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01-12-2014, 06:03 PM
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Quick question:

I'm buying tickets for the Monday afternoon game. Is row c the top of section 102 and row k is the bottom or the other way around.

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Quick question:

I'm buying tickets for the Monday afternoon game. Is row c the top of section 102 and row k is the bottom or the other way around.

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Row C is closer to the ice, and row K is near, or at, the top. Section 102 is behind the bench, with luxury boxes at the top, so I do not know how many rows there are on that side. The luxury boxes may take up a couple of rows. Our seats are in Section 113, directly across from 102, and they go to Row M in that section. We have the press box right behind us.

I wouldn't go too far down in Section 102, or you may have problems seeing over the players and coaches on the bench. I had a co-worker whose wife bought him tickets there last year, and they could not see very well. They ended up moving over to our section and sat in a couple of open seats next to us (we sit up high).


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2 games at home and 2 losses to good teams. We can't expect to win against these teams with the way we fail to clear the zone. We can't get through the neutral zone with any speed which almost always results in turnovers. When we don't turn it over, we play a dump and chase offensive game that almost never results in any prolonged pressure. We might make the playoffs, but it will probably be in 8th overall in the West. Does anybody know what the deal is with Hartman? Sounded like he possibly might have ticked off the coaching staff early in the game. Something happened, I just don't know what exactly.

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01-19-2014, 07:53 AM
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2 games at home and 2 losses to good teams. We can't expect to win against these teams with the way we fail to clear the zone. We can't get through the neutral zone with any speed which almost always results in turnovers. When we don't turn it over, we play a dump and chase offensive game that almost never results in any prolonged pressure. We might make the playoffs, but it will probably be in 8th overall in the West. Does anybody know what the deal is with Hartman? Sounded like he possibly might have ticked off the coaching staff early in the game. Something happened, I just don't know what exactly.
Not sure about Hartman, but he has looked uninterested since returning from Sweden. There has been a noticeable lack of effort in his game, IMO. Maybe the coaching staff thinks so, too, and is trying to make some corrective action.

There is not much to get excited about with this team. Even Ned let in two weak goals on consecutive nights - the 2nd against Windsor looked like an instant replay of the only goal scored by Sudbury. As you said, they cannot clear the zone, nor get through the neutral zone. Also, the offense consists mostly of low percentage shots from way outside - no one is going to the net.

We noticed that later in the game, Vellucci put probably their least talented forward, Scognamiglio, on the power play. A friend who was attending the game with us said Vellucci probably instructed him to park himself in front of the net, and sure enough that is right where Vincent went after the faceoff. It was nice to see a Whalers jersey in front of the opposing goaltender for once. Too bad guys like Mistelle, Chatham or Sills, who have a little more skill, will not do that type of dirty work.

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Not sure about Hartman, but he has looked uninterested since returning from Sweden. There has been a noticeable lack of effort in his game, IMO. Maybe the coaching staff thinks so, too, and is trying to make some corrective action.
You totally right he hasn't done anything since he been back no effort at all. I think it is starting to effect some other players on the team with there play as well.

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There is not much to get excited about with this team. Even Ned let in two weak goals on consecutive nights - the 2nd against Windsor looked like an instant replay of the only goal scored by Sudbury. As you said, they cannot clear the zone, nor get through the neutral zone. Also, the offense consists mostly of low percentage shots from way outside - no one is going to the net.
I Just think Ned is tired tough week for him, hopefully he turns it around.

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We noticed that later in the game, Vellucci put probably their least talented forward, Scognamiglio, on the power play. A friend who was attending the game with us said Vellucci probably instructed him to park himself in front of the net, and sure enough that is right where Vincent went after the faceoff. It was nice to see a Whalers jersey in front of the opposing goaltender for once. Too bad guys like Mistelle, Chatham or Sills, who have a little more skill, will not do that type of dirty work.
I like the way he played last night he was only one of the few who put out effort in the game, he kind of reminds me of a young Jamie Devane. I really think we are missing Vanderwiel and Sandlak out there right now. This has to be the least physical Mike Vellucci coach team I have every seen no one check on a consistent basis we get pushed around to much it is odd to see from his team.

