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05-14-2005, 12:19 PM
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future jersey's retired

if every current player were to retire tommorow, which ones would have thier number retired by a current or former team?

speaking for Toronto, it's a pretty obvious choice with Mats Sundin

how about your favourite team?

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16 linden

19 naslund (if he plays a couple more years)

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For the Avalanche: Sakic, Forsberg, Foote, and Rob Blake. I think Hejduk, Tanguay, and Aebeschier all have a shot down the road.

For the Bruins: Joe Thornton. I think that is it.

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For the Avalanche: Sakic, Forsberg, Foote, and Rob Blake. I think Hejduk, Tanguay, and Aebeschier all have a shot down the road.

For the Bruins: Joe Thornton. I think that is it.
Yeah, Thornton for sure, and if Samsonov comes out and kicks ass, he's got it. Possibly Bergeron in the future.

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Yeah, Thornton for sure, and if Samsonov comes out and kicks ass, he's got it. Possibly Bergeron in the future.
With the storied history in Boston you think Samsanov could have his jersey retired?

That's just sad.

I don't think there is anyone on the current Oilers roster that would deserve it (the closest maybe Smyth, but that's about it).

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With the storied history in Boston you think Samsanov could have his jersey retired?

That's just sad.

I don't think there is anyone on the current Oilers roster that would deserve it (the closest maybe Smyth, but that's about it).
If Smyth plays finishes as an Oiler he definetly will.

Messiers 11 will go up when he retires as well.

Soemone like Hemsky or Schremp will have a shot in 20 years.

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Sundin, Sakic, and Linden are the only 3 listed so far that have any remote chance. You have to do A LOT more than just be a good player for a couple of years in order to get your # retired. A player has to be almost synonymous with a team for a very very long time in order to get such an honor and a player must do a lot of things off the ice as well. Loads of charity and city involvement, no skeletons, always humble and friendly is a must on top of being a franchise player.

Very few jerseys are retired on every team, and very few of retirees are European.

Does anyone think Jagr will ever have his sweater retired by any team even though he is arguably a top 25 all time player? I doubt it mainly because he is not very fan friendly and he has always gone for the money.

If every guy who was top 10 in his position for a couple years got his number retired, they would run out of numbers after a decade. There's no way Forsberg, Foote, Blake, or Naslund get their numbers retired, sorry.

The only guys I can see getting this honour in the next couple of years are Francis, Leetch, Messier, and Linden. EDIT* And Yzerman of course.


I hope people dont just list their team's current top line, d-pairing or starting goalie. *cough* joey *cough*


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Hemsky? Schremp? I doubt it, they will have fabulous careers but we're getting ahead of ourselfs if we're naming people like Schremp to have their Jerseys retired before they've even taken a shift in the NHL.

For the Leafs I don't know, Sundin will deffintly have 13 Honored, like so many other players, I know Gilmours 93 will be too.

but Retired? The Leafs have only ever retired 2 numbers and Unless Sundin dies before he retires (God forbid) or if he leads the Leafs to multiple cup wins I don't think it will be retired.

even Sittler's 27 isn't retired.

I imagine 19 will be retired in Colorado and Detroit once Sakic and Yzerman hang them up, Modano in Dallas too I bet.

Linden in Vancouver deffintly

If Iginla remains a Flame most of his career then I'd imagine seeing his #12 in the rafters of the Saddledome as well, I dunno if Nieuwendyk or Roberts would make it up their, Flames fans can probably answer that one better.

Koivu in Montreal? Maybee Theodore down the road.

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Rick Nash and Marc Denis.

What?... That's the best Columbus has done.. what are they going to do... retire Tomi Kallio's number?

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There are very few people I see getting their numbers retired, but here are a couple:

#68 Jaromir Jagr, Pittsburgh: I can see the Penguins retiring his number, despite the recent history.

