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06-10-2013, 11:40 AM
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Off-season game plan: Winnipeg jets

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He is right about pretty much everything.

Bogo trade talk was the only thing that stood out.

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So... the numbers say Pavalec delivered essentially "replacement level" performance... big surprise.

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He is right about pretty much everything.

Bogo trade talk was the only thing that stood out.
Can't (or won't) believe the Jets would be entertaining Bogo trade talks. Chevy would have to receive a king's ransom in return, if he moved Bogo.

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What about trading Buff, Burmi and the 13th pick to Florida for the 2nd overall pick and someone.

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What about trading Buff, Burmi and the 13th pick to Florida for the 2nd overall pick and someone.

Would Jets want that yes, would Florida do that no.
It would take Bogo, Burmi and the 13th pick and they will think about it and they could say no.

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Would you guys do the Buff / Burmi / 13th deal for Duchene? I feel Mackinnon projects as a similar player in the NHL but Duchene probably has higher value. If I'm dealing that package I think I'd want something more proven than Mackinnon. That package gets you a Eberle+, Skinner+ type package.

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Would you guys do the Buff / Burmi / 13th deal for Duchene? I feel Mackinnon projects as a similar player in the NHL but Duchene probably has higher value. If I'm dealing that package I think I'd want something more proven than Mackinnon. That package gets you a Eberle+, Skinner+ type package.
In a "Value of" Buff thread on the trade boards, a Carolina fan proposed Skinner for Buff, straight up. Which I would do in a heartbeat

Skinner had a down year, I think his stock fell a little bit.

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One thing that I never seem to see, is O'Dell moving up to the big show. I think he deserves a shot.

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He is right about pretty much everything.

Bogo trade talk was the only thing that stood out.
I thought mentioning Burmi wants out three times was a little over the top given there's been no independent confirmation of that from Burmi or his agent, but otherwise agree.

Burmi is a decent trade chip, but I'm still not keen to see him go.

I think I'd blocked out how much Olli was being paid. So what are we going to offer Little based on that? Less? Compared to Olli that 0.67 ppg looks awfully damn good.

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He is right about pretty much everything.

Bogo trade talk was the only thing that stood out.
I read that as just the writer's opinion, not that there's been actual talk.

I was a little worried last trade deadline, hearing the rumour that talks between the Jets and Sens for a defenseman fell apart, since the Sens (at least fans/media) have always been after Bogosian (Massena, NY is the closest border town to Ottawa). But that was just Oduya

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One thing that I never seem to see, is O'Dell moving up to the big show. I think he deserves a shot.
He will get a chance. Waiver eligibility is likely the deciding factor there.

Same deal as Postma last year.

Not sure why that gets ignired by all the paid media types.

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Would you guys do the Buff / Burmi / 13th deal for Duchene? I feel Mackinnon projects as a similar player in the NHL but Duchene probably has higher value. If I'm dealing that package I think I'd want something more proven than Mackinnon. That package gets you a Eberle+, Skinner+ type package.
I would think really hard about that would do it, Buff is likely to be a 50-60 point D-Man and Burmi can be a 3-4th liner to a selke trophy winner and the 13th pick can be anything. What do you fellas think?

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He will get a chance. Waiver eligibility is likely the deciding factor there.

Same deal as Postma last year.

Not sure why that gets ignired by all the paid media types.
So he will likely get a cup of tea next season, and the season after that is when he should stick.

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I would think really hard about that would do it, Buff is likely to be a 50-60 point D-Man and Burmi can be a 3-4th liner to a selke trophy winner and the 13th pick can be anything. What do you fellas think?

And we have Mark Scheifele in the fold, we need more of a Right Wing.

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Would you guys do the Buff / Burmi / 13th deal for Duchene? I feel Mackinnon projects as a similar player in the NHL but Duchene probably has higher value. If I'm dealing that package I think I'd want something more proven than Mackinnon. That package gets you a Eberle+, Skinner+ type package.
I think adding the 13th makes it a little too much from our end.

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Wonder what Chevy would be looking for IF he did move Buff?
A young center on the verge of breaking through, like Schenn or Stepan, or a scoring winger like Voracek or Skinner? Or maybe a defensive LH dman like McDonough or Alzner?

Would a Stepan, McDonough, +? for Buff and Burmi work?

A McDonough/Bogo shut down 1st pairing looks pretty nice for Jets.

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06-10-2013, 12:59 PM
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And we have Mark Scheifele in the fold, we need more of a Right Wing.