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01-20-2014, 04:34 PM
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I do not know who that team wearing green at Compuware was this afternoon, but I would like to see them play more often. The Whalers drove hard to the net, made good passes out of their own zone, and played by far their best game of the season. I have not seen so many Plymouth jerseys in front of the opponent's net all season.

Can we see this effort again soon? Please?

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01-20-2014, 06:10 PM
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I do not know who that team wearing green at Compuware was this afternoon, but I would like to see them play more often. The Whalers drove hard to the net, made good passes out of their own zone, and played by far their best game of the season. I have not seen so many Plymouth jerseys in front of the opponent's net all season.

Can we see this effort again soon? Please?
I was unable to make it today, but got an interesting voicemail during the game. It was from a friend that told me "The Whalers are kicking a_s! Where are you?" I guess he wasn't lying.

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I was unable to make it today, but got an interesting voicemail during the game. It was from a friend that told me "The Whalers are kicking a_s! Where are you?" I guess he wasn't lying.
No he wasn't lying. I couldn't believe how Saginaw let the Whalers camp out in front of the net and just put in those garbage goals. Credit to the Whalers. You guys actually put in the work today.

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I was unable to make it today, but got an interesting voicemail during the game. It was from a friend that told me "The Whalers are kicking a_s! Where are you?" I guess he wasn't lying.
For awhile there, I thought we had fallen into a time warp and were watching last year's team. It was bizarre. As Kingpin said, the Spirit's defense was not doing much to help the goaltender, but lack of defensive resistance from the opposition has not translated to Plymouth driving to the net in previous games this year. I had not seen anything like this all season.

The only negative to the game was that Hartman was still pretty much the Invisible Man out there. Mistele, Chatham and Sills, though, were all going to the net. Scognamiglio was rewarded with more ice time, too, for his efforts on Saturday.

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0 for 3 over the weekend. 2 against the teams behind us in the standings. Anybody care to share their thoughts?

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0 for 3 over the weekend. 2 against the teams behind us in the standings. Anybody care to share their thoughts?
The game Friday was probably the most disappointing. Kitchener has been pretty bad, and yet they blew out Plymouth. The team got back quite late from Kitchener on Saturday morning due to the snow, so I could understand why they may have run out of steam on Saturday night. They started out well against the Sting, then a couple of stupid double minors by Sandlak and Hartman seemed to kill their momentum. By the third period the team looked just plain tired.

I did not listen to Sunday's game at all, but figured it would not be a good result. The team hopped on a bus right after Saturday's game to get to the Soo -- they had to be exhausted.

I have been completely unimpressed with Hartman lately. It looks like he doesn't want to be here. I really wish that Vellucci had traded him for whatever he could get. Meanwhile, Ned looks tired, as he let in another soft goal on Saturday. It may be time to give him a night off every once in awhile and let the rookie Bowman have a little ice time.

Anyway, the team had a chance to separate themselves from Kitchener and Sarnia a little. Instead, they let both teams bunch up closer. The playoff streak is definitely in jeopardy. Even if they squeak in, there will only be two games at Compuware anyway -- there is no way this team can beat the #1 seed more than once in a seven game series.

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WhalersFan, I agree with you on nearly all of your post. I heard some rumors, that would make you think that Hartman wanted a trade and is now tanking it. I agree that he should have been moved to further our rebuild. In regards to playoffs, I hope that I am wrong, but I think we miss the playoffs. I think that we will be trading, waiving and releasing some players over the summer. Provided that Hartman is gone to the AHL, Lorentz-Malysa-Sandlak gone as OAers, here is my list of players that I would look to get rid of by any means necessary.

