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06-24-2013, 10:51 PM
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but when they needed him to be good, he was prettty damn good

he was bombarded at points in this game, shouldve been over in the 1st.
No he was just good to pretty good. This wasn't "wow that guy's unbeatable" like you see from guys who deserve to win the Conn Smyth, the kind of guys where it's a chore to beat them, this was a guy that make alot of save, most of the variety that he should regardless of the situation.

I'm just saying that Crawford's playoff "performance" is a bit further down the list of Conn Smyth deserving performances.

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06-24-2013, 11:04 PM
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No he was just good to pretty good. This wasn't "wow that guy's unbeatable" like you see from guys who deserve to win the Conn Smyth, the kind of guys where it's a chore to beat them, this was a guy that make alot of save, most of the variety that he should regardless of the situation.

I'm just saying that Crawford's playoff "performance" is a bit further down the list of Conn Smyth deserving performances.
Crawford was so good that you had Kings and bruins passing up good shots countless times and furtively looking for that one more pass attempt at perfect play.

Its not just the saves made. Crawford got in the heads of many opponents this spring.

The whole difference in this series is Hawks got their mojo in game 4 and realized Rask is beatable. Particularly Kane who beat him in tight for fun.
Bruins oddly, and predictably gained no such benefit out of game 4 and it cost them the series because their offense is ideally on the counter and through solid NZ play. But Hawks out did them at that as well this series.

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06-24-2013, 11:04 PM
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I like that it did not go to a goalie it seems goalies are always in the discussion.

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06-24-2013, 11:04 PM
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06-24-2013, 11:09 PM
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The NHL really needs to do something to increase the scoring.Imo,the 1980's and 1990's had the best playoffs.In today's NHL,there's not enough scoring and fighting.




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I think it goes back a little farther than that, you can thank the Devils for the current (and horrible) state of the game nowadays, they are the ones that started with the trap, and after they won a few cups, everybody else started thinking that was the only way to win and followed suit, and voila, we get the "pleasure" of watching defensive hockey year round. You almost never see odd man rushes anymore, or even hockey games that flow, its just such a stifling game these days that its hard to watch, even for a diehard like me, I cant even imagine what non traditional markets think of hockey nowadays, no wonder its so low on the totem pole in the US. Even with all the speed in the league, its countered by all 5 guys on the defensive team being back to stifle any neutral zone speed.

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06-24-2013, 11:10 PM
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Keith should have won the Conn Smythe: he played 30 minutes a game, on the ice for all the big moments, and showed up for all four rounds. Kane was invisible for long stretches this post-season to win the MVP of the playoffs, although he had a few good games and big goal.

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06-24-2013, 11:12 PM
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06-24-2013, 11:22 PM
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Hard to hit guys when you always have the puck. Most teams (read: the Oilers) don't have the horses to retrieve the puck and pass it while maintaining possession.

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06-24-2013, 11:27 PM
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I think it goes back a little farther than that, you can thank the Devils for the current (and horrible) state of the game nowadays, they are the ones that started with the trap, and after they won a few cups, everybody else started thinking that was the only way to win and followed suit, and voila, we get the "pleasure" of watching defensive hockey year round. You almost never see odd man rushes anymore, or even hockey games that flow, its just such a stifling game these days that its hard to watch, even for a diehard like me, I cant even imagine what non traditional markets think of hockey nowadays, no wonder its so low on the totem pole in the US. Even with all the speed in the league, its countered by all 5 guys on the defensive team being back to stifle any neutral zone speed.
It clearly shows when we don't see games like this happening in the playoffs anymore:

1981 Stanley Cup Playoffs:
April 8th,9-2 Islanders over Leafs


1982 Stanley Cup Playoffs:
April 7th, 10-8 Kings over Oilers

1985 Stanley Cup Playoffs:
April 14

Montreal Canadiens 6-7 Boston Bruins


1986 Stanley Cup playoffs:
April 12

Quebec 4 Hartford 9

1987 Stanley Cup playoffs:
April 9

Los Angeles 3 Edmonton 13

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06-24-2013, 11:41 PM
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Just adding fuel to the Hall vs Seguin fire - before someone ever calls Hall injury prone, maybe Seguin is the one who's injury prone. For such a perimeter player...

