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Amnesty Volchenkov or Salvador?

View Poll Results: Which Player do you Buyout?
Anton Volchenkov 108 59.67%
Bryce Salvador 73 40.33%
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05-28-2013, 09:04 PM
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Amnesty Volchenkov or Salvador?

Assuming only one of these two gets bought out, who do you buy out?

Volchenkov has the bigger contract, and is under contract for longer, but he is not on a 35+ contract. He also has a NTC.

Salvador has a smaller contract, but he's 35+.

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05-28-2013, 09:08 PM
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Volch and its not even close. IMO sal gets a lot of unheralded hate around here. I still see him as a solid defenseman with adequate puckmoving ability for a SAH guy. Although the contract and redundancy of his style aren't ideal he's still an important piece the way I see it. Volchenkov on the other hand was one of.my favorite players back in his Ottawa days but he is beyond abysmal these days, just awful. He needs to go. He isn't even really a physical presence anymore aside from an occasional big hit whereas he used to be known as arguably the best hitting dman in the game

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05-28-2013, 09:09 PM
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Volchenkov makes the most sense to be bought out. (Sorry pal)

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05-28-2013, 09:26 PM
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Volchenkov.

I can live with Salvador if Volchenkov is thrown out.

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05-28-2013, 09:27 PM
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Amnesty Volch

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05-28-2013, 09:29 PM
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Send Anton an a train out of Newark Penn station, on a one way ticket.

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05-28-2013, 09:35 PM
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Send Anton an a train out of Newark Penn station, on a one way ticket.
We agree completely here.

I would buy him a ticket to any of the KHL's premiere cities so I don't ever have to see his useless self again.

That's likely where he ends up if we buy him out. Maybe he has a year or two with two different NHL teams before that.

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05-28-2013, 09:37 PM
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I love Anton's style of play...only if he were good at it. Shot blocker, heavy hitter, PK specialist......


Too bad he's not that good. Volch.

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05-28-2013, 09:38 PM
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Buy out Volch and take the C off Sal.

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05-28-2013, 09:39 PM
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If you were to choose one, Volch would be bought out but the answer is neither player should be on this team.

And yes, I understand Sal is our captain, but I feel that DeBoer is carrying him.

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05-28-2013, 09:45 PM
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Buy out Volch and take the C off Sal.
There is no way that we as fans can judge the quality of the captain, as much as we like to imagine we can. It's not all about what we see on the ice. If the team is happy with Sal as the captain, and by all accounts they are, that's good enough for me.

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05-28-2013, 09:48 PM
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Volchenkov. It's sad to see how regressed his play in last years, thanks to countless injuries and overall very toll taking style of play. His caphit don't help him either.

p.s: Anyone noticed that other teams use him as a "screen" against us? Seriously, how many goals we let because he blocks vision of our goalies? I already remembering that Florida series last year.

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There is no way that we as fans can judge the quality of the captain, as much as we like to imagine we can. It's not all about what we see on the ice. If the team is happy with Sal as the captain, and by all accounts they are, that's good enough for me.

He doesn't get benched as long as he's captain, that's my problem with him having the C. If he's struggling, he'll still be playing and putting the team down instead of taking a game or two off to get his head straight. Happened a few times this season.

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05-28-2013, 09:53 PM
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Neither will happen. If forced to choose one to free up space for a younger D I'd choose Volch. I'll always have a sweet spot for his warrior ways and willingness to put his body in harms way.

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Neither will happen. If forced to choose one to free up space for a younger D I'd choose Volch. I'll always have a sweet spot for his warrior ways and willingness to put his body in harms way.
You don't think we'll use either amnesty buyout? I have to think we'll use at least one. I would hope it isn't for Barch though.
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Volchenkov. It's sad to see how regressed his play in last years, thanks to countless injuries and overall very toll taking style of play. His caphit don't help him either.

p.s: Anyone noticed that other teams use him as a "screen" against us? Seriously, how many goals we let because he blocks vision of our goalies? I already remembering that Florida series last year.
Yes he almost cost us that series by sucking almost every game. He pushed a Panther into Marty on the tying goal in game 7. Our wonderful coach thought it was smart to keep playing him over Larsson though.

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I love Anton's style of play...only if he were good at it. Shot blocker, heavy hitter, PK specialist......


Too bad he's not that good. Volch.
He's not the same player Lou signed, due to the wear and tear of that particular style. The odometer is high.

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05-28-2013, 10:24 PM
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Salvador doesnt need to be amnestied.

Volch, hell yea.

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05-28-2013, 10:32 PM
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Salvador doesnt need to be amnestied.

Volch, hell yea.
I don't think he NEEDS to be, but it would improve the team.

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05-28-2013, 10:35 PM
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I don't think he NEEDS to be, but it would improve the team.
not really. he is fine as a 3rd pairing DMan.

amnesty Volch and trade Tally if need be but Sal is fine and his contract is not THAT bad.

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05-28-2013, 10:52 PM
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I honestly believe it's more likely we trade Volchenkov with salary retained than amnesty him altogether.

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I honestly believe it's more likely we trade Volchenkov with salary retained than amnesty him altogether.
I don't think anybody would take him. Let's say we split it even. We take back $2.1 million a year, and they take $2.1 million a year. He's not even worth $2.1 million a year anymore.

Plus I think they still get his $4.2 million cap hit. That's just brutal.

Us not buying him out might be one of the only reasons he's in the NHL. In my opinion he might have to find work in the KHL. I could see him playing somewhere for a year or two in the NHL if we were to get him out of here. Though we've seen players that have more use than he does now, sign in the KHL.

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05-28-2013, 11:10 PM
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Salvador can still play
Volchenkov is a liability on the ice

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05-28-2013, 11:24 PM
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I still don't like the contract or the fact that he is captain, but sal is fine by me as long as he's on the third pair, preferably with urbom next season.

Just don't pair him with zid again please. Fayne is really the only person on the team I would want paired with zid

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Give Volch to the Isles.

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