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09-26-2003, 12:38 PM
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Avs:

- Keep Mike Ricci somehow, someway (yea, Avs were formerly a team w/ no budget)

- If unable to keep Mike Ricci (say he was still traded to SJ for a 1st round pick), find someway to get the no.1 overall pick in '98. Can we say, Lecavalier - Forsberg - Hejduk?

- Say we still had the 4 1st round picks; don't draft Scott Parker, but instead Jiri Fischer (boy we could use him and could of sent Skoula packing a long time ago; hahah, Avs' whipping boy )

- No trade for Theo Fleury (very glad he was not re-signed)

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And of course, I would stop Vladimir Konstantinov from getting in that limo after the 1997 playoffs.

thats the only one that matters. They would have had a few more cups if that hadn't have happened.

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09-26-2003, 01:30 PM
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Toronto Maple Leafs:

1. Harold Ballard never becomes owner of the Leafs.

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1. The Devils re-sign Alexander Mogilny after 2001 and keep him paired with Scott Gomez.
2. The Devils do not draft Lance Ward in 1996, instead draft Derek Morris.
3. The Devils don't draft Nathan Perrott, instead they draft Mike Leclerc.

I can't think of any more.
NJ in the 1980s Draft Mistakes:

1- Rocky Trottier, 1982: Missed out on Ron Hextall, Doug Gilmour, Dave Andreychuk and Ray Ferraro.

2- Craig Wolanin, 1985: Missed out on Joe Nieuwendyk and Calle Johanssen

3- Neil Brady & Janne Ojanen, 1986: They could've been Brian Leetch and Teppo Nummanen

4- Corey Foster, 1988: Could've had Rob Blake, Alex Mogilny or Mark Recchi

5- Jason Miller, 1989: Should've grabbed Pavel Bure.

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09-26-2003, 04:53 PM
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Edm - listen to the fans

When crowd chants "Doan, Doan, Doan"

Don't draft Steve Kelly

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09-26-2003, 05:35 PM
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I'd think you'd rather have Chris Pronger than Bertuzzi. Pronger has been a force for years, and if healthy, is still more valuable than Bertuzzi.
I know but it was fairly hard to choose a player since there were many quality ones to be chosen.

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09-26-2003, 05:59 PM
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lafayette aims 1 cm lower and the canucks send game 7 of the 1994 SCF to overtime. Linden scores and the canucks win the cup
That works.

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09-26-2003, 06:11 PM
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So basically you change all the screw ups your team has done in the past.

For Ottawa:

Instead of drafting Alexandre Daigle 1st overall the Senators choose Todd Bertuzzi. Keeping him and devolloping him unlike N.Y. did.
Nono, the 'perfect' rewrite goes like this:

1. Ottawa drafts Paul Kariya, who puts up phenomenal numbers paired with C Alexei Yashin, later forming a dominant line with the addition of Alfredsson. As a result, the Sens need an offensive second-line center, and are less apt to consider Demitra available, retaining him rather than dumping him.

Bertuzzi would get traded before he blossomed, and Pronger would get hurt at a critical time in the Sens' history.

2. Ottawa doesn't trade Berard and instead manages to come to terms with him. Ottawa keeps Beaupre and Straka.

With these two small changes, the Sens start the 1996 season with the following lineup:

Kariya-Yashin-Alfredsson
MacEachern-Demitra-Straka
Cunneyworth-Bonk-Dackell
Chorske-Van Allen-Lambert

York-Duschesne
Laukkanen-Berard
Pitlick-Musil

Beaupre and Tugger tandem in goal.

Top prospects are:

Phillips (96)
Salo (96)
Bicanek (93)
Neckar (94)

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09-26-2003, 06:58 PM
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Never, ever trade for Lindros and instead just keep Forsberg. With that alone I'm sure we'd have a Cup or two in the last ten years.
Keep Janne Niinimaa and don't trade for Dan McGillis.
Keep Ouellet and our 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounds picks instead of picking up Oates for about a dozen games for the Flyers.
Keep Rod Brind' Amour instead of trading him for Keith Primeau. Keep Vinny Prospal instead of trading him for Alexandre Daigle.

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09-26-2003, 07:25 PM
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Canucks:

most first round draft picks after Linden

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09-26-2003, 07:42 PM
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Oil - Steve Smith doesn't pass the puck to the back of Grant Fuhr's leg, instead he puts it on the stick of one of his hall of fame fwd/defense teammates and the Oilers squash the upstart Flames while going on to win their third of five cups in a row.

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09-26-2003, 07:43 PM
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Flames draft Brodeur instead of Kidd.

*shudder*

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09-26-2003, 08:06 PM
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It's a bit pointless talking about drafting x instead of y.

Pretty much every team would do a "draft Pavol Demitra instead of x in the 6th round", "draft Henrik Zetterberg instead of x in the fourth round" etc etc. Not very hard to figure out who the teams should have drafted once you know how the players turn out. But since all teams can do the same revisionist drafts it is pretty pointless talking about it. Trades your team did or trades your team didn't do are ok for revisionism of course.

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09-26-2003, 10:39 PM
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It's a bit pointless talking about drafting x instead of y.

