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Hey Everyone! This is going to be a much shorter read then in previous years despite it being my favorite draft in a long time. I want to apologize for the delay in this years rankings and the lack of content. I actually completed most of my player profiles back in May but unfortunately lost them due to computer problems. I love doing this in my spare time but simply don't have the time to redo all of the profiles that I had previously done. I am not a professional scout and have real life obligations that take priority. Believe it or not, but I usually put 100's of hours of work in this and it's impossible to recreate on such short notice. If you have any questions about the rankings or a particular player, please feel free to ask and I will do my best to answer your questions. Once again, I apologize and promise to try that much harder next year.
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I can't believe that it has already been an entire year since the 2012 NHL Draft in Pittsburgh. I hope that this draft guide lives up to expectations this year! This guide is just something that I like to do for myself to educate myself on the 50 best prospects eligible for the draft. I'm not here to convince anyone that a certain player is better than another prospect. Please feel free to come up with your own opinions and challenge your fellow board members to get the conversation going! I like to think of this as more of a compilation of information that will bring posters that don't have a chance to watch minor hockey a better understanding of this years top prospects. This is a hell of a draft year, so lets get started with an overview.

With the NHL lockout this year, the standings are significantly different then last year. Several teams that were in the playoffs last year are now drafting in the top 10, while the same is true for teams that have been stuck in the basement. Lets take a look at the Montreal Canadiens for example. Montreal selected Alex Galchenyuk 3rd overall last year and finished at the top of their division. It will be interesting to see where teams view themselves and how it will reflect their draft decisions. Will they remain patient because of one good/bad season or decide that they have finally turned the corner. The Edmonton Oilers are hoping that they fall in the latter but does that mean that they will move their pick come June 30th?

I'm really excited for this draft due to the high end talent and the depth of the 1st and second rounds. This is easily the best draft we have seen in a long time. I would compare the top of this draft to 2006 with the resemblances being uncanny. It is likely that a defenceman will go first overall while numerous franchise changing centers selected right after. However, that is where the comparison to 2006 ends. The rest of the first and second round have drawn comparisons to the infamous 2003 draft. I could see potential first line players or top pairing defencemen drafted late in the first round. The second round will also help separate this draft from years previous. Most years, I can slide some prospects into my top 50 that are "long shots" into making the NHL because of the lack of quality prospects. However, in 2013 I've had problems just trying to keep several can't miss prospects outside my top 50. Although it is unlikely that it will have the same impact as 2003, this is the closest a draft has come to matching the 2003 pedigree. The 2013 draft is full of interesting prospects and high scoring forwards.

How then, how does this draft breakdown? Well, it appears that their is a general consensus that the first player in this years draft is Seth Jones. That is where my first black line starts separating players. If a team is already stacked on defense, a guy like Nathan MacKinnon or Jonathan Drouin could potentially go first overall. Having said that, I think a team would be very unwise to pass on a generational talent like Seth Jones . After Jones, my next thick black line comes after the top 8. Aleksander Barkov, Elias Lindholm, Sean Monahan, Darnell Nurse and Valeri Nichushkin have really separated themselves from the rest of the draft. In previous years, they would all be locks for the top 5. You could argue that a few other prospects sort of round out the top 10-12 prospects. After that, I think their is another group of players of guys that will go between 12 and 25. These are players that I would normally say are "top 10" players in their draft year. Frederic Gauthier, Curtis Lazar, Bo Horvat, etc. are all deserving of this title. These are guys that aren't as complete/polished as the other players mentioned but could turn out to be the best player in the draft.. After that, I have several players from 25-35 range could go inside the top 20 if a team liked that player enough. That leads me to my next and final thick black line- around 50. These are all players that I believe could be taken in the first round.
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1. Comparisons: I'm not a huge fan of comparing players for two reasons. One, each player styles their game after a bunch of other different players. Just because a guy models his game after someone, doesn't mean that he is a carbon copy. Still, it gives the average fan a very broad look of what style of player you are looking at. If a player is being compared to Scott Niedermayer, it doesn't mean he will be the next Niedermayer. It just means that they play a similar style. Secondly, just because something is similar between players, doesn't mean that everything is similar between players. If I were to compare Matt Dumba to PK Subban, it is only limited to his style of game. It doesn't mean that he has character issues like Subban does.