Well Matt can play wing, could Kane-Scheifele-Duchene(would the Avs trade him in division) work or
Kane-Scheifele-Jeff Skinner(could he be had for less than his trade value).

Duchene can play wing

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So he will likely get a cup of tea next season, and the season after that is when he should stick.
It will be up to him to perform, but his contract status should definitely help.

If they lose him on waivers without giving him a shot, I'd be mighty sad.

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Wonder what Chevy would be looking for IF he did move Buff?
A young center on the verge of breaking through, like Schenn or Stepan, or a scoring winger like Voracek or Skinner? Or maybe a defensive LH dman like McDonough or Alzner?

Would a Stepan, McDonough, +? for Buff and Burmi work?

A McDonough/Bogo shut down 1st pairing looks pretty nice for Jets.

I think for the Jets it works but does it work the Rangers. I would do it(assuming Stepan or Schiefle can play right wing). McDonough would be nice.

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I think adding the 13th makes it a little too much from our end.

This where my spilt Huffer and would Avs deal Duchene inside their conference and to a rival.

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Wonder what Chevy would be looking for IF he did move Buff?
A young center on the verge of breaking through, like Schenn or Stepan, or a scoring winger like Voracek or Skinner? Or maybe a defensive LH dman like McDonough or Alzner?

Would a Stepan, McDonough, +? for Buff and Burmi work?

A McDonough/Bogo shut down 1st pairing looks pretty nice for Jets.
I'd do that deal. I doubt the Rags would though. Burmi may have some value, but it's not close to Stepan who lead the Rangers in pts this year. They are VERY high on McD. So I don't think they would be adding, in their opinion anyways. I'd love for them to add!

Anyway, I have a feeling that Chevy is going to be busy on free agency and that is really about it. I we go by Scott Cullen's model He has Bogo sliding over to the Left side...I've only ever played street hockey so I don't really know how that would affect his game. I could definitely see him targeting Stalberg with the Chi-town connection as well as a guy like Mason Raymond who spent a while here with the Moose. Both would make our roster better and more complete.

I go back and forth on Buff. Sometimes I think yes we should trade him...but in the same breath I don't think Trouba/Red/Post are really ready for the top four in an extended time period yet.

Khudobin would be a great pick up, but so would a guy like Emery. It would be great to have someone like that to not only push Pavy, but to mentor him as well.

I didn't know Hellebycuk was playing so well. That's promising for sure.

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I think for the Jets it works but does it work the Rangers. I would do it(assuming Stepan or Schiefle can play right wing). McDonough would be nice.
Not sure it the Rangers have any interest in Buff, but Stepan and McD would sure help the Jets. .

Both are RFAs and will be in line for considerable raises, that will be tough for the Rangers to do, unless they do buy out Richards. But will they try to sign Clowe, too?

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Wonder what Chevy would be looking for IF he did move Buff?
A young center on the verge of breaking through, like Schenn or Stepan, or a scoring winger like Voracek or Skinner? Or maybe a defensive LH dman like McDonough or Alzner?

Would a Stepan, McDonough, +? for Buff and Burmi work?

A McDonough/Bogo shut down 1st pairing looks pretty nice for Jets.
then offense from the back end comes from...Enstrom and Redmond?
Yikes.
I'm not a huge fan of Buff, but it also is hard to ignore the things he CAN do.
i kind of want to part with Stuart

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I'd do that deal. I doubt the Rags would though. Burmi may have some value, but it's not close to Stepan who lead the Rangers in pts this year. They are VERY high on McD. So I don't think they would be adding, in their opinion anyways. I'd love for them to add!

Anyway, I have a feeling that Chevy is going to be busy on free agency and that is really about it. I we go by Scott Cullen's model He has Bogo sliding over to the Left side...I've only ever played street hockey so I don't really know how that would affect his game. I could definitely see him targeting Stalberg with the Chi-town connection as well as a guy like Mason Raymond who spent a while here with the Moose. Both would make our roster better and more complete.

I go back and forth on Buff. Sometimes I think yes we should trade him...but in the same breath I don't think Trouba/Red/Post are really ready for the top four in an extended time period yet.

Khudobin would be a great pick up, but so would a guy like Emery. It would be great to have someone like that to not only push Pavy, but to mentor him as well.

I didn't know Hellebycuk was playing so well. That's promising for sure.

Hopefully Chevy does something to really improve this team and not Bandages.

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