#30 Martin Brodeur, New Jersey: Almost a lock, as long as he doesn't fall off the face of the Earth.

#4 Scott Stevens, New Jersey: A lock, IMO.

#11 Mark Messier, Edmonton and New York: Definitely a lock.

#19 Steve Yzerman, Detroit: Another lock.

#19 Joe Sakic, Colorado: Another lock.

That's about it. I can possibly see guys like Linden and Lidstrom, but it's really at the discrepency of the teams involved. Montreal has greats such as Dryden and Robinson without retired numbers, so different teams have different standards. Sundin has a good shot, but doesn't TO just honor numbers?

For the future, I can see Kovalchuk being Atlanta's first retired number if he lives up to his potential and stays with the Thrashers. No other youngster in the league seems to fit the bill though.

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#20 Luc Robitaille, and #4 Rob Blake if he ever came back to L.A.

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#20 Luc Robitaille, and #4 Rob Blake if he ever came back to L.A.
Forgot about Luc, he has a good chance. Don't see Blake getting his # retired though, but an LA fan would have a better grasp of that than me.

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Eventually Montreal should retire #19, 29 and 33. In a couple of decades maybe #87?

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Forgot about Luc, he has a good chance. Don't see Blake getting his # retired though, but an LA fan would have a better grasp of that than me.
I really doubt it would happen as well, but outside of Luc who is a lock imo, Blake would be the only person who is even close...

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On the current Isles roster nobody comes close to deserving it now. The only play who I think MIGHT one day reach that level is Dipietro.

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Yzerman obviously, in my humble opinion Lidstrom should get his jersey retired, too.

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Anaheim- None
Atlanta- None
Boston- None
Buffalo- Dominik Hasek
Calgary- Joe Nieuwendyk?
Carolina- Ron Francis
Chicago- None
Colorado- Joe Sakic, Adam Foote, Peter Forsberg
Dallas- Mike Modano
Detroit- Steve Yzerman, Nicklas Lidstrom, Brendan Shanahan
Edmonton- Mark Messier
Florida- Scott Mellanby
Los Angeles- Luc Robitaille
Montreal- Saku Koivu
NYI- None
NYR- Mark Messier, Brian Leetch
Ottawa- None
Philadelphia- None
Phoenix- None
Pittsburgh- Jaromir Jagr
San Jose- None
St. Louis- Al MacInnis, Chris Pronger
Toronto- Mats Sundin
Tampa Bay- Dave Andreychuk?
Vancouver- Trevor Linden
Washington- Olaf Kolzig?

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I think Alfredsson might. Hopefully Spezza one day. Hossa and Havlat are longshots, and who knows if they'll stay in the organization.

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I think Alfredsson might. Hopefully Spezza one day. Hossa and Havlat are longshots, and who knows if they'll stay in the organization.
I don't think Alfredsson's number would be retired if he retired tomorrow

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Anaheim- None
Atlanta- None
Boston- None
Buffalo- Dominik Hasek
Calgary- Joe Nieuwendyk?
Carolina- Ron Francis
Chicago- None
Colorado- Joe Sakic, Adam Foote, Peter Forsberg
Dallas- Mike Modano
Detroit- Steve Yzerman, Nicklas Lidstrom, Brendan Shanahan
Edmonton- Mark Messier
Florida- Scott Mellanby
Los Angeles- Luc Robitaille
Montreal- Saku Koivu
NYI- None
NYR- Mark Messier, Brian Leetch
Ottawa- None
Philadelphia- None
Phoenix- None
Pittsburgh- Jaromir Jagr
San Jose- None
St. Louis- Al MacInnis, Chris Pronger
Toronto- Mats Sundin
Tampa Bay- Dave Andreychuk?
Vancouver- Trevor Linden
Washington- Olaf Kolzig?
I think you are being overly generous here. If Koivu could get his jersey raised to the roster in that building, something is wrong. I also don't think that players like Anderychuk, Kolzig (what exactly has he won?), Mellanby, Nieuwendyk, and Shanahan are anywhere close to that level.