2. Projections: I tend to focus on how good a player is projected to be in a few years time rather than how good they are right now. I would rather draft a player that has shown proven in their development rather than a player that has peaked physically and won't be able to translate their game to the NHL level. Although this might seem like a simple point, it one that is often overlooked. Scouts tend to fall in love with those gritty players that have size and toughness but lack NHL skill. If I think two players are similar, I take the player that has better offensive instincts. A player can learn defense a lot easier than they can learn offense. Not that its easy to learn defense but I would rather have a guy that I have to control rather than a kid I have to motivate. If a player is pegged as a third line checker, he would have to have very little risk in his game to be considered above a guy who is projected to be a top 6 scorer.

3. Understanding Fallacies: One major fallacy that scouts have is basing their decisions on prior drafts and rankings. They say something like "Nikita Filatov was drafted 6th overall and didn't pan out. Theirs no way I take a Russian in the top 10" yet other highly touted Russian have been taken inside the top like like Alexander Ovechkin, Evgeni Malkin and Ilya Kovalchuck. On the flip side, lots of non-russian players have busted. Yes, Russians can go back to Russia but saying they are a bust because they are Russian is just simply not true.

4. Best Player Available: I always found this to be a term that people use in false dilemmas. They try and polarize BPA from need. Rather, team dynamics, depth charts systems, mentors, etc all play important parts of a kids development. Some players play better under different situations. Now clearly, you don't pass on a guy you feel is on a completely different level. I would be furious if we passed on Evgeni Malkin for Cam Barker. Clearly Malkin is the better player. Having said that, I think its unfair to compare Grigorenko with Malkin and Murray with Barker. Murray doesn't have the character issues that Barker has and Grigorenko isn't as good as Malkin. Teams have been drafting much more on need as of late but shouldn't do so when guys start to fall of the gap is significant. Obviously everyone's perception of gaps is different so BPA seems to be somewhat subjective.

5. Playoffs: One of the biggest mistakes scouts make is the emphasis on playoffs. I'm not saying that they aren't a good measuring stick but they aren't the be all end all. The fact is many players are taken high in their draft year to teams that are at the bottom of the league. I mean look at Edmonton, we have a ton of talent that hasn't made the playoffs. Would you take Zack Kassian over Taylor Hall because he is going to the playoffs? Obviously not. Also, the sample size of playoff games for most teams is incredibly small. What if that player just doesn't match up well against the other team? I think scouts are often late to the show for some players (fail to watch them all year) and their basis is entirely on playoff production.

2012: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=915727
2011: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...d.php?t=915727
2010: http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=780117




