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06-03-2013, 10:12 AM
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Lol, no idea what that achieves. TK has been solid on that line, while morrow has been meh. Once again, the change he needs to make...he doesn't. Shocker.

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06-03-2013, 10:17 AM
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I have a feeling Geno's going to come out on a mission tonight.
God-mode Geno.

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06-03-2013, 10:21 AM
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I hope it's open ice like periods 1 and 2 of the first game. It was scary watching the Pens O but it was equally exciting watching the Bruins go on so many odd man rushes.

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06-03-2013, 10:25 AM
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I have a feeling Geno's going to come out on a mission tonight.
God-mode Geno.
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3 goals, 3 goal cam poses from inside the net, 3 beat downs

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06-03-2013, 10:26 AM
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Really hoping that the Bruins players are as overconfident as their fans - that game was a hell of a lot closer than the 3-0 score would indicate, and if it weren't for a few bounces going the other way, I think that game ends in a Pens win. No need to overhaul the game plan or lineup, the bounces will even out over a series - play the same game you did Saturday and the Pens come out on top.
The same can be said about the Bruins. 3 on 1? 2 on 0 that Marchand messed up? They could've scored 5-7 goals themselves.

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06-03-2013, 10:28 AM
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I'm living in Pittsburgh, and even though the man is a disgusting Penguins homer, and I think even a lot of you hate him, I saw Mark Madden wrote in one of his columns that the team that loses Game 1 in the Conference Finals loses the series 70.4% of the time. Yikes.

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06-03-2013, 10:29 AM
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The same can be said about the Bruins. 3 on 1? 2 on 0 that Marchand messed up? They could've scored 5-7 goals themselves.
That's true, we gave up so many odd man rushes it was disgusting.

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06-03-2013, 10:29 AM
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Yep, people tend to forget that. When they won the Cup in '09 they were down 0-2 in at least one series, and I think it was 2. When they won the Cup in '91 they were down 0-2 to the Bruins. I don't expect them to lose tonight but if they do it's not the end of the world.
True but in 2009 we lost those 2 series first two games on the road, not at home, right?

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06-03-2013, 10:30 AM
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I'm living in Pittsburgh, and even though the man is a disgusting Penguins homer, and I think even a lot of you hate him, I saw Mark Madden wrote in one of his columns that the team that loses Game 1 in the Conference Finals loses the series 70.4% of the time. Yikes.
That's true, our only saving grace is it seems 100% of the series you call, are incorrect.

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06-03-2013, 10:30 AM
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I'm living in Pittsburgh, and even though the man is a disgusting Penguins homer, and I think even a lot of you hate him, I saw Mark Madden wrote in one of his columns that the team that loses Game 1 in the Conference Finals loses the series 70.4% of the time. Yikes.
Love Mark Madden, he's very opinionated which makes him entertaining. He isn't always right obviously but whatever. People who get worked up over media pundits need to relax.

That statistic isn't as bad as I thought it would be, tbh.

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06-03-2013, 10:34 AM
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Really hoping that the Bruins players are as overconfident as their fans - that game was a hell of a lot closer than the 3-0 score would indicate, and if it weren't for a few bounces going the other way, I think that game ends in a Pens win. No need to overhaul the game plan or lineup, the bounces will even out over a series - play the same game you did Saturday and the Pens come out on top.
Yeah, i'm not hitting panic mode at all. Although boston had a couple missed opportunities on some open nets with us, that game would have been a 5-5 game going into OT.

The only thing I'm concerned about is the fact that in game one, they already got under the skin of some of our superstars to the point where it threw off the whole team and we were making some really bad decisions. I hope they took a step back and forgot about everything that just happened, because if not, this series is going to look a lot like the philly one (Without the high scoring). Boston is a scary good team, with more talent then the ink on paper shows, and this series is going to be a really good one. Probably will be talked about for a couple years as an ECF measuring stick, assuming its a long series.

Good feeling about tonight though, go pens!

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06-03-2013, 10:36 AM
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Madden's a decent hockey mind, but he takes things too far and talks way too much.

He was calling Rask a "clown act" before the series started, basically referring to him as at BEST an average goalie. That's just dumb.

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06-03-2013, 10:38 AM
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Love Mark Madden, he's very opinionated which makes him entertaining. He isn't always right obviously but whatever. People who get worked up over media pundits need to relax.

That statistic isn't as bad as I thought it would be, tbh.
He knows his hockey, and is the best when it comes to hockey talk in pitt, but thats not saying much considering his only competition at that time slot is the fan, which only likes to talk about mid season baseball and off season football during hockey playoffs. They make tim benz look like a genius when they talk hockey.

As for the 70% statistic, it says a lot about conference finals, but I'm not much of a stats guy myself, so i'm hoping this one doesn't really matter.

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06-03-2013, 10:40 AM
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Yeah, i'm not hitting panic mode at all. Although boston had a couple missed opportunities on some open nets with us, that game would have been a 5-5 game going into OT.

