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biggest bust of this years free agent crop.

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05-27-2013, 05:26 PM
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Bozak or Bickell, I think.

Two good players I'd take on my team, but there's a good chance they're both going to end up with ugly contracts.

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05-27-2013, 05:27 PM
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This has to be the worst year for UFA, at least in recent memory. There's just nothing at the top at all.

Out of the guys who are looking like the 'sought after' commodities...I could easily see Clarkson ending up with a stupidly huge contract from a team desperate for 'toughness' to play with their 'skill'. Could be terrible.

Mike Smith could easily end up like Bryzgalov if some team pays him huge dollars long term, without an insulating 'system' to play behind.


There's just so few 'top-end' players available though, that there could be a ton of terrible deals handed out in bidding wars, despite the cap actually going down dramatically this year.

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05-27-2013, 05:50 PM
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IMO it's going to be Clarkson.

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05-27-2013, 06:02 PM
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Brad "Big Bust"Boyes. Some team will give this guy a contract for a few million for a few years.
Please don't be my team. ( islanders )
A power play specialist without a special talent. Yes it's confusing. Can't skate,doesnt hit,no speed,
Refuses to carry the puck. For every good pass there is a very bad pass so this is a wash. Decent wrist shot. Just like Madoff he takes the money, gives the perception of value to your investment, but ultimately disapoints and by the time you realize this it is to late to do anything about it. Good luck Brad however you are not much of a hockey player.

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05-27-2013, 06:05 PM
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Whoever gives Weiss a long-term contract. He was having a bad season and had a wrist injury. Don't think he will ever be the same.
Agree. People tend to forgive a bad season when there is an injury involved, a bad practice. I am actually fearful that Gillis will perceive this situation wrongly and sign Weiss. Canucks imagine "moneyball" can translate into hockey, but hockey isn't like baseball.

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05-27-2013, 06:06 PM
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Basically every player on this list. None of them should be payed more than 4 mil, maybe Horton being the exception.

I have a gut feeling a few of them will be heading to the Oilers.

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05-27-2013, 06:08 PM
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Clarkson is going to be paid more than he's worth , probably by a million and a half.

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05-27-2013, 06:37 PM
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Brad "Big Bust"Boyes. Some team will give this guy a contract for a few million for a few years.
Please don't be my team. ( islanders )
A power play specialist without a special talent. Yes it's confusing. Can't skate,doesnt hit,no speed,
Refuses to carry the puck. For every good pass there is a very bad pass so this is a wash. Decent wrist shot. Just like Madoff he takes the money, gives the perception of value to your investment, but ultimately disapoints and by the time you realize this it is to late to do anything about it. Good luck Brad however you are not much of a hockey player.
He signed a one year deal worth 1 million. Snow wasn't tricked into believing he's a better player than advertised. You sound so bitter like Boyes stepped on your cat.
No he isn't coming back. Ottawa will sign him for cheap. I could see the Rangers giving him a chance as their Pp is awful.

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05-27-2013, 06:55 PM
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David Clarkson
- Past 3 seasons he has averaged 35 points/season.
- People have him penciled in for 5 million per.
- I know he brings more to the table than points, but at 5 mil... you better produce..
Agree completely. In his first 4 years his high in goals was 17. Then, last year aftaer a typical start, he exploded for 28 goals in his last 70 games and had 7 in 10 games this year. After that, just 8 in 38 games, a pace for 17.

Clarkson basically had one good 80 game stretch and is going to make a lot of money from it. He is a 15-20 goal 3rd line winger who is going to get paid like a 30 goal scorer.

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05-27-2013, 07:03 PM
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Smith and Dupuis.

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05-27-2013, 07:25 PM
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He signed a one year deal worth 1 million. Snow wasn't tricked into believing he's a better player than advertised. You sound so bitter like Boyes stepped on your cat.
No he isn't coming back. Ottawa will sign him for cheap. I could see the Rangers giving him a chance as their Pp is awful.
Bitter not at all. After a year with Rolston basically stealing the money then this gonna be Rolston named Boyes its frustrating. This team left everything it had on the ice to finish the season
And watching Boyes just figure skating around the ice taking minutes away from someone who wanted to win was frustrating. Bitter no. I still believe that he is not a very good hockey player in any capacity. Roster spots are to valuable and every one counts for a playoff team.

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05-27-2013, 07:30 PM
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Mike Ribeiro.

He's got great hands and I'm a fan of his play, but I have a feeling he gets 5M per or more and then doesn't do so well with his new team.

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05-27-2013, 08:15 PM
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Mike Ribeiro.

He's got great hands and I'm a fan of his play, but I have a feeling he gets 5M per or more and then doesn't do so well with his new team.
If Ribero is smart, he will sign for less money for a team that totally suits his style of play.

Detroit for 4m a year for a couple years strikes me as a good fit for him.