RankPlayerTSNCSSTHNISSCBRRFCMKLWHPPOSSHHTWTDOBCURRENT TEAM
01 Seth Jones 021NA010201X010103X D R 6.04 208 Oct 3, 1994 Portland (WHL)
02 Nate MacKinnon 012NA030103X020202X C R 6.00 182 Sep 1, 1995 Halifax (QMJHL)
03 Jonathan Drouin 033NA020302X030301X LW L 5.10 182 Mar 27, 1995 Halifax (QMJHL)
04 Aleksander Barkov 041EU060504X040504X C L 6.03 207 Sep 2, 1995 Tappara (FIN)
05 Elias Lindholm 053EU040709X060405X C R 6.00 181 Dec 2, 1994 Brynas (SWE)
06 Sean Monahan 075NA070906X081106X C L 6.03 193 Oct 12, 1994 Ottawa (OHL)
07 Valeri Nichushkin 062EU050405X050608X RW L 6.04 191 Mar 4, 1995 Chelyabinsk (RUS)
08 Darnell Nurse 094NA080608X070810X D L 6.04 194 Feb 4, 1995 Sault Ste Marie (OHL)
09 Rasmus Ristolainen 084EU221125X122109X D R 6.04 196 Oct 27, 1994 TPS Turku (FIN)
10 Nikita Zadorov 1122NA140811X110712X D L 6.03 205 Apr 15, 1995 London (OHL)
11 Ryan Pulock 2312NA101430X141507X D R 6.01 201 Oct 6, 1994 Brandon (WHL)
12 Hunter Shinkaruk 146NA231314X092211X LW L 5.11 175 Oct 13, 1994 Medicine Hat (WHL)
13 Bo Horvat 1315NA161019X231419X C L 6.00 198 Apr 5, 1995 London (OHL)
14 Frederic Gauthier 228NA301821X162321X C L 6.05 210 Apr 26, 1995 Rimouski (QMJHL)
15 Curtis Lazar 1820NA091232X171220X C R 6.00 189 Feb 2, 1995 Edmonton (WHL)
16 Anthony Mantha 1510NA242416X182414X LW L 6.04 200 Sep 16, 1994 Val D-or (QMJHL)
17 Max Domi 1019NA152510X100913X C L 5.10 192 Mar 2, 1995 London (OHL)
18 Josh Morrissey 2827NA192115X151815X D L 6.00 184 Mar 28, 1995 Prince Albert (WHL)
19 Alex Wennberg 125EU111512X131318X LW L 6.00 173 Sep 22, 1994 Djurgardens (SWE)
20 Valentin Zykov 257NA311937X193228X RW R 6.01 214 May 15, 1995 Baie Comeau (QMJHL)
21 Adam Erne 2026NA13X20X282016X RW L 6.00 206 Apr 20, 1995 Quebec (QMJHL)
22 Kerby Rychel 2117NA212027X262522X LW L 6.01 200 Oct 7, 1994 Windsor (OHL)
23 Ryan Hartman 2616NA28X26X223626X RW R 5.11 187 Sep 20, 1994 Plymouth (OHL)
24 Shea Theodore 4411NA46X47X204933X D L 6.01 170 Aug 3, 1995 Seattle (WHL)
25 Mirco Mueller 169NA18X40XX1731X D L 6.03 185 Mar 21, 1995 Everett (WHL)
26 Robert Hagg 278EU12X48X241923X D L 6.02 204 Feb 8, 1995 Modo (SWE)
27 Madison Bowey 3632NA442224XX3529X D R 6.01 194 Apr 22, 1995 Kelowna (WHL)
28 Samuel Morin 1723NA20X13XX1036X D L 6.07 200 Jul 12, 1995 Rimouski (QMJHL)
29 JT Compher 3534NA412634X295617X C R 5.11 184 Apr 8, 1995 USNDT (USHL)
30 Andre Burakovsky 246EU171658X251625X RW L 6.01 176 Feb 9, 1995 Malmo (SWE)
31 Mike McCarron 3435NA2723NAXX33XX RW R 6.05 227 Mar 7, 1995 USNDT (USHL)
32 Jason Dickinson 3130NA35X28XX3438X LW L 6.01 165 Jul 4, 1995 Guelph (OHL)
33 Dillon Heatherington 4731NA452739XX4451X D L 6.02 185 May 9, 1995 Swift Current (WHL)
34 Steve Santini 4247NA651731XX4139X D R 6.02 207 Mar 7, 1995 USNDT (USHL)
35 Ian McCoshen 3924NA262838XX2937X D L 6.02 210 Aug 5, 1995 Waterloo (USHL)
36 Justin Bailey 4538NA34X51XX4041X RW R 6.04 182 Jul 1, 1995 Kitchener (OHL)
37 Chris Bigras 3214NA333035XX2740X D L 6.00 189 Feb 22, 1995 Owen Sound (OHL)
38 Nic Petan 3333NA422917X274627X C L 5.09 165 Mar 22, 1995 Portland (WHL)
39 Morgan Klimchuk 3025NA38X18X214232X C L 5.11 180 Mar 2, 1995 Regina (WHL)
40 Tristan Jarry 403NA682G50XX65XX G L 6.01 175 Apr 29, 1995 Edmonton (WHL)
41 Thomas Vannelli 4844NA37XNAXX30XX D R 6.02 165 Jan 26, 1995 Minnetonka (High-MN)
42 Jacob De la Rose 297EU29X57XX3134X C L 6.02 183 May 20, 1995 Leksands (SWE)
43 Laurent Dauphin 3828NA66X22XX3743X C L 6.00 166 Mar 26, 1995 Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
44 Oliver Bjorkstrand 5236NA53X55XX4849X LW R 5.11 164 Apr 10, 1995 Portland (WHL)
45 Zachary Fucale 191NA251G07XX2824X G L 6.00 166 May 28, 1995 Halifax (QMJHL)
46 Artturi Lehkonen 439EU36X23XX3930X RW L 5.10 163 Jul 4, 1995 Kalpa (FIN)
47 Connor Hurley 5745NA48X44X305050X C L 6.01 174 Sep 15, 1995 Edina High (High-MN)
48 Zach Nastasiuk 5113NA39X46XX51XX RW R 6.02 191 Mar 30, 1995 Owen Sound (OHL)
49 William Carrier 5018NA51XNAXX5445X LW L 6.00 205 Dec 20, 1994 Cape Breton (QMJHL)
50 Ryan Kujawinski HM63NA69X75XX73XX C L 6.02 202 Mar 30, 1995 Kingston (OHL)

