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05-31-2013, 07:00 PM
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Where abouts is the combine being held and where did you go?

I was in Toronto last year and would be tempted to do this in the future to get autographs (And spend a couple of days in Toronto).
You go to the hotel they stay and the combine is held at and wait and wait for them to come out and go to breakfast/lunch/dinner and hope they wanna sign for you. I went 4 days from 7 am to after 9 pm (when MacKinnon and Jones came back from supper)

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05-31-2013, 07:02 PM
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It's at the ''international centre'', right next to the airport.
Thats the physical testing. All the first 4 days stuff (Interviews) is at the Wesson Hotel behind the airport

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05-31-2013, 07:07 PM
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Fucale looks about 5'11 or 6'0 and probably weighs 160 soaking wet.

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05-31-2013, 07:12 PM
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Domi really doesn't understand the questions lmfao.

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05-31-2013, 07:16 PM
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The thing is all these kids practice all these tests with they're own camp and etc ahead of time. So it's not exactly an accurate indication of how they are normally in a hockey season or even regular off season.

So someone like him that didn't bother to practice all these test, it's normal if he didn't do as well as others. I won't take much stock into that.

HOWEVER, I would like a better translation about him either not working out during off season to be not fatigue during the season. That could be cause for concern if he doesn't work out/etc during off season because he doesn't want to be fatigued during the season. Since the whole point of working out/conditioning/specific diet over the summer is to improve your strength/stamina/endurance/etc during the season along with getting better.
Well he will be here in NA the whole summer training

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...site-Draft2013
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Gandler told NHL.com that Nichushkin and his other two Russian clients participating in the NHL Scouting Combine this week, left wing Pavel Buchnevich and center Bogdan Yakimov, will train together over the summer at Power Train Sports Institute in Manheim, Pa., under the guidance of Steve Saunders. The institute specializes in preparing college football players for the NFL Combine.

"Valeri's goal is not to just make the team, but to be one of the top players in the NHL in his first year, and that's why he's staying in North America the entire summer and going through a tremendous fitness routine," Gandler said.
Craig Button and Ryan Rishaug commenting on Nichushkin "turning heads" at the combine:

http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=nhl-latest/l...38185/clip/456

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05-31-2013, 07:38 PM
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Well he will be here in NA the whole summer training

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...site-Draft2013


Craig Button and Ryan Rishaug commenting on Nichushkin "turning heads" at the combine:

http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=nhl-latest/l...38185/clip/456
Good stuff, his definitely one of my favourite prospects. From only preference stand point, I would only rather have Mackinnon (not by wide margin) and Barkov ahead of him.

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05-31-2013, 08:49 PM
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I'm curious to see what Jordan Subban is these days. He had a great season looking at stats alone, but he's still listed at a pretty petite 5'9 on hockeydb. Too small to be a factor as a defenseman? It'd be nice to see if he's grown an inch or two more this year, or at least gotten a little more husky.
Not too small to be a factor, but too small, and foremost too positionally unsound, to be anything much more than a PP/Offensive specialist at the next level. Yes he can play and contribute, but the team will have to pick his spots.

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05-31-2013, 08:56 PM
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Was listening to hockeycentral at noon and it was interesting to hear Bobby Orr say in an interview that he felt that the combine wasn't really necessary, at least not for the top ranked guys.

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05-31-2013, 09:08 PM
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I know this is going to sound strange but why does the NHL do the combine this early ? considering the fact that the memorial cup ended on Sunday it kind of puts the players who played practically five days ago at a handicap. in fairness the NHL could have moved the combine to say June 10th.

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05-31-2013, 09:49 PM
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Monahan is very well spoken and seems very driven. Total Flames type pick.

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05-31-2013, 09:56 PM
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To be completely honest this combine does matter for some draftees. But I wouldn't judge a player's entirety on his performance at the combine.


I'd say what matters is on the ice.

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05-31-2013, 10:10 PM
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sorry if it's been explained already, but could someone explain to me how the lb/lb body weight bench press result is calculated?

for example, in last years combine, Mike Winther is listed at 14.8 to lead this test, what does that 14.8 represent exactly?

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05-31-2013, 10:50 PM
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Can anyone tell me about the Swedish prospects?

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05-31-2013, 10:51 PM
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It's at the ''international centre'', right next to the airport.
I actually work there!

Saw Dave Morrison who's Toronto's scout talking to Paul Hendrick from LeafsTV. Saw some other teams scouts but couldn't stick around to hear who they liked or didn't like since we were pretty busy today .

Was kind of surprised to see how small these players seem in real life, kind of forget sometimes that most of these players still need to grow a lot in the next few years.

