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03-30-2014, 12:50 PM
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Agreement Between Hockey Quebec and LHPS

March 28, 2014 an agreement was announced between Hockey Quebec and the LHPS (Ligue Hockey Preparatoire Scolaire) granting associate status to the LHPS:

http://www.journalexpress.ca/Sports/...ockey-Quebec/1

Advantages to all concerned. More information as it becomes available.

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03-30-2014, 09:16 PM
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This spells this death of community hockey.

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03-30-2014, 10:32 PM
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This spells this death of community hockey.
Could you explain why?

Given that school hockey was around for app. 75 years before Hockey Quebec and has easily co-existed with community hockey in the USA.

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03-31-2014, 07:18 AM
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This is the option parents have been waiting for. Community hockey will always exist.

This must be a huge slap in the face for the AAA/AA structures like LSL who now will be competing for talent and have lost part of their monopoly.

This is great for kids and parents.

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so let me get this straight
these LHPS school teams that can "recruit" any student from anywhere in Quebec (North America +++) will compete against teams who's players are bound by a postal code

how is that going to work ?

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so let me get this straight
these LHPS school teams that can "recruit" any student from anywhere in Quebec (North America +++) will compete against teams who's players are bound by a postal code

how is that going to work ?
Things will run as usual. Long term, instead of seeing Quebec youngsters take the US Prep School route - Torrey Mitchell etc, or a western route - Vincent Lecavalier, Martin St. Louis etc, they will have a local alternative. Plus for Quebec hockey.

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Schools will be raiding talent from associations...

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The raiding of talent has started already. Kids going into high school in the next year or 2 are hearing more and more about it.

In 2-3 years the schools will be dominate vehicle for elite level hockey.

This is all generate by demand as well.

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In bantam there's a big loss of talent, only way to fight it is more non parents.

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wont happen

Hockey Q is now in control and will assure that the civil (city) hockey option always has the better over the school

I expect changes over time to remove restrictions to postal codes and free borders for all players who do not chose school option; Increasing competition and quality of opponent

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They will never free the borders for hockey. It would mean the death of hockey in many associations who cannot compete fiscally.

Freeing the borders opens up a pandoras box.

The free border already exists with the private school system. HQ will do what is best for business and if that means the community teams suffer, you really think they care.

Realistically, there are more dollars and deeper pockets in the school system.

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Hockey in Quebec is a "volume" game. The Qc govt will (Hence HQ) do what they need to assure the civilian part of it continues and flourishes
Qc is a poor province and majority of kids will not afford the costs associated with school hockey

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I think times are changing and sadly who is going to subsidize the parents who cannot afford hockey. Ice time costs are continually going up and municipal budgets are squeezed.

Numbers are going down in hockey in most associations.

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wont happen

Hockey Q is now in control and will assure that the civil (city) hockey option always has the better over the school

I expect changes over time to remove restrictions to postal codes and free borders for all players who do not chose school option; Increasing competition and quality of opponent
The above is a more logical conclusion.

School hockey has been around a long time. Their budgets are squeezed too. Certainly , if cannot afford private school in which the LHPS operates you will not be able to afford community hockey. Tuition at some of the Quebec based prep schools are I the neighbourhood of $20k and they do not have $100 million ++ endowments like the US PREPS. We were approached - I know the Quebec prep school had no money to give towards the tuition - unlike in the US. This agreement was a takeover not a merger.


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I disagree that it was a takeover. HQ got involved to save itself.

The private schools will always have money and those willing to pay. It costs a small fortune now to train a kid to get to an elite level.

Realistically, HQ had no choice but to partner with a prep school program gaining momentum. It was either join or be steamrolled.

End of the day, kids with talent and money have tons of options.

Reality is that kids will still go the US prep schools because they are looking at US colleges in long term.

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actually, kids with money and hockey at young age; I can guarantee that
hockey is NOT a career option for these folks

the LHPS has 1000 players that's chump change vs HQ registrations and numbers

HQ did this deal to eventually control all of hockey and reign in the LHPS (who was against wall due to the fact that US schowcases/tournaments where refusing their applications because they where not part of "hockey Canada"....)

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I think times are changing and sadly who is going to subsidize the parents who cannot afford hockey. Ice time costs are continually going up and municipal budgets are squeezed.

Numbers are going down in hockey in most associations.
Suggest going to Centre-Sud and other similar organizations and looking at their benefactors. Also the various non-profits - the Canadiens, Hyundai.

This help has been around for ages, Predates the McConnell Foundation that helped sponsor the Boys Club after WWII, the various service organizations - Optimist, Kiwanis, etc.

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Suggest going to Centre-Sud and other similar organizations and looking at their benefactors. Also the various non-profits - the Canadiens, Hyundai.

This help has been around for ages, Predates the McConnell Foundation that helped sponsor the Boys Club after WWII, the various service organizations - Optimist, Kiwanis, etc.
I know in our hockey association, if a kid cannot afford to pay - they can apply to the cities and they will pay. It is need based. Same as Hyundai which is rather new - but we had kids in our association make use of this program as well. So there are options out there. Mind you this very basic and would not cover large AAA/AA budgets.

If a kid is really good - there will always be "help" from one source or another. Such is life. Depending on the kids age - if somehow they are deemed a pro prospect - help will come to them.

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Does anyone know will there be anymore schools joining the Ligue Hockey Preparatoire Scolaire next year?

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