*Rankings will be added as they are released. Updated heights and weights will also be changed once the official information is given. If you have any rankings that would like to be added or have purchased a guide with the complete rankings, please PM me and I will add them.

Mock Draft
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1Colorado AvalancheSeth Jones
2Florida PanthersNathan MacKinnon
3Tampa Bay LightningJonathan Drouin
4Nashville PredatorsAleksander Barkov
5Carolina HurricanesValeri Nichushkin
6Calgary FlamesElias Lindholm
7Edmonton OilersSean Monahan
8Buffalo SabresRasmus Ristolainen
9New Jersey Devils Nikita Zadorov
10Dallas StarsHunter Shinkaruk
11Philadelphia FlyersDarnell Nurse
12Phoenix CoyotesBo Horvat
13Winnipeg JetsMax Domi
14Columbus Blue JacketsFrederik Gauthier
15New York IslandersRyan Pulock
16Buffalo SabresAdam Erne
17Detroit Red WingsCurtis Lazar
18Ottawa SenatorsAlexander Wennberg
19Columbus Blue JacketsAnthony Mantha
20San Jose SharksRyan Hartman
21Toronto Maple LeafsKerby Rychel
22Washington CapitalsJoshua Morrissey
23Columbus Blue JacketsMirco Mueller
24Vancouver CanucksAndre Burakowsky
25Calgary FlamesSamuel Morin
26Dallas Stars Madison Bowey
27Montreal Canadiens Valentin Zykov
28Anaheim Ducks JT Compher
29Calgary FlamesZach Fucale
30Chicago BlackhawksNic Petan
31Florida PanthersShea Theodore
32Colorado AvalancheJason Dickinson
33Tampa Bay LightningRobert Hagg
34Montreal CanadiensMorgan Klimchuk
35Carolina HurricanesJustin Bailey
36Montreal CanadiensIan McCoshen
37Edmonton OilersMike McCarron

I included McKeens.


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Power move, dnicks. Competely ignoring s7ark's pre-emptive strike thread. Ruthless.