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I don't think Alfredsson's number would be retired if he retired tomorrow

I guess it would help if I read the topic and not just the title and that one list.

I think if he can play out his contract while still being a PPG player he'll have an alright chance of getting his jersey retired.

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Kolzig (what exactly has he won?)
I'm pretty sure he has a Vezina. I'd have to check out a list of past winners to confirm.....

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For the Avalanche: Sakic, Forsberg, Foote, and Rob Blake. I think Hejduk, Tanguay, and Aebeschier all have a shot down the road.

For the Bruins: Joe Thornton. I think that is it.
The Avs would have no reason to retire blakes number. hes onl played 3 seasons for them. Its not like the other 3 who have spent their entire careers there

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Sundin, Sakic, and Linden are the only 3 listed so far that have any remote chance. You have to do A LOT more than just be a good player for a couple of years in order to get your # retired. A player has to be almost synonymous with a team for a very very long time in order to get such an honor and a player must do a lot of things off the ice as well. Loads of charity and city involvement, no skeletons, always humble and friendly is a must on top of being a franchise player.

Very few jerseys are retired on every team, and very few of retirees are European.

Does anyone think Jagr will ever have his sweater retired by any team even though he is arguably a top 25 all time player? I doubt it mainly because he is not very fan friendly and he has always gone for the money.

If every guy who was top 10 in his position for a couple years got his number retired, they would run out of numbers after a decade. There's no way Forsberg, Foote, Blake, or Naslund get their numbers retired, sorry.

The only guys I can see getting this honour in the next couple of years are Francis, Leetch, Messier, and Linden. EDIT* And Yzerman of course.


I hope people dont just list their team's current top line, d-pairing or starting goalie. *cough* joey *cough*
Sorry if I sound like a homer Bob, but having been a season ticket holder the whole time the team has been in Denver, I'll stick by my list. You also need to remember that the Avalanche are a little different. I disagreed, but they did not honor the retired jerseys of # 8 Marc Tardiff; # 16 Michel Goulet (the current AVS VP); and # 26 Peter Stastny. They also retired Ray Bourque's # 77 despite the controversy. Further, the decision to retire jerseys is a choice of the organization, not a league-wide concensus. On to the choices:

Joe Sakic - I won't even argue that one.

Peter Forsberg - despite what people think, he is at least a Top 10 player in the league. I also believe that he is on the Top 5 all-time list for points per game. Olympic gold, ROY, MVP, two cups. His impact on the team may actually be underrated. While, sadly, his injuries may keep him out of the HOF, I am sure # 21 will be in the rafters.

Adam Foote - when Joe Sakic signed the offer sheet with the Rangers the management had already decided to make Foote the Captain if Joe left. He is an absolute gamer and makes huge contributions to the community. He is on every Olympic and World Cup team and has won the two cups. If you look at the current Top 5 defensemen thread on another post, he is on almost every list. He has spent his entire career with the organization and is a lock - I'd bet you whatever you wanted on this one.

Rob Blake - definitely a reach on my part. I just think he may get some of that Bourque-esque love. It may be more of a tribute to the player and his career more than a statement as to his team contribution.

Blake I might give you, the others are locks! You can stop coughing now.


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For the Leafs I don't know, Sundin will deffintly have 13 Honored, like so many other players, I know Gilmours 93 will be too.

but Retired? The Leafs have only ever retired 2 numbers and Unless Sundin dies before he retires (God forbid) or if he leads the Leafs to multiple cup wins I don't think it will be retired.

even Sittler's 27 isn't retired.
good point, I was thinking "honoured", but wrote "retired"

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The Avs would have no reason to retire blakes number. hes onl played 3 seasons for them. Its not like the other 3 who have spent their entire careers there
As of today, no. A couple more years with the team would make him a better candidate.

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