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06-05-2013, 09:58 AM
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WWI Centennial

It will be next year and we've hit the century mark on signifagant pre-war events.

Mental Floss is doing a nice chronology.

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Some things are better not celebrated.

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Some things are better not celebrated.
It's not a celebration, it's a commemoration in memory of those who gave their lives.

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100 years? Wow. That war holds special significance for us here in Newfoundland. We where a country at that point and suffered a big loss to many of our soldiers, it can be read about right here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beaumon...dland_Memorial

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It's also a short shriftted event that deserves rexamination.

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Interesting. My great grandfather fought for the Austro-Hungarian Empire. He was Ukrainian. He survived the war only to afterwards fall into a river and die of pneumonia.

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It's not a celebration, it's a commemoration in memory of those who gave their lives.
Looking over the articles there, I don't see that purpose either.

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I'm sure that more than a few Commonwealth countries will particularly commemorate it, especially Australia and New Zealand around the time the anniversary of Gallipoli comes up due to the role the ANZAC played there, but not expecting much in the U.S. Kind of like a forgotten war in this country, like Korea.

Plus, we're not doing much for the 150th of the Civil War currently, a war which had an absolutely humongous impact on our history, outlook, constitutional development, society, psyche, etc., so that doesn't bode well for U.S. WWI commemorations.

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The US didn't get involved in the war until much later. I wouldn't expect anything there for another couple of years.

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We probably won't do anything here for 2014, probably the 11/11 "celebration" in 2018 will be a big one

Maybe there will be a few new movies made about it over the next few years, there aren't many good ones

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Canada will likely have a big commemoration for Vimy Ridge, Passchendaele, and the Hundred Days Offensive in 2017.

Could also see commemorations for the Second Battle of Ypres (2015) and the Somme (2016).

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I would argue that the First World War was the most tragic war in European history, and the most significant. Only rivaled by the Second World War, the French Revolutionary/Napoleonic War and the Thirty Years' War.

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World War I is one of the worst events in human history. A war that was fought over nothing and just so happened to be one of the most gruesome in history, and then to top it off the fallout of the war was botched even more than the lead up to the war.

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Lot's of marching too.

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World War I is one of the worst events in human history. A war that was fought over nothing and just so happened to be one of the most gruesome in history, and then to top it off the fallout of the war was botched even more than the lead up to the war.
Yep. Terrible politics to cause it, terrible military tactics, and more terrible politics after it to top it off.

So many men pointlessly sent to their death. Blackadder summed it up well:

"Field Marshal Haig has come up with a brilliant new tactical plan to ensure final victory in the field"
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"It's the same plan we used last time, and the seventeen times before that."
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Lot's of marching too.
I always wondered if anybody remembered that horrible essay I wrote. I sure did deserve all the ridicule I got from that.

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I heard the war started when a bloke called Archie Duke shot an ostrich because he was hungry

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Franz Ferdinand, the Black Hand, etc...etc...

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Yep. Terrible politics to cause it, terrible military tactics, and more terrible politics after it to top it off.

So many men pointlessly sent to their death. Blackadder summed it up well:

"Field Marshal Haig has come up with a brilliant new tactical plan to ensure final victory in the field"
"Would this brilliant plan involve us climbing out of our trenches and walking very slowly towards the enemy, sir?"
"How could you possibly know that Blackadder, it's classified information?!"
"It's the same plan we used last time, and the seventeen times before that."
"Exactly! And that is what is so brilliant about it! It will catch the watchful hun totally off guard. Doing what we've done seventeen times before, is exactly the last thing they will expect us to do this time!"
We are 100 years off the Balkan Wars (and a century of those being a lingering issue), where several of the foreign observers got a pretty good idea what the Great War would look like. Unfortunately they couldn't change the momentum built up by the powers in the Cult of the Offensive.

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We should celebrate the US saving Europe.

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Give or take Russia, Italy, Germany, the Balkans...

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We should celebrate the US saving Europe.
This again? The US helped ending the war, but they hardly saved Europe. The best thing that could've happened to Europe in that war was if Germany did not get outflanked in 1914. That would've made the war four years shorter and peace negotiations much less harsh.

Unlike the Second World War, this war was not "Good vs. Evil".

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This again? The US helped ending the war, but they hardly saved Europe. The best thing that could've happened to Europe in that war was if Germany did not get outflanked in 1914. That would've made the war four years shorter and peace negotiations much less harsh.
From an exclusively German perspective most likely. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk was anything but conciliatory.

Germany and the Entente being stalemated probably would have been a preferable outcome or Woodrow Wilson having the political savvy to insure the rest of the powers avoided using the settlement to pursue vendettas would have at least mitigated the next situation. The biggest mistake of this kind was the British keeping the blockade going until after the treaty was signed. No wonder Hitler found a willing audience in youth who were starving and flu addled during 1919.

As for "saving" Europe: With the exception of the brief Weimar middle between the hyperinflation and depression things weren't so great. Serbia expanded into a polyglotonous country that collapsed 70 years later. Russia was probably a lost cause by 1914, but no one can consider the Revolutions, Civil War, Red Terror, Collectivization famine and Purges as being "saved". Italy would eventually descend into fascism and Austria-Hungary ceased to exist.

On the good side the war brought self-determination to a fair amount of countries.

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Don't worry Krishna is just trolling and being ironic

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