no there not, one is written by me and the other by you, they are not the same tard small markets, just your narrow mind cant grasp what is real, small markets that almost go bankrupt DON'T DESERVE TO EXIST. Now there will be less and less for everone.
lol it is so pathetic that the Leafs have to lower my own standers to communicate with small market teams, as they do leafs, don’t they (nashville, pittsburg, ottawa) feel ashamed, lol you should I mean I have to make an effort to be this bad at making money, leafs can make so much with hard work, but it is natural for the small ones to just ask for handouts. I truly wish I had such skills. Yes atlanta you are much smarter then me, and yes florida, what ever you change my words to must be right, I mean who am I to say what I say is what I said, I mean that is up to you right.
Get a life pro-owners and stop destroying the leauge.
no there not, one is written by me and the other by you, they are not the same tard small markets, just your narrow mind cant grasp what is real, small markets that almost go bankrupt DON'T DESERVE TO EXIST. Now there will be less and less for everone.
lol it is so pathetic that the Leafs have to lower my own standers to communicate with small market teams, as they do leafs, don’t they (nashville, pittsburg, ottawa) feel ashamed, lol you should I mean I have to make an effort to be this bad at making money, leafs can make so much with hard work, but it is natural for the small ones to just ask for handouts. I truly wish I had such skills. Yes atlanta you are much smarter then me, and yes florida, what ever you change my words to must be right, I mean who am I to say what I say is what I said, I mean that is up to you right.
Get a life pro-owners and stop destroying the leauge.
This poster has lost faith in talking to other posters and seems to want to speak directly with cities and states, even if they are in lower case.
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This poster has lost faith in talking to other posters and seems to want to speak directly with cities and states, even if they are in lower case.
Must be some high level talk cause it went right over my head.
Although now I'm curious as to how the cities and states will respond to the post and thread.
If they don't, then it's cause he didn't use Uppercase in all the right places.
I don't think this is as serious an issue as some might make it out to be. Even if there had been no lockout, ESPN may well have opted not to renew. It makes sense, considering the current climate (lockout or no lockout) for ESPN to look for a better deal.
I'm betting that a new deal will be negotiated, with less money coming the way of the NHL. Not great, but not a disaster either.
I would like to think that this would be a useful bargaining chip in the negotiations, but I'm skeptical.
no there not, one is written by me and the other by you, they are not the same tard small markets, just your narrow mind cant grasp what is real, small markets that almost go bankrupt DON'T DESERVE TO EXIST. Now there will be less and less for everone.
lol it is so pathetic that the Leafs have to lower my own standers to communicate with small market teams, as they do leafs, don’t they (nashville, pittsburg, ottawa) feel ashamed, lol you should I mean I have to make an effort to be this bad at making money, leafs can make so much with hard work, but it is natural for the small ones to just ask for handouts. I truly wish I had such skills. Yes atlanta you are much smarter then me, and yes florida, what ever you change my words to must be right, I mean who am I to say what I say is what I said, I mean that is up to you right.
Get a life pro-owners and stop destroying the leauge.
Are you using the Martian to English feature on freetranslation?
The problem folks is that the NHL TV rights are national. Nationally in the U.S., the NHL is a bush league at best. What the NHL needs to do is negotiate a contract that is regional with ESPN. It's clear that hockey is only popular in certain areas of the U.S. and that if the NHL addresses that, they and ESPN can make money from regional broadcasts.
The problem folks is that the NHL TV rights are national. Nationally in the U.S., the NHL is a bush league at best. What the NHL needs to do is negotiate a contract that is regional with ESPN. It's clear that hockey is only popular in certain areas of the U.S. and that if the NHL addresses that, they and ESPN can make money from regional broadcasts.
whats a 150 mil a season for the rights. The profits would be tenfold if properly produced and run
I was about to post something quip about how silly an idea that is... but then I realized it ISNT a silly idea.. and that MLSE COULD do it, especially with the massive HD studios theyre prepping at the new Maple Leaf Square complex. To tell the truth, Leafs TV might literally be the best positioned broadcaster in North America be able to pull off producing and syndicating NHL broadcasts in HD.
I was about to post something quip about how silly an idea that is... but then I realized it ISNT a silly idea.. and that MLSE COULD do it, especially with the massive HD studios theyre prepping at the new Maple Leaf Square complex. To tell the truth, Leafs TV might literally be the best positioned broadcaster in North America be able to pull off producing and syndicating NHL broadcasts in HD.
The only problem is that Leafs TV is PPV or it's a specialty channel on cable/satellite. The hockey needs to be on a channel that comes with regular cable/satellite packages. That's where the draw starts making money.
I don't think this is as serious an issue as some might make it out to be. Even if there had been no lockout, ESPN may well have opted not to renew. It makes sense, considering the current climate (lockout or no lockout) for ESPN to look for a better deal.
I'm betting that a new deal will be negotiated, with less money coming the way of the NHL. Not great, but not a disaster either.
I think that the lockout helped seal the deal though. The NHL gave ESPN the opportunity to see if they could draw more with alternative programming & ESPN did. When you give sponsors,TV stations etc the opportunity to do something else to help get ratings or sell their product & they do well, your just p*ssing away money that could have been in your hands.
I think that the lockout helped seal the deal though. The NHL gave ESPN the opportunity to see if they could draw more with alternative programming & ESPN did. When you give sponsors,TV stations etc the opportunity to do something else to help get ratings or sell their product & they do well, your just p*ssing away money that could have been in your hands.
I'm not convinced ESPN drew more viewers. Where did you ge that info?
I'm not convinced ESPN drew more viewers. Where did you ge that info?
ESPN produced ratings results that showed an increased audience over their NHL coverage no matter what they televised, including the "sport" of poker. NHL in USA doesn't draw fleas and given how dulled down Badtman has allowed the game to become it isn't surprising.
ESPN produced ratings results that showed an increased audience over their NHL coverage no matter what they televised, including the "sport" of poker. NHL in USA doesn't draw fleas and given how dulled down Badtman has allowed the game to become it isn't surprising.
"Apathy is one telling indictment of the NHL. TV ratings are another. In a Dec. 10 column, USA TODAY's Michael Hiestand reported that during the NHL lockout, ESPN2 is averaging 0.4% of cable TV households with replacement programming that otherwise wouldn't be on TV. That's a small number. But double what NHL games drew. Arena Football, at times, earned better ratings than the NHL last season."
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"In 2000, ABC and ESPN paid $600 million to carry NHL hockey for five years.
In 2004, ESPN paid $60 million for one year and NBC paid nothing for the rights to a handful of games over two years.
Replacement programming for cancelled NHL games - poker tournaments and whatnot - has earned higher ratings than many of last season's NHL broadcasts. "
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There are more references, but I would need to charge a research fee, like the government does on FOI requests.
Thanks for the links (mike and recidivist). I accept your point.
Still I suspect ESPN would rather have the NHL than celebrity bowling. There is something of a prestige issue, and they don't want to be known as the network that shows novelty events.
I can't predict the future of this issue, but I wont be surprised if ESPN and the NHL strike a new deal, with slightly less money going toward the sport we love.
Otoh, maybe not. Then they may find new strategies for getting the NHL game visible to fans and potential fans.
It really puts into perspective how low an option the NHL is sports wise in the United States & how brutal it is going to be for them when they come back. Kind of makes you wonder what in the world they were thinking when they all decided to cancel an entire season.
