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Marian Hossa As A Free Agent This Summer

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05-28-2013, 09:45 PM
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Would love to see him and Sid together again!!!

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Hossa will retire as a Blackhawk when his contract runs out.

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If he became available, what team wouldn't be interested in him? Love to see him on the Leafs: his skill, his work ethic, his leadership--he's quite a package and a young team would benefit immensely from what he can bring to the table.

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05-28-2013, 11:14 PM
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Maybe the Oilers would try again!

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05-29-2013, 11:35 AM
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I think kypreos read this thread after waching hockey central today.

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05-29-2013, 01:04 PM
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Hossa will retire in Chicago whenever he is ready and the Hawks will face no penalty whatsoever. They will just like LTIR him like Pronger, Savard and others.
These guys have real, legit, life altering injuries. You cant just LTIR whoever you want.

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05-29-2013, 01:48 PM
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You sure about that?
Yep. There is no restriction on regular buyouts signing with or being re-acquired by the team that bought them out. Of course if the league thought something shady was going on with a team buying out and re-signing a player they could reject the contract registration or penalize the team for circumvention.

Players bought out under the compliance buyout terms of the new CBA cannot re-join the buying out team during the season starting in the calendar year they were bought out. i.e. a player bought out with the compliance option in 2013 cannot rejoin that team until after the 2013-2014 season and a player bought out in 2014 cannot be re-acquired until after the 2014-2015 season.

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05-29-2013, 01:59 PM
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1)Hossa would never make it through waivers for a buyout.

2) The Hawks would just send him home,keep him on the roster, take the $5 mil cap hit and pay him rather then take a huge penalty cap hit.

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05-29-2013, 02:37 PM
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Would look pretty sweet alongside Spezza...

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05-29-2013, 02:41 PM
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1)Hossa would never make it through waivers for a buyout.

2) The Hawks would just send him home,keep him on the roster, take the $5 mil cap hit and pay him rather then take a huge penalty cap hit.
Pretty sure the player would object to that and get a ruling against them and most likely ask for a trade.

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05-30-2013, 10:15 AM
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Pretty sure the player would object to that and get a ruling against them and most likely ask for a trade.
Why would he? If he wants to retire in 2017 but instead Hawks say stay at home, Hawks will leave him on the roster and pay him $1 million and take the $5.4 cap hit.

This is a much better solution for Hossa and the Hawks than Hawks taking a huge cap penalty.

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05-30-2013, 10:22 AM
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Eh, I'm still pretty bitter towards him for the Pens. I know he's an excellent player and all and I'm sure he would play great still.

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05-30-2013, 10:24 AM
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That makes a lot more sense to me, but on capgeek they said they verified from the league about their interpretation.

http://capgeek.com/new-cba/
Just my $.02 - but the NHLPA would (should) never allow this. It would mean that the league (as a whole) would be paying signficantly less to the players than stated in the CBA.

In either case - if that is the way the rule works (which I absolutely CANNOT beleive), the Hawks would tell Marion to stay home, collect his $1M, and have him count approximately $4.4M against the cap. (I believe that for players not playing in the NHL it their cap hit less about $0.9M (actually the NHL minimum salary + 300K or so).

In any case, the Hawks are not going to amensty buy out Hossa this off season, so it's a moot point.

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05-30-2013, 10:34 AM
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Pretty sure the player would object to that and get a ruling against them and most likely ask for a trade.
Just my thought - but in this instance Marion would have a conversation with the Hawks and say he would like to retire. That would be the only reason the Hawks would do this.

At the end of the day - I don't think the NHLPA would allow a situation where a team gets penalized $'s (which impacts what it constituents can earn) that are not getting paid to NHLPA members. And that is exactly what Capgeeks calculation does.

If Hossa retires with 1 year left on his deal:

Hossa Paid: $62.3M of the $63.3M in the contract
Hawks cap: $58M of the $63.3M in the contract

Common sense means the "Cap Recapture" would be $4.3M ($62.3M paid - $58M total cap hit = $4.3M). If the CapGeek is right - the leaugue would be "penalizing" the NHLPA $14+M, for no reason that I can see.

It makes a hell of a lot more sense that the "no credit" language would be for situation where a player retired while being on a back loaded contract, and the team wouldn't get a "cap credit" that it could use in the future.

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That is disgusting.

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05-30-2013, 11:47 AM
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That is disgusting.
If Oilers are getting Hossa, one of those guys would be in the deal. Most likely RNH.

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05-30-2013, 01:35 PM
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If Oilers are getting Hossa, one of those guys would be in the deal. Most likely RNH.
Getting him in a deal via free agency? I thought this thread was about free agency.

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05-30-2013, 01:55 PM
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Getting him in a deal via free agency? I thought this thread was about free agency.
On what planet would Marian Hossa willingly sign to play in Edmonton?

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06-01-2013, 10:27 PM
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A few things...

1) If they wanted to get rid of his cap hit it would make zero sense to amnesty him when they could get a king's ransom for him in a trade.

2) Down the road (4 plus seasons from now) they could trade him, and even retain some of his salary if necessary, to a team that wants to get to the cap floor.

3) As somebody else wrote, he could end up being a Selanne or Lidstrom like player. With the way he takes care of his body it is a legitimate possibility.

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06-01-2013, 10:52 PM
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I think that realistically, Hossa could command 4/24 as a UFA is compliance bought out this year. But if it's next year, I don't think that any team will want to go beyond 3 years and maybe 5M AAV.

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Hossa will have to be bought out this year or next. If he retires really (likely) the cap hit will be too much for Chicago.

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06-01-2013, 11:12 PM
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Would love nothing more then for him to come back to Ottawa and play with Spezza and retire a Sen.

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06-01-2013, 11:35 PM
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Would love to see him and Sid together again!!!
Me too and Chicago has potentially 15m coming off the books so they could actually get Crosby.

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06-01-2013, 11:44 PM
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On what planet would Marian Hossa willingly sign to play in Edmonton?
He had almost signed in Edmonton not that long ago...

But he knew the condition of the team and that he would have a better chance with Detroit on a short term deal.

It got to the point where everyone knew of the deal so he must have been seriously considering it. 9 mil or not.

And now the team is stacked with talent and has a bright future. Why not sign with Edmonton?

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Chicago would be better off buying him out when he plans to retire. They may face a cap penalty but it's better than him retiring.

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