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06-19-2013, 05:16 PM
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I'm $35,000 in debt and words cannot describe how much I regret going to college for journalism (a field in which well-paid positions are very difficult to break into).

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I'm $35,000 in debt and words cannot describe how much I regret going to college for journalism (a field in which well-paid positions are very difficult to break into).

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$90,000 and engineering here. I currently work as a data labeler, Pro Dog Walker/Pet Sitter and Independent Author. Money well spent.

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In all seriousness, I'm a little disappointed with XBox completely caving (if that is indeed the case). DRM is necessary in a country whose culture is largely okay with stealing creative works.

On the other hand why do I get inconvenienced when I pay for all my media? Also studies show that torrent users buy significantly more media than those of us who don't pirate anything.

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On the other hand why do I get inconvenienced when I pay for all my media? Also studies show that torrent users buy significantly more media than those of us who don't pirate anything.
Well the former is an argument is against the implementation of DRM, which has had its fair share of hiccups, not against DRM itself.

The second part needs some context or additional research. There is something to be said for limiting DRM in the interest of getting publicity, even if that comes through illegal sharing of the work in question. I'm sure in some cases P2P enhances the income of creators because more people are viewing their work, just as it takes away from the income of others because people are pirating it.

Part of the problem is the DRM argument is often put in terms of black and white, for or against when it just isn't that simple.

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James Gandolfini, the New Jersey-bred actor who delighted audiences as mob boss Tony Soprano in “The Sopranos” has died following a massive heart attack in Italy, a source told the Daily News.

“Everyone is in tears,” the source close to the 51-year-old TV tough guy said.
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I'm $35,000 in debt and words cannot describe how much I regret going to college for journalism (a field in which well-paid positions are very difficult to break into).

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Look on the bright side, you're now qualified to disagree with Mike Harrington.

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$90,000 and engineering here. I currently work as a data labeler, Pro Dog Walker/Pet Sitter and Independent Author. Money well spent.
$125K for a Criminal Justice degree. Now I am in Social Work. I win (lose)

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Practically zero debt and a well paying job.

SUNY BUFFALO + ACCOUNTING = PROFIT.

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Practically zero debt and a well paying job.

SUNY BUFFALO + ACCOUNTING = PROFIT.
Oh so those thousands I paid for grad school at UB subsidized your education? Where's my cut???

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Oh so those thousands I paid for grad school at UB subsidized your education? Where's my cut???
Basically, yes. I'll buy you a beer at next hf event.

I am also from a poor family ($ for pell and tap) and I am also wicked smart ($cholarships). Good combo.

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Basically, yes. I'll buy you a beer at next hf event.

I am also from a poor family ($ for pell and tap) and I am also wicked smart ($cholarships). Good combo.
It's all good, I don't begrudge. Go on with your bad accounting self.

Unrelated: me on summer vacation + kids on summer vacation as of today means I get to drink every night of the damn week. Expect more goofy posts like this one.

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I envy you. Only $125K...

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I envy you. Only $125K...
You two would be a debt match made in heaven. Now kiss.

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Yeah, cuz she'd want Clock's sloppy seconds...

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Undergrad: Lucked out going for a topic that I both enjoy and pays well

Grad: Lucked out going for a degree I always wanted that also helps career earning potential

I seriously think high schools should have some sort of class about college, choosing majors, setting realistic expectations, etc.

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Grad: Lucked out going for a degree I always wanted that also helps career earning potential

I seriously think high schools should have some sort of class about college, choosing majors, setting realistic expectations, etc.
Agreed. We had a college transition skills class, but there needs to be a financial advisor to go over costs, earning potential for majors, paying back loans, etc. When I picked my college paying back loans was the last thing I focused on. I knew I would have to do it someday, but I never considered what went into it and what it would cost me.

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Undergrad: Lucked out going for a topic that I both enjoy and pays well

Grad: Lucked out going for a degree I always wanted that also helps career earning potential

I seriously think high schools should have some sort of class about college, choosing majors, setting realistic expectations, etc.
That, plus a decent introduction to everyday finances. Kids need to learn how to save & how loans, interest, etc. work. It's something that is severely lacking these days.

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Undergrad: Lucked out going for a topic that I both enjoy and pays well

Grad: Lucked out going for a degree I always wanted that also helps career earning potential

I seriously think high schools should have some sort of class about college, choosing majors, setting realistic expectations, etc.

They should also explain the various skilled trades as well as other professions that don't require a college degree. College isn't for everyone. Many find that out after wasting a few years and thousands of dollars. Also the financial advantages of junior college as you start you college life should be explained as well.

Too many folks just go to a four year college because ... well... thats what you do after high school.


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They should also explain the various skilled trades as well as other professions that don't require a collge degree. College isn't for everyone. Many find that out after wasting a few years and thousands of dollars. Also the financial advantages of junior college as you start you college life should be explained as well.

Too many folks just go to a four year college because ... well... thats what you do after high school.
I went to a two year school after failing miserably in my first attempt at a four year school. I sincerely wish I had not listened to the voice in my head that told me distinctly not to go to a two year school because it was for idiots.

I wouldn't be who I am today without those two years, and would not have met some of my best friends and my best professor. Not to mention would be about 20k less in debt. Le sigh.

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I went to a two year school after failing miserably in my first attempt at a four year school. I sincerely wish I had not listened to the voice in my head that told me distinctly not to go to a two year school because it was for idiots.

I wouldn't be who I am today without those two years, and would not have met some of my best friends and my best professor. Not to mention would be about 20k less in debt. Le sigh.
I teach at a two year school! We have the best professors. Seriously. My profs at UB could not have cared less about the undergrads.

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I teach at a two year school! We have the best professors. Seriously. My profs at UB could not have cared less about the undergrads.
I think I've been really lucky having a bunch of great professors at UB in the Comm department. But the three best professors I've ever had were all from ECC. Not to mention all the awesome practical stuff I got to do in their tv studio. It was really worth the money and the time.

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You could of been an idiot like me and went to an out of state school for a nice high paying engineering degree and then decide that the job sucks, so needed a little adventure in life.

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We had some sort of college prepatory meeting starting sophomore year, but it was super leinoy, like 3 hours a year sophomore, junior, and senior year.

The worst thing is that high schools expose you to so little of the world. You get what, math, english, science, history, a language, maybe some technology, business, computer, music, or art classes depending on what you do with your free credits? Plus the teacher you have makes a huge difference. I'm pretty into biology, but my HS bio teacher sucked.

My high school had 9 periods each year so 36 full year periods total. Here's what I would do:
Core/mandatory classes
4 years english.
2 years math
1 year science of choice
1 year history
1/2 year practical economics (i.e. personal finances)
1/2 year government
4 years gym or gym equivalent (i.e. athletic training, sports medicine) if available
4 years lunch obviously
1 year health/sex ed

That only fills half the credits while filling the lunch requirement and giving the basics for being a reasonably productive member of society without forcing students into math or science classes they're never going to need. It leaves a lot of space for electives so students aren't heading into college clueless about what they want to do with their life. I would probably include a year of independent career study to go with that as well.

I feel the biggest failings of my high school were (for me):
English classes over-focused on classic literature
English classes over-focused on consuming creative works rather than producing them
Worthless history classes
Failure to give appreciation for sheer variety of possible careers
No AP Earth Science class (we had AP bio, chem, and physics)

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