HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

2013 NHL Entry Draft Talk 10.0

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-09-2013, 11:35 AM
  #601
niftymove
Registered User
 
niftymove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 350
vCash: 500
Quote:
It's about Button himself having 2 different opinions....says it all.
A good one!

niftymove is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 11:35 AM
  #602
ChemiseBleuHonnete
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 9,752
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by le_sean View Post
Put me down as someone else that would select Poirier ahead of Dauphin. Like WTK says, he has the better frame to fill out. He's a warrior and got much stronger as the season progressed.

Dauphin is good, but the Habs have a similar player in Hudon. Emile brings grit and two-way acumen. He tends to raise his level of play when the chips are down too.
Me too. My ideal trio for the 25h, 34th, 36th is :
#25 : Morin
#34 : Poirier
#36 : Dauphin

ChemiseBleuHonnete is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 11:36 AM
  #603
niftymove
Registered User
 
niftymove's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 350
vCash: 500
Quote:
Me too. My ideal trio for the 25h, 34th, 36th is :
#25 : Morin
#34 : Poirier
#36 : Dauphin
Would love it!

but my guess is Morin will burn the first round!

niftymove is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 11:45 AM
  #604
ChemiseBleuHonnete
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 9,752
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by niftymove View Post
Would love it!

but my guess is Morin will burn the first round!
Yeah, I know... He hope he falls to the 25th pick. As much as some people here would love to have a forward with our first pick, I think it doesn't matter too much. There isn't much of a difference between the forwards that will be available with our first and our second round picks. In Morin's case, he's like 6 foot 7 with good skating, excellent active stick, and he can fight (lol, jk)!. I think a player like him is muchhhh more valuable than any forward we could draft in the first. Imagine him and Tinordi in the line-up, given they develop nicely. That defence would be really hard to play against.

ChemiseBleuHonnete is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 11:45 AM
  #605
Steve Shutt
Don't Poke the Bear
 
Steve Shutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Country: Colombia
Posts: 548
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc the Habs Fan View Post
How did you get access to the combine results? Seems like delicate information for teams to make public.

Steve Shutt is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 11:47 AM
  #606
hogtownhabsfan*
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,731
vCash: 500
What are folks thoughts on Jason Dickinson. Big strong kid, who can skate, has good hands, and goes to the net. Has a developing nasty streak. Put up decent numbers for a young '95. Good rep defensively. Only real weakness I kind find in his game is a less than great shot.

I think he can develop into a complementary space maker in the top 6. Could be a steal in the 2nd round, and a possibility at 25.

Thoughts?

hogtownhabsfan* is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 11:54 AM
  #607
habs76sk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 38
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by S Bah View Post
I like both Dauphin and Klimchuk both could play on our team and I'd be really happy. They both give 100% every shift, Klimchuk is a better skater, Dauphin a better stickhandler, each are going to play in the NHL IMO.

The defencemen that standout for possible Habs, If we didn't have Subban, Beaulieu, Diaz and Bennett in the system, I would take Morrisey, Bowey* and Mueller. Morin is the Dman I want but Heatherington would be nice to have in the system also.
Quote:
Bowey is a good call if Morin is taken and Heatherington as well depends on which pick. Roy is a rover, he doesn't know what defence means, Theodore is great offensively too but not Bergevin's cup of java IMO. Diaby for sure if the Habs don't get Morin.

I also would not mind Morin, he has moved up many draft boards with his play this season. One question, why Mueller over a guy like Pulock? In addition, why is there so much differential on opinions on Pulock?

Diaby in the 3rd would be ok with me. Not before then. A bit of a project from what I hear and limited O-upside.

habs76sk is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:00 PM
  #608
katatoniak
Registered User
 
katatoniak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Jonquiere, Qc
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,381
vCash: 500
http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ael-Diaby.html

Diaby at 250 pounds for the combine.

Not a great hockey IQ but the MOAR size fans probably want us to draft him haha

katatoniak is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:03 PM
  #609
hogtownhabsfan*
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChemiseBleuHonnete View Post
Yeah, I know... He hope he falls to the 25th pick. As much as some people here would love to have a forward with our first pick, I think it doesn't matter too much. There isn't much of a difference between the forwards that will be available with our first and our second round picks. In Morin's case, he's like 6 foot 7 with good skating, excellent active stick, and he can fight (lol, jk)!. I think a player like him is muchhhh more valuable than any forward we could draft in the first. Imagine him and Tinordi in the line-up, given they develop nicely. That defence would be really hard to play against.
But that's the thing, Morin is basically just a poor mans Tinordi. Worse skating, and 3 years behind development wise. Both are Left D too, which just compounds their similarities.