The only thing I'm concerned about is the fact that in game one, they already got under the skin of some of our superstars to the point where it threw off the whole team and we were making some really bad decisions. I hope they took a step back and forgot about everything that just happened, because if not, this series is going to look a lot like the philly one (Without the high scoring). Boston is a scary good team, with more talent then the ink on paper shows, and this series is going to be a really good one. Probably will be talked about for a couple years as an ECF measuring stick, assuming its a long series.

Good feeling about tonight though, go pens!
this really shouldn`t be a surprise. They won a cup right? they also went through two teams that eliminated Pitt in the playoffs in MTL and Philly.

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06-03-2013, 10:45 AM
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We talked about mostly negatives since the pens lost game 1, but one thing that really surprised me is how much more physical Pens were, Boston looked really soft in that area

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06-03-2013, 10:46 AM
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As Cole has often mentioned in the past, we need to activate the defense in offensive zone entries. When a defenseman moves up to join the attack, he should read the quality of puck possession at the offensive blue line.
Just make sure they don't stop and “hang out” – they have to get back to the blue line on the other end.
We don’t want it to cost us the other way and give the Bruins a chance to get an odd man rush.

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06-03-2013, 10:55 AM
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Not going to be around to reply so I am not starting things

I know a lot of you guys have been saying if the Pens play the way they did the first 40 they will win the series.

This is my reply
It took the Bruins 40 minutes to get the rust off, expect more of the third period than the first period going forward, even balanced game with a slight edge to the Bruins becuase of there structure.

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06-03-2013, 10:57 AM
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I'm living in Pittsburgh, and even though the man is a disgusting Penguins homer, and I think even a lot of you hate him, I saw Mark Madden wrote in one of his columns that the team that loses Game 1 in the Conference Finals loses the series 70.4% of the time. Yikes.
There's also the President's Trophy curse, and Chicago is still looking like Stanley Cup favorites to me.

The Pens also have never beaten the New York Islanders in a playoff series.

C'mon man. We got 'em right where we want 'em.

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06-03-2013, 11:07 AM
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Not going to be around to reply so I am not starting things

I know a lot of you guys have been saying if the Pens play the way they did the first 40 they will win the series.

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It took the Bruins 40 minutes to get the rust off, expect more of the third period than the first period going forward, even balanced game with a slight edge to the Bruins becuase of there structure.
The score and circumstances helped to dictate the way the Bruins looked and the Pens looked. Why would it take the Bruins 40 minutes to get the rust off but not the Pens? Once the Bruins got the 2 goal lead, they did a great job clogging up the neutral zone. They played extremely well with the lead. If the Pens score early on the PP in the 3rd, it would have been a totally different 3rd period.

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06-03-2013, 11:16 AM
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Not going to be around to reply so I am not starting things

I know a lot of you guys have been saying if the Pens play the way they did the first 40 they will win the series.

This is my reply
It took the Bruins 40 minutes to get the rust off, expect more of the third period than the first period going forward, even balanced game with a slight edge to the Bruins becuase of there structure.
Should I even be surprised that you missed the point of what everyone's saying.

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06-03-2013, 11:20 AM
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Sorry, but I didn't want it to be full focus.

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As Cole has often mentioned in the past, we need to activate the defense in offensive zone entries. When a defenseman moves up to join the attack, he should read the quality of puck possession at the offensive blue line.
Just make sure they don't stop and “hang out” – they have to get back to the blue line on the other end.
We don’t want it to cost us the other way and give the Bruins a chance to get an odd man rush.
We need to do 100% the opposite of this.

Every time 58 is in deep its a 2 v 1 or 3 v 1 the other way.

This team's front 9 should be able to score 3 goals a game (save bad breaks and opposing goalies standing on their heads). Holding the other team to 1 or 2 should be the priority. Not questionable D pinches constantly.

Let our D contribute on the PP and the classic Murray/Orps shots (i.e. hold the blue line and get soft wristers to the net.)

Yes, 58 and, at times, P-Mart make some amazing offensive moves, but i would gladly trade the occasion offensive brilliance for consistent D.

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06-03-2013, 11:31 AM
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Remember remember the 3rd of June, when Boston came to play, but could not break Voukon

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Not exactly the type of creativity I was hoping for . . .

That said, I would like to see Bylsma show some creativity (a) in throwing Sid out there when Julien doesn't expect it, (b) in skating Malkin until he drops on any line, including with Sid, and (c) in giving Neal a lot more minutes (and if that means Morrow or whoever goes out with him and Geno instead of Iggy, then all the better perhaps).

With the whole 'we'll roll four' thing, Julien knew when to throw out Bergeron and he knew when to give Chara extra shifts out there. He knew when Sid and Geno were coming out, and that's why he got his matchups pretty much every single time after the opening faceoff.

On one level, one can say 'matchups' shouldn't matter. On the other hand, I don't know why any coach would throw away a competitive advantage, be it the home ice change or having the two best players in hockey and not using them as lineup sledgehammers.

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06-03-2013, 11:34 AM
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I'm really hoping to see Iggy on the first PP.

I would also like to see the Pens attack Rasks feet more when at a bad angle. Time it with a center drive to really make that POP work.

I don't think you beat the B's with a net front... it has to be more about timing.
You won't . . .

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