Now to plot your move against the iron throne.


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Power move, dnicks. Competely ignoring s7ark's pre-emptive strike thread.

Now to plot your move against the iron throne.
Oops. Didn't see his thread.

I think I just lost the support of the (Kar)s7arks. I don't like where my story arc is going.

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Total boss move. I hate you, but respect it. Of course now we're enemies.

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New mock drafts from nhl.com came out today. How bad are the guys they've got writing these???

Kimelman-Oil pick Nichushkin with Lindholm still on the board, Zadorov goes 24th.
Morreale-Oil pick Ristolainen with Lindholm AND Monahan still on the board.
Hoffner-Oil pick Nurse with Lindholm still on the board. Ristolainen goes 20th, Zadorov goes 23rd. Doesn't have Lazar as a first round pick.

I know everyone has a right to their own opinion, but these just blow my mind.

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New mock drafts from nhl.com came out today. How bad are the guys they've got writing these???

Kimelman-Oil pick Nichushkin with Lindholm still on the board, Zadorov goes 24th.
Morreale-Oil pick Ristolainen with Lindholm AND Monahan still on the board.
Hoffner-Oil pick Nurse with Lindholm still on the board. Ristolainen goes 20th, Zadorov goes 23rd. Doesn't have Lazar as a first round pick.

I know everyone has a right to their own opinion, but these just blow my mind.
IATL isn't going to be happy that Lazar was 27th, 27th an outside the first round.

Also thanks for putting my rankings in the first post!

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New mock drafts from nhl.com came out today. How bad are the guys they've got writing these???

Kimelman-Oil pick Nichushkin with Lindholm still on the board, Zadorov goes 24th.
Morreale-Oil pick Ristolainen with Lindholm AND Monahan still on the board.
Hoffner-Oil pick Nurse with Lindholm still on the board. Ristolainen goes 20th, Zadorov goes 23rd. Doesn't have Lazar as a first round pick.

I know everyone has a right to their own opinion, but these just blow my mind.
I would take most of the mock drafts on HF over these three guys. Not good. Not good at all.

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2012 mock drafts from those 3 "experts" at NHL.com...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=80918
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=80917
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=80921

Basically dartboard type results.

Take all mock drafts with a pillar of salt. I agree, collectively the mock drafts here on HFboards are just as good if not better than most "experts".

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2012 mock drafts from those 3 "experts" at NHL.com...

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=80918
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=80917
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=80921

Basically dartboard type results.

Take all mock drafts with a pillar of salt. I agree, collectively the mock drafts here on HFboards are just as good if not better than most "experts".
I guess I sit corrected. Those aren't as bad as I would have expected...although Morealle had Reinhart at 14 and Lindholm at 23.

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I'm a Leafs fan who's been lurking your board for Eakins, but I just wanted to say that I really like these rankings and the taste in music in here.

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I'm a Leafs fan who's been lurking your board for Eakins, but I just wanted to say that I really like these rankings and the taste in music in here.
You get good at learning about prospects when all you have to look forward to every year is an early draft selection.


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New mock drafts from nhl.com came out today. How bad are the guys they've got writing these???

Kimelman-Oil pick Nichushkin with Lindholm still on the board, Zadorov goes 24th.
Morreale-Oil pick Ristolainen with Lindholm AND Monahan still on the board.
Hoffner-Oil pick Nurse with Lindholm still on the board. Ristolainen goes 20th, Zadorov goes 23rd. Doesn't have Lazar as a first round pick.

I know everyone has a right to their own opinion, but these just blow my mind.
Every year these guys put out their lists and every year they suck. Button is way better than these guys and he's mediocre when it comes to rankings. It'll be nice when Bob McKenzie's rankings finally come out to see where guys are projected after number 10.

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Yeah DIO I'll second that, thanks for the tunes.

