He brought him here. Guess can't admit he sucks.

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NICE!!

Cutch drives in two!!!

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06-14-2013, 07:00 PM
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I don't blame Cutch for the gamble there. The offense has been so inconsistent lately that he might as well take the chance that Ramirez screws up the throw.

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06-14-2013, 07:04 PM
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WOW, That ball came back off the wall quickly.

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Was just thinking that Locke is looking much more solid with his control tonight, and then he gets jobbed out of a strikeout by the ump and walks Punto.

Edit: Barmes buying himself some credit back there. What a play!

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06-14-2013, 07:16 PM
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OK, the fact that it was Barmes aside, as I know he has got glove...but I think I missed something there. That ball was hit right at Barmes. Right at him. Sweet pick, but Greg Brown went nuts.

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That's a legit hit by Locke. Nice!

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Locke very impressive so far. If he gets through the seventh easily, I hope they let him try for 8. Hurdle's been extremely quick with the hook on him, even when he's cruising, but he hasn't thrown a lot of pitches at all tonight and if he gets through the seventh, it will be the bottom of the order for the Dodgers in the eighth.

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**** Clint Hurdle for this. This is so, so, so, so, so, so dumb.

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I don't get it.

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Melancon does need to get some work, but nobody is going to go to jail if Melancon pitches the ninth inning and gets a save.

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Tons of great D in this game.

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