Seguin admits: “I’ve had same problems [hip] my whole life. I didn’t say anything last year, so I don’t want to say anything yet.” - @ESPNJoeyMac

So maybe those hip injury rumors were for real after all...

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06-24-2013, 11:56 PM
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Hard to hit guys when you always have the puck. Most teams (read: the Oilers) don't have the horses to retrieve the puck and pass it while maintaining possession.
Indeed. And it gives me hope for the Oilers moving forward. A small hope but hope nonetheless.

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06-25-2013, 12:02 AM
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****! Decide to have a couple of drinks to celebrate Cup night and I ****ing fall asleep halfway through the 3rd...wake up to Kane hoisting haha.

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06-25-2013, 12:15 AM
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I know it sounds lame, but I didn't Boston to win partly because I didn't want Seguin to win another one.

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06-25-2013, 12:57 AM
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Thank god. Just didn't want another "defensive" team to win it.

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06-25-2013, 01:12 AM
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Congratulations Chicago, I am glad I can now quit cheering for you. It's been icky.

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06-25-2013, 01:49 AM
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Thank God it's over Hockey should never be played this late.

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06-25-2013, 02:14 AM
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Just adding fuel to the Hall vs Seguin fire - before someone ever calls Hall injury prone, maybe Seguin is the one who's injury prone. For such a perimeter player...

Seguin admits: “I’ve had same problems [hip] my whole life. I didn’t say anything last year, so I don’t want to say anything yet.” - @ESPNJoeyMac

So maybe those hip injury rumors were for real after all...
22 games, 70 shots, 1 goal.

It seemed like every game CBC or NBC would mention Seguin was close to breaking out.

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06-25-2013, 03:56 AM
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Just adding fuel to the Hall vs Seguin fire - before someone ever calls Hall injury prone, maybe Seguin is the one who's injury prone. For such a perimeter player...

Seguin admits: “I’ve had same problems [hip] my whole life. I didn’t say anything last year, so I don’t want to say anything yet.” - @ESPNJoeyMac

So maybe those hip injury rumors were for real after all...
Yikes, doesn't sound good.

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06-25-2013, 07:22 AM
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It's time to shrink them Goalie Pads, Bettman.
Shrink the goalie pads, force goalies to stand up and give them lobotomies for good measure: then you might get something close to 80s hockey, which, let's face it, was beer-league stuff compared to the game today.

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06-25-2013, 08:00 AM
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Let me get this right, there are people that don't like the games but they feel the need to go out of their way and post on a hockey site when clearly there must be a ton of better things for them to do?

Just sad.

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06-25-2013, 08:02 AM
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I don't get the "finally it's over" comments, it was great having hockey going into late June.

Sure people want to see the trades and such, but the shorter summer break the better I say.

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06-25-2013, 08:03 AM
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What a game. Really enjoyed the playoffs. Such a leader Toews is during the game and when it was over. Really went out of his way to make sure everyone was getting that cup.

Quennville might've been the most excited though. In his post game interview he was just so damn happy and didn't want to stop talking. Nice to see.

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06-25-2013, 08:24 AM
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Apparently Handzus had a broken wrist and torn MCL. Can see why he was given the cup 2nd.

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06-25-2013, 08:59 AM
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Apparently Handzus had a broken wrist and torn MCL. Can see why he was given the cup 2nd.
Maybe the reason why it's broken IS because he hoisted the cup

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Thank god. Just didn't want another "defensive" team to win it.
You realize the best defensive team in the league this year was Chicago, right?

I understand they were also the 2nd best offensive team to go along with it.

A season for the ages from the Blackhawks. 52 wins, 14 losses, with 5 shootout losses thrown in. 2nd most GF, fewest GA. Will be interesting to see how history remembers it being that it was a shortened season, but it was one of the most dominant in NHL history.

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