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I'm a Leafs fan who's been lurking your board for Eakins, but I just wanted to say that I really like these rankings and the taste in music in here.
Thanks! Usually I have full profiles for the top 50 prospects. I wrote up a bunch of them but was unfortunately lost due to a computer error. If you have any questions about any of those players I would love to answer them.

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DIO once again a great list, unfortunate that your write ups didn't make it. Looking back at previous years your track record is more respectable than most on TV. I look forward to it every year, I was surprised that you put Lazar at 15th.

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Spoke to 3 sr scouts Mon., none w Seth Jones @ #1, 2 don't have SJ @ #2 & one has him #4 behind Barkov ("not sold on him, see Erik Johnson")

Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 38m
#NHL #draft cont. On S Jones, sr scout sez: "Don't see hockey sense, not even bit of edge, wonder about attitude, v avg interview @ combine"

Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 24m
Re Nikushkin: Sr scouts all laughed. Sez 1 "Don't remember worse combine. Quit tests, brutal intervu. Shame. as talented." #NHL #draft

Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 32m
Re #Zykov "Would b a top 10 all things equal, will go 20-30 just on Russian thing. Really good player. Best intervu @ the draft. #NHL #draft


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Tweets from Gare Joyce....interesting stuff.

Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 1m

Two scouts said NJ would look goalie, possible 2 move pick & get him later. I agree: would b way overdrafting at 9 #nhl #draft

Unanimous: Drouin highest hockey IQ, Domi closest, maybe more creative @ some level. #NHL #draft

Re Nikushkin: Sr scouts all laughed. Sez 1 "Don't remember worse combine. Quit tests, brutal intervu. Shame. as talented." #NHL #draft

Re #Zykov "Would b a top 10 all things equal, will go 20-30 just on Russian thing. Really good player. Best intervu @ the draft. #NHL #draft

Re Halifax goalie going to Jersey as rumoured: Sr scout take "athletic but unpolished, will need lotta work b4 ready" #NHL #draft

#NHL #draft cont. On S Jones, sr scout sez: "Don't see hockey sense, not even bit of edge, wonder about attitude, v avg interview @ combine"

Spoke to 3 sr scouts Mon., none w Seth Jones @ #1, 2 don't have SJ @ #2 & one has him #4 behind Barkov ("not sold on him, see Erik Johnson")

INTERESTING....

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Slowpoke.

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I put in all the information.............not just part. Shortcutter...

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Who are the top ten centres in the draft and what can you tell me about them?

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I don't think the Oilers have any interest in picking Nichushkin at 7 anyways

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Just reading those tweets, is it crazy to think that the draft could go MacKinnon, Drouin, Nichushkin, Jones? I know Nichushkin apparently had a bad combine, but it's been reported that TB has him at #1. I know it's unlikely but hey, who knows?

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Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 42m
Spoke to 3 sr scouts Mon., none w Seth Jones @ #1, 2 don't have SJ @ #2 & one has him #4 behind Barkov ("not sold on him, see Erik Johnson")

Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 38m
#NHL #draft cont. On S Jones, sr scout sez: "Don't see hockey sense, not even bit of edge, wonder about attitude, v avg interview @ combine"

Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 24m
Re Nikushkin: Sr scouts all laughed. Sez 1 "Don't remember worse combine. Quit tests, brutal intervu. Shame. as talented." #NHL #draft

Gare Joyce ‏@GareJoyceNHL 32m
Re #Zykov "Would b a top 10 all things equal, will go 20-30 just on Russian thing. Really good player. Best intervu @ the draft. #NHL #draft


Some interesting stuff.
Some of this is totally incoherent

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For all these "issues" with Jones, I'd be over the moon if the Oilers got him.

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Some of this is totally incoherent
Well scouts have been known to go out and grab some wobbly pops and gossip. Maybe he had a hell of a night with some scouts last night, woke up still hammered and tweeted what he could remember. That or he learned to text/tweet from my mom.

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