I agree tho, if he takes the money and goes to a team trying to forcefeed him into a style that doesnt work, he will suck.

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05-27-2013, 10:38 PM
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I think Bozak could be an ok 3rd line centre. Not a great one. But at least he can play on the PK reasonably well (unlike Grabovski who played in that shutdown/checking role this season).

So if we signed him to like a 3M deal, I'd be cool with it. Especially due to the Kessel connection.

But his contract demands are absurd. It'd be like signing Chris Kelly to a 5 year 25 million $ deal or something like that.
Man there is no love for Bozak... at 5 million he's seeking too much but at say around 3 million - 3.5 there is nothing wrong with those numbers imo he'll be a leaf next season and probably be the 2nd line center and I have no problems with that.

As for biggest busts of next seasons free agency yea I have to say Clarkson, guy is good but there is no way guys like him should be making 5 million + a season. 3 million is the most I would be willing to go for him, but we all know it's going to be much more then that and you know there is going to be people out there who will pay him 5 million with out blinking an eye.

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Mike Ribeiro.

He's got great hands and I'm a fan of his play, but I have a feeling he gets 5M per or more and then doesn't do so well with his new team.
To go along with that he wants a longer term contract (4-5 years) at that price which is absurd

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05-27-2013, 10:55 PM
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I'm going to go with Regehr. He's been a favorite of mine but at the same time he might be another komi
Only a Leaf fan could call Robyn frickin Regehr "another Komi".

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Whoever the Rangers sign.

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Whoever the Rangers sign.
This. It'll make so much sense if they sign Clarkson.

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Basically every player on this list. None of them should be payed more than 4 mil, maybe Horton being the exception.

I have a gut feeling a few of them will be heading to the Oilers.
I think the Oil will be all in on Bickell. If he's willing to accept shorter term, I'd go 3 years, 10 mil, front loaded. 4.5, 3.25, 2.25, that way if he doesn't quite live up to his contract he may still have some trade value in the final year to a cap floor team. I'm not worried about him though, I think he'll be worth every penny.

I'd say Bozak or Streit will be the worst bang for buck. Sadly the Oil might be in on Streit as well, which scares me to think of what price.

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05-27-2013, 11:11 PM
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Bozak is apparently seeking a multi-year deal for 5M+.

If anybody signs him to that, they'll immediately regret it. The guy has been getting top minutes, top PP minutes, and playing with Kessel/JVR/Lupul for the past few years.

He's yet to breach 50 points and is 27 years old. Keep in mind that Matt Stajan was able to put up 55 and 57 points in his final two seasons here, that first 55 point season was after Sundin had left but before Kessel arrived (second one is split with Calgary).

Bozak will not get top line minutes / top PP minutes anywhere else in the league except for maybe Columbus. So presumably he'll be playing with less talented linemates, with less ice-time, and less power play time. The guy will put up like ~35-40 points in that type of scenario.

Some Leaf fans like to pretend that he has "chemistry" with Kessel... but that's not the case at all. Just a couple quick things to consider.

1) Bozak had 0.886 assists/60 minutes of play (5 on 5). Behind offensive juggernauts such as Carl Gunnarson and Jay McClement who play defensive roles with non-offensive linemates.

2) Only ~40% of those assists were primary assists. As a comparison, ~83% of Kadri's and ~71% of Kessels assists were primary assists (/60 minutes 5 on 5). These are the types of guys that "create" offence, Bozak just kinda happens to be there and pick up points by accident. Keep in mind that the people who are "pro-Bozak" like to refer to him as a playmaker...

3) He's not a goal scorer either. He's never breached 20 goals, despite playing with Kessel who's a very good playmaker.

4) He's not particularly big or physical, so don't expect him to bring that to the table as part of some "intangibles" package. He's also only decent defensively.
This.

It'll be like the Zajac signing but worse.

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05-28-2013, 02:30 AM
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Only a Leaf fan could call Robyn frickin Regehr "another Komi".
Hey Regehr has been a personal favorite of mine for YEARS so was Komi before he signed in Toronto then he proceeded to suck.

I love Regehr and want him on the Leafs just worried he'd suck to.

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Dustin Penner.

Someone will sign him because of his size and cup rings. He'll disappoint.
I don't mind him replacing Bertuzzi. He would be bigger, younger and faster.

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A lot of this is relative to the contract they are signed for.

If the Ranger resigned Clowe for something cheap like $2.5M-$3M then it would be fine. If they sign him for $6M then he would be considered a bust.

Roy is another example...able to sign him for a short term 2-3 uys at around a $3M per is very different than signing him for $5M+
Why on earth would NYR sign him for $6M/year. I know we overpay, but jeeez...

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Clarkson, but because of his price, not his play.

He will still be a 15-20 goal guy who can fight, but anyone who pays over 3.5M is going to have headaches.

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Pretty much all of then are good candidates. Terrible year for UFA's.
This. A better question may be which one won't bust.

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