1. Hiddink
2. Rathgeb
3. Addesi

I see nothing from these three that would persuade me to keep them.

Here is the the list of players that I wouldn't part with (not in any order).

1. Curcuruto
2. Ned
3. Peters
4. Chatham
5. Bowman
6. Vilardi
7. Vanderweil
8. Dunda
9. Sills

These players show offensive, defensive or leadership traits that are desirable. The way I look at it, there will be 6 or 7 new faces next year and I don't expect that they will all be rookies. We, as fans, have been spoiled by the success of so many years of making the playoffs consecutively. I hope we make it for the experience it will give our young guys. Our goaltending has been pretty good this year. Hopefully Bowman gets more starts. He deserves it. Ned needs a break. He has put in a ton of work this year. Lets hope that we steal a few down the stretch.

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01-28-2014, 08:24 AM
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WhalerBlue,

Probably the only changes I would make to your lists would be moving Rathgeb from the "get rid of" to a "it depends" list and maybe adding Mercer to the "keeper" list. Neither Hiddink nor Addesi have shown anything since being acquired, but Rathgeb has improved somewhat. If the team can improve its imports, I wouldn't be sad to see him go, but do not think he needs to leave under any circumstance. Same with Crus Rydberg -- he has not shown much for an NHL draft pick, but only needs to go if the team is able to acquire a better import. Henderson would go on my "it depends" list, too.

Hartman will be an interesting player to watch next fall. If his attitude doesn't get better, he could find himself back in the OHL at some point. If that were to happen, I would hope that Plymouth would trade him. I always pull for former Whalers at the next level, but I am going to have a difficult time doing that with Hartman.

I wouldn't place money either for or against the Whalers making the playoffs. They have really struggled lately, but neither Kitchener nor Sarnia are setting the world on fire, either. I cannot see the Rangers making the playoffs, but either the Sting or Whalers could, depending on which team is able to make a small run.

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Beyond the miserable play of our hometown team, that was the best three on three action outside of pornographic films. Go Whalers! Throw haymakers the rest of the season to sell a few tickets because we can't hit our ***** with both hands to save our lives. How we managed to be in a hockey game with 1 minute remaining is nearly unbelieveable.

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That was a frustrating game to watch. Plymouth had lots of opportunities, but couldn't generate many good scoring chances against Kingston's weak goalie - our old friend Mahalak. Once again, the team just skated around the perimeter, with no players driving to the net. That last power play was pathetic, with the Whalers just standing around until Hartman took another stupid penalty. I felt sorry for Ned -- he had little support last night, and he was the only reason the game was close.

With all that said, the winning goal was scored by a player (Bennett) who should not have even been on the ice. Bennett should have been ejected for that swinging stick to the head after the whistle in the 3rd period, but he instead received only a double minor. The officiating was as bad as the Whalers, as the referees lost control of the game early, which led to that wild ruckus in the 2nd period. Just a few minutes before the fights, I predicted that the game was going to turn ugly. I certainly didn't expect it to get that wild, though.

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Hi Whalers fans, I'd like to have some infos on Franky Vilardi.

I saw him played when he was younger, he was just awesome. Completely dominating games.

How's he looking for you guys? Does he has a chance to det drafted ni the NHL? Any others info?

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Hi Whalers fans, I'd like to have some infos on Franky Vilardi.

I saw him played when he was younger, he was just awesome. Completely dominating games.

How's he looking for you guys? Does he has a chance to det drafted ni the NHL? Any others info?

Thanks a lot!!
At this point, I'm not sure Vilardi's shown enough to be drafted. He's small, and has not been much of an offensive threat so far. Of course, the entire team has struggled offensively this season, so he hasn't had much support on the ice, either. Maybe a team will take a late round flyer on him, but I wouldn't consider him much of an NHL prospect right now.

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I like Vilardi. He is really just starting to show signs of his offensive game. He won't be drafted or atleast I don't think he will be drafted. He will play his way into a free agent contract would be my guess if he continues to improve. It sounded like he got hosed in his development prior to coming to us. I expect big things from him next year.