Pretty much every team would do a "draft Pavol Demitra instead of x in the 6th round", "draft Henrik Zetterberg instead of x in the fourth round" etc etc. Not very hard to figure out who the teams should have drafted once you know how the players turn out. But since all teams can do the same revisionist drafts it is pretty pointless talking about it. Trades your team did or trades your team didn't do are ok for revisionism of course.
That's exactly why when I did the re-draft thing, I restricted myself to players picked less than two rounds after the player in question.

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09-27-2003, 04:02 AM
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St. Louis....

- never gets rid of Scotty Bowman as head coach,
- takes Mike Gartner at #2 in 1979 instead of Perry Turnbull,
- takes Chris Chelios at #20 in 1981 instead of Marty Ruff,
- never lets Harry Ornest control the team (which means no trading Doug Gilmour and several other players b/c of financial concerns),
- gets to draft in 1983 (they didn't pick at all b/c of ownership questions)
- doesn't deal away their 1st round pick for several years
- We don't trade Momesso, Ronning, Courtnall and Dirk for Butcher and Quinn in 1991,
- the arbitrator gives the Devils Curtis Joseph instead of Scott Stevens,
- doesn't waste the '92 draft picking worthless Russians,
- NO MIKE KEENAN!
- Yzerman's shot sails over the crossbar in the 2nd OT of Game 7,
- Pronger doesn't get hurt in the 2002 playoffs

and that's just a start.
Pretty good start....

- Ownership doesn't nix the trade that would have sent Hull to Washington for Gonchar and J. Allison.
- Doesn't trade Joseph and Grier to Edmonton for a couple picks
- Drafts Jiri Fischer instead of Christian Backman in 1998

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09-27-2003, 08:26 AM
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Pretty good start....

- Ownership doesn't nix the trade that would have sent Hull to Washington for Gonchar and J. Allison.
- Doesn't trade Joseph and Grier to Edmonton for a couple picks
- Drafts Jiri Fischer instead of Christian Backman in 1998
I thought they traded Joseph for Shane Corson or something, but maybe I'm getting deals mixed up...

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09-27-2003, 09:58 AM
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I thought they traded Joseph for Shane Corson or something, but maybe I'm getting deals mixed up...
"St. Louis Blues traded Curtis Joseph and the rights of Mike Grier to the Edmonton Oilers for 1st round selection (previously acquired from the St. Louis Blues - Marty Reasoner) and 1st round selection (later traded to the Los Angeles Kings - Matt Zultek) in 1997."

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09-27-2003, 07:25 PM
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"St. Louis Blues traded Curtis Joseph and the rights of Mike Grier to the Edmonton Oilers for 1st round selection (previously acquired from the St. Louis Blues - Marty Reasoner) and 1st round selection (later traded to the Los Angeles Kings - Matt Zultek) in 1997."
Well, I guess the silver lining for St. Louis is that they used Reasoner to pick up Weight from Edmonton, and let Los Angeles waste the pick on Zultek. Who did they get from LA for that pick?

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NJ in the 1980s Draft Mistakes:

1- Rocky Trottier, 1982: Missed out on Ron Hextall, Doug Gilmour, Dave Andreychuk and Ray Ferraro.

2- Craig Wolanin, 1985: Missed out on Joe Nieuwendyk and Calle Johanssen

3- Neil Brady & Janne Ojanen, 1986: They could've been Brian Leetch and Teppo Nummanen

4- Corey Foster, 1988: Could've had Rob Blake, Alex Mogilny or Mark Recchi

5- Jason Miller, 1989: Should've grabbed Pavel Bure.
We never missed out on Ron Hextall!!

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08-06-2004, 11:25 AM
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Previously mentioned: Draft Denis Savard in 80, don't trade Chelios in '90

Also for the Habs, draft Bossy in '77 as Maurice Richard suggested to management, trade Pierre Larouche to Pittsberg instead of Hartford in '82 for the 1st pick in '84 thus getting Mario Lemiex. Also don't trade Pierre Turgeon in '96 for Corson and no Roy + Keane trade in '95.

Maybe draft Pavel Bure in '89 to later cobine with Val for a new Rocket/Pocket Rocket duo Russian style

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08-06-2004, 11:35 AM
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Dallas Stars:

1. Trade Harvey instead of Iginla to the Flames for Nieuwendyk in 1995
2. Draft Derek Morris at #5 instead of Richard Jackman
3. Because of #1, never have to sign Guerin to a $9 mil/year contract.

All I can think of right now

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08-06-2004, 12:07 PM
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Keep Rod Brind' Amour instead of trading him for Keith Primeau.
No reason to reverse that deal. Flyers have come out ahead.

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08-06-2004, 12:14 PM
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detroit:

-Instead of picking Joe Murphy in 1986 first overall, the wings took a risk on some kid named Brian Leetch
-Instead of Drafting Curtis Bowen in '92, they drafted Russian Boris Mironov (better then Bowen)
-Instead of Yves Racine in '87, they decided to draft some kid named Joe Sakic
-Never let Larionov leave for Florida a few years ago to get him back later, never send the pick away to get Doug Brown back (which ended up being Comrie i believe, from nashville sent to edmonton), never let osgood leave detroit for free, get WHATEVER possible...

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Glen Wesley's backhand is 6 inches lower in '90

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Sens
How about.
Never lose th original franchise.

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