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06-22-2013, 09:34 PM
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Canucks Flyers

Canucks send
Kevin Bieksa and Zach Kassian <5.4 cap hit>
to Philadelphia for
Wayne Simmonds and Nicklas Grossman <7.4 cap hit>

with Bryz and Luongo maybe something else can be worked out

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06-22-2013, 09:36 PM
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Canucks send
Kevin Bieksa and Zach Kassian <5.4 cap hit>
to Philadelphia for
Wayne Simmonds and Nicklas Grossman <7.4 cap hit>

with Bryz and Luongo maybe something else can be worked out
Don't want to trade simmonds. There aren't many guys like him around the league. And i definitely don't want luongo with that contract. If you buy him out then we might have interest in him.

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Probably fair value-wise but I'd pass from a Flyers POV. Bieksa isn't that much of an upgrade over Grossman and the best we could hope Kassian to develop into a guy like Simmonds is right now.

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Flyers give up the best player and arguably the 2nd best player for $2,000,000 in less cap.

No thanks.

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I'll just say no and walk away.

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Don't want to trade simmonds. There aren't many guys like him around the league. And i definitely don't want luongo with that contract. If you buy him out then we might have interest in him.
He isn't a Canucks fan fyi, seems like he's just a Rangers fan high on KB

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He isn't a Canucks fan fyi, seems like he's just a Rangers fan high on KB
Perhaps my avatar indicates my team yeh ? although maybe because its the BC born Beck you might wonder about it

actually not so high on KB

Just seeing if the Canucks can find their winger for the Sedins


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Not big on the deal as a Canucks fan either.

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06-22-2013, 11:17 PM
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I'd pass as a Canucks fan.

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Value's there but I'm not interested. At this stage I would rather see if Bieksa rebounds.

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06-22-2013, 11:30 PM
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I'd consider it as a Canucks fan. Don't know if I'd pull the trigger.

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Terrible for Philly, don't know how any Van fans say they are hesitant to do that kind of deal

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Terrible for Philly, don't know how any Van fans say they are hesitant to do that kind of deal
How about you not ridicule fans who actually follow a team that decide if a trade is good for them or not?

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06-23-2013, 01:44 AM
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Flyers get worse in this deal.

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Kass is risky, he may or may not flourish. I don't like the risk personally, all aboard the Wayne Train.

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Vancouver would value Simmonds as highly as the Flyers do. We would not value Grossman at all near the way the Flyers do.
N to the poster calling Bieksa only a slight upgrade over Grossman is just asinine. You can keep your tree on skate who has no lateral movement or offence to speak of. We'll keep our 40 point 25 mins a night Dman thank you very much.

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Vancouver would value Simmonds as highly as the Flyers do. We would not value Grossman at all near the way the Flyers do.
N to the poster calling Bieksa only a slight upgrade over Grossman is just asinine. You can keep your tree on skate who has no lateral movement or offence to speak of. We'll keep our 40 point 25 mins a night Dman thank you very much.
Grossmann is a solid defensemen. Above average and one of the best positional defensemen Ive seen in years. Well keep Simmonds too, hopefully Kassian turns out half as good as him for you guys. See how easy that was?

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Grossmann is a solid defensemen. Above average and one of the best positional defensemen Ive seen in years. Well keep Simmonds too, hopefully Kassian turns out half as good as him for you guys. See how easy that was?
Snark aside, this is a weird trade. Value isn't terrible but I don't know why either team does it.

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the rationale was that Philly needs to cut salary and address the blueline.

Yes the Flyers lose Simmonds but they get Bieksa and Kassian would be a fan favorite in Philly before long. Grossman allows the Canucks to retain a solid positioning dman who can clear the crease who also happens to be a Swede.

Canucks get their Sedin wingman

was just musing so I thought I would post it

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The Flyers do not have a salary issue. We don't need you to help us.

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06-23-2013, 11:29 PM
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Yes from a Vancouver perspective. Philadelphia says no though. Simmonds is worth too much to them.

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Bieksa > Grossman
Simmonds >> Kassian
Cap Space >> No Cap Space

Desperation move from Philly, and I don't think they're in that stage yet. Should be a yes from Vancouver, they're one of the few teams with enough defensive depth to make a trade like this and still bully most other teams on the backend.

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06-23-2013, 11:40 PM
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the rationale was that Philly needs to cut salary and address the blueline.

Yes the Flyers lose Simmonds but they get Bieksa and Kassian would be a fan favorite in Philly before long. Grossman allows the Canucks to retain a solid positioning dman who can clear the crease who also happens to be a Swede.

Canucks get their Sedin wingman

was just musing so I thought I would post it
Hmmm? What happened to Burrows?

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