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WhalersFan, I agree with you on nearly all of your post. I heard some rumors, that would make you think that Hartman wanted a trade and is now tanking it. I agree that he should have been moved to further our rebuild. In regards to playoffs, I hope that I am wrong, but I think we miss the playoffs. I think that we will be trading, waiving and releasing some players over the summer. Provided that Hartman is gone to the AHL, Lorentz-Malysa-Sandlak gone as OAers, here is my list of players that I would look to get rid of by any means necessary.

1. Hiddink
2. Rathgeb
3. Addesi

I see nothing from these three that would persuade me to keep them.

Here is the the list of players that I wouldn't part with (not in any order).

1. Curcuruto
2. Ned
3. Peters
4. Chatham
5. Bowman
6. Vilardi
7. Vanderweil
8. Dunda
9. Sills

These players show offensive, defensive or leadership traits that are desirable. The way I look at it, there will be 6 or 7 new faces next year and I don't expect that they will all be rookies. We, as fans, have been spoiled by the success of so many years of making the playoffs consecutively. I hope we make it for the experience it will give our young guys. Our goaltending has been pretty good this year. Hopefully Bowman gets more starts. He deserves it. Ned needs a break. He has put in a ton of work this year. Lets hope that we steal a few down the stretch.
So you would part with Mistele?

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So you would part with Mistele?
That wasn't my list, but before the trade deadline I thought Mistele would have been a good candidate to trade away. He has regressed this year. Last season he seemed to benefit a lot from having a lot of talented players around him setting him up. With a much less talented team this year, he hasn't been able to generate much on his own.

If the team improves next season, Mistele may begin to produce more. However, his performance this season is really going to hurt his NHL draft stock this summer. He came into the season as a possible 1st round pick, and now is probably no better than a 4th rounder.

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Absolutely. If the return was good, why not? He played on a team last year where he had experienced talent all around him and he really shined. This year he has been out for a time dealing with concussion symptoms and has not really got going offensively. Might be time for a change. I like him, don't get me wrong, but we don't have the same talent level as last year and probably won't for another two years. I am sure that he won't go as high as previously predicted in the draft and staying here might not be something he wants to do (be part of rebuilding for his last 2 years in the OHL). Will we ever trade him? Probably not.

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At this point, I'm not sure Vilardi's shown enough to be drafted. He's small, and has not been much of an offensive threat so far. Of course, the entire team has struggled offensively this season, so he hasn't had much support on the ice, either. Maybe a team will take a late round flyer on him, but I wouldn't consider him much of an NHL prospect right now.
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I like Vilardi. He is really just starting to show signs of his offensive game. He won't be drafted or atleast I don't think he will be drafted. He will play his way into a free agent contract would be my guess if he continues to improve. It sounded like he got hosed in his development prior to coming to us. I expect big things from him next year.
Thanks for the answers guys.

How his skill level is? Like I said, he was so awesome when I saw him play younger. I believe he still have these pure skills.

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Thanks for the answers guys.

How his skill level is? Like I said, he was so awesome when I saw him play younger. I believe he still have these pure skills.
I can see skill set. He still has it. He really hasn't broken out of his shell yet. I think he is a late bloomer in junior hockey. I think he is going to be someone to watch next year. His play has really picked up after the holiday break.

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I can see skill set. He still has it. He really hasn't broken out of his shell yet. I think he is a late bloomer in junior hockey. I think he is going to be someone to watch next year. His play has really picked up after the holiday break.
I like Vilardi's skating ability and puck handling. Right now I think his biggest issue is his smaller stature and figuring out how to physically compete with the bigger players, as he seems to get knocked off the puck too easily. Some players figure it out -- Trocheck was small, but he didn't play small -- while others never do. It will be interesting to see how Vilardi progresses in this area next season.

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