I don't think we use our first on a worse version of a guy we already have.

In the 2nd round, sure!

hogtownhabsfan* is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:04 PM
  #610
Tyson
Registered User
 
Tyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Country: United States
Posts: 10,683
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChemiseBleuHonnete View Post
Me too. My ideal trio for the 25h, 34th, 36th is :
#25 : Morin
#34 : Poirier
#36 : Dauphin
That would be amazing.

Tyson is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:07 PM
  #611
hogtownhabsfan*
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by katatoniak View Post
http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ael-Diaby.html

Diaby at 250 pounds for the combine.

Not a great hockey IQ but the MOAR size fans probably want us to draft him haha
I'd rather Diaby in the middle/late rounds than Morin in the 1st that's for sure.

hogtownhabsfan* is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:09 PM
  #612
Steve Shutt
Don't Poke the Bear
 
Steve Shutt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Country: Colombia
Posts: 548
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by katatoniak View Post
http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ael-Diaby.html

Diaby at 250 pounds for the combine.

Not a great hockey IQ but the MOAR size fans probably want us to draft him haha
Nice - Love when they come from prof athlete families
Is he someone that will still be around in the third?

Steve Shutt is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:14 PM
  #613
Nedved
Registered User
 
Nedved's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,952
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by katatoniak View Post
http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...ael-Diaby.html

Diaby at 250 pounds for the combine.

Not a great hockey IQ but the MOAR size fans probably want us to draft him haha
if we draft anybody under 6'2'', in such a big body draft year, i'll be furious. no excuses gainey ...


Nedved is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:15 PM
  #614
ChoseLa
Registered User
 
ChoseLa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Country: Martinique
Posts: 5,718
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hogtownhabsfan View Post
But that's the thing, Morin is basically just a poor mans Tinordi. Worse skating, and 3 years behind development wise. Both are Left D too, which just compounds their similarities.

I don't think we use our first on a worse version of a guy we already have.

In the 2nd round, sure!
Not sure we could compare Morin to Tinordi that much. Morin actualy have offensive upside and doesn't even play the same kind of game as Tinordi.

ChoseLa is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:16 PM
  #615
Tyson
Registered User
 
Tyson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Texas
Country: United States
Posts: 10,683
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by hogtownhabsfan View Post
I'd rather Diaby in the middle/late rounds than Morin in the 1st that's for sure.
That is an interesting point. The kid is a project but 6'5 250 is has to overlook if he possesses the potential to improve.

Tyson is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:17 PM
  #616
otto bond
Registered User
 
otto bond's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,256
vCash: 500
What would be a realistic price for Habs to move in the top 10? Just not possible? I just would love for that big winger from Rus and he could make most team at of camp according to Craig.

otto bond is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:19 PM
  #617
WeThreeKings
Retired.
 
WeThreeKings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 52,296
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to WeThreeKings
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Shutt View Post
Nice - Love when they come from prof athlete families
Is he someone that will still be around in the third?
Diaby should only be considered late 3rd, IMO

Quote:
Originally Posted by hogtownhabsfan View Post
But that's the thing, Morin is basically just a poor mans Tinordi. Worse skating, and 3 years behind development wise. Both are Left D too, which just compounds their similarities.

I don't think we use our first on a worse version of a guy we already have.

In the 2nd round, sure!
Yup, Morin would be less than ideal.

Quote:
Originally Posted by habs76sk View Post
I also would not mind Morin, he has moved up many draft boards with his play this season. One question, why Mueller over a guy like Pulock? In addition, why is there so much differential on opinions on Pulock?

Diaby in the 3rd would be ok with me. Not before then. A bit of a project from what I hear and limited O-upside.
Pulock has an elite slapper and beyond that, what do you have? Not much else. Mueller does everything well, he's a minute eating defenseman with good size and a good stride, someone you can put out in any situation and get results.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hogtownhabsfan View Post
What are folks thoughts on Jason Dickinson. Big strong kid, who can skate, has good hands, and goes to the net. Has a developing nasty streak. Put up decent numbers for a young '95. Good rep defensively. Only real weakness I kind find in his game is a less than great shot.

I think he can develop into a complementary space maker in the top 6. Could be a steal in the 2nd round, and a possibility at 25.