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05-31-2013, 11:36 PM
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GMs could see that as a HUGE positive for Nichushkin.....i.e. a kid who's very underdeveloped in many areas, yet still totally dominates his peers physically on the ice.
In what sense would this be a positive. I understand the kid has talent but if you listened to some of the interviews today from Gms and assistant gms on tsn radio, this kind of negativity and giving up is in no way viewed positive.

Let me use an example they used today.. a kid who gives up shows a lot of signs of "i dont care" and "let someone else do it"..

reports say he's just a beast and a sick player. that might be true and some team will get a home run pick. however, if he gives up easily and isnt overly motivated, we might see another filatov/zherdev 2.0

food for thought.

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05-31-2013, 11:41 PM
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sorry if it's been explained already, but could someone explain to me how the lb/lb body weight bench press result is calculated?

for example, in last years combine, Mike Winther is listed at 14.8 to lead this test, what does that 14.8 represent exactly?
I think it's basically the amount lifted divided by the player's weight.

Winther weighed a little under 170lbs and had 17 reps of 150lbs.

17repsx150lbs=2550lbs then 2550lbs/170lbs=15lb/lb

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Well he will be here in NA the whole summer training

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=6...site-Draft2013


Craig Button and Ryan Rishaug commenting on Nichushkin "turning heads" at the combine:

http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=nhl-latest/l...38185/clip/456
After watching the workouts Monahan looked a lot stronger than Nichushkin to me, I'll wait for the results though.

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I think it's basically the amount lifted divided by the player's weight.

Winther weighed a little under 170lbs and had 17 reps of 150lbs.

17repsx150lbs=2550lbs then 2550lbs/170lbs=15lb/lb
thanks for the explanation

strong kid, but of course bench press is the type of exercise that body type makes a big difference, a kid with long arms is going to do a lot worse than a thicker shorter armed kid

with legs being more important to hockey, I wonder why they don't do a squat test with 150 lbs free weight too? it is said that Jagr is extremely strong in the legs which is what makes him so hard to knock off the puck, and I've read that squat strength is more indicative of overall strength than bench press

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06-01-2013, 12:03 AM
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Fucale looks about 5'11 or 6'0 and probably weighs 160 soaking wet.
Having stood next to him, he's definitely 6'1 or 6'2. But he's pretty slight. Although that's not a big deal for goalies.

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I'm curious to see what Jordan Subban is these days. He had a great season looking at stats alone, but he's still listed at a pretty petite 5'9 on hockeydb. Too small to be a factor as a defenseman? It'd be nice to see if he's grown an inch or two more this year, or at least gotten a little more husky.
Subban was measured at 5'09" in THIS combine video (at the 0:04-0:06 mark).

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Can anyone tell me about the Swedish prospects?
Per TSN's Mark Masters, Lindholm and Wennberg are among the 29 players testing on Saturday.

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HOWEVER, I would like a better translation about him either not working out during off season to be not fatigue during the season. That could be cause for concern if he doesn't work out/etc during off season because he doesn't want to be fatigued during the season. Since the whole point of working out/conditioning/specific diet over the summer is to improve your strength/stamina/endurance/etc during the season along with getting better.
He said in a interview he took a two week vacation in Turkey after his season ended. Did not prepare for the combine because he feels at this point is better for him to rest up, of course he'll start training a little later on in the summer to be ready for next season.

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Nichushkin is build pretty good for someone looking little awkward on the benchpress. Seriously, his grip on the bar was little too narrow if going for reps.


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The Combine to me is just plain overkill. Let`s bring the top kids in, have them bench press, ride a bike etc....many coming out of a Mem Cup appearance and most likely gassed.

I would wager a decision to, or not to draft a kid has rarely, if ever been determined by combine results

Sorry, it`s as ludicrous and as silly as TSN/Sportsnet having a 16 hour trade deadline day

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The Combine to me is just plain overkill. Let`s bring the top kids in, have them bench press, ride a bike etc....many coming out of a Mem Cup appearance and most likely gassed.

I would wager a decision to, or not to draft a kid has rarely, if ever been determined by combine results

Sorry, it`s as ludicrous and as silly as TSN/Sportsnet having a 16 hour trade deadline day
17y olds don't get tired, they may be for a day but they're so full of hormones that they recover a lot faster than any adult.

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After watching the workouts Monahan looked a lot stronger than Nichushkin to me, I'll wait for the results though.
Monahan looks like he trains to me. Nichushkin looks like he has great genes but has never lifted a weight or done a push-up in his life. Frankly if they could get him to train he could improve greatly. Why he has never pickup a weight until now would be a question for me.

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