Thoughts?
I obviosly like Dickinson but I also think you are underrating his shot and overrating his "mean" streak

WeThreeKings is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:25 PM
  #618
Crimson Skorpion
@CrimsonSkorpion
 
Crimson Skorpion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 33,977
vCash: 50
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by otto bond View Post
What would be a realistic price for Habs to move in the top 10? Just not possible? I just would love for that big winger from Rus and he could make most team at of camp according to Craig.
Realistically? Habs first and likely two of their three second picks. Moving from #25 to the top ten would take a lot.

Crimson Skorpion is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:25 PM
  #619
hogtownhabsfan*
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by WeThreeKings View Post
I obviosly like Dickinson but I also think you are underrating his shot and overrating his "mean" streak
My bad, mean more physical than nasty, as in he's not afraid to use his big body.

Is his shot good? I only downgraded it as I couldn't find any tape of him sniping one, all of his goals seemed to be within 5-6 feet from the net.

hogtownhabsfan* is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:27 PM
  #620
hogtownhabsfan*
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Toronto
Posts: 4,731
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Private Encounter View Post
Realistically? Habs first and likely two of their three second picks. Moving from #25 to the top ten would take a lot.
For Nichushkin, I'd think about it. I consider him an elite first line winger type. He and Galchenyuk would tear the league a new one.

hogtownhabsfan* is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:29 PM
  #621
WeThreeKings
Retired.
 
WeThreeKings's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Halifax
Country: Canada
Posts: 52,296
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to WeThreeKings
Quote:
Originally Posted by hogtownhabsfan View Post
My bad, mean more physical than nasty, as in he's not afraid to use his big body.

Is his shot good? I only downgraded it as I couldn't find any tape of him sniping one, all of his goals seemed to be within 5-6 feet from the net.


Look at 1 minute to 2.. couple snipes right in a row, that show good power, could stand for a quicker release but there's power and accuracy there.

WeThreeKings is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:31 PM
  #622
habs76sk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 38
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChemiseBleuHonnete View Post
Originally Posted by le_sean
Put me down as someone else that would select Poirier ahead of Dauphin. Like WTK says, he has the better frame to fill out. He's a warrior and got much stronger as the season progressed.

Dauphin is good, but the Habs have a similar player in Hudon. Emile brings grit and two-way acumen. He tends to raise his level of play when the chips are down too.

Me too. My ideal trio for the 25h, 34th, 36th is :
#25 : Morin
#34 : Poirier
#36 : Dauphin
If Poirer brings it when the chips are down, what does Dauphin do? I mean a goal and assist in the gold medal game at the U-18s isn't too shabby.

My list is currently:

25 - Morin, Dauphin, Klimchuk, Morrissey, Pulock, Horvat
34 - Any of the remaining from above, plus Bowey and Poirer and Petan
36 - Any of the remaining from above, plus Dickinson, Theodore, and Bailey

Neeedless to say, I really like a lot of prospects in this draft and really like where our three picks position us.

habs76sk is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:34 PM
  #623
otto bond
Registered User
 
otto bond's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,256
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Private Encounter View Post
Realistically? Habs first and likely two of their three second picks. Moving from #25 to the top ten would take a lot.
Hmmm interesting, not as steep has I tough.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hogtownhabsfan View Post
For Nichushkin, I'd think about it. I consider him an elite first line winger type. He and Galchenyuk would tear the league a new one.
Drooooolllllll. Add Gallagher to that line
Ok back to reality.

otto bond is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:34 PM
  #624
Bob b smith
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Country: Canada
Posts: 9,828
vCash: 500
From another team's draft board:

"It'll be interesting to see what kind of impact to the draft Calgary and Columbus will have. Both teams could really throw a wrench into which players are available late in the draft if they use their second picks on players they need instead of BPA (Fucale for Calgary and Morin/Mantha types for both)."

A reminder Calgary and Columbus have 3 First each... Calgary 6, 22, 28... Columbus 14, 19, 27...

Bob b smith is offline  
Old
06-09-2013, 12:36 PM
  #625
habs76sk
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 38
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by habs76sk
I also would not mind Morin, he has moved up many draft boards with his play this season. One question, why Mueller over a guy like Pulock? In addition, why is there so much differential on opinions on Pulock?

Diaby in the 3rd would be ok with me. Not before then. A bit of a project from what I hear and limited O-upside.

Pulock has an elite slapper and beyond that, what do you have? Not much else. Mueller does everything well, he's a minute eating defenseman with good size and a good stride, someone you can put out in any situation and get results.


Pulock is a good skater that can play physical... He has some developing to do but his upside is pretty large.. Mueller doesn't have as much upside from my understanding

habs76sk is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:11 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2017 All Rights Reserved.