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Flyers begin preliminary discussions to extend Giroux

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07-04-2013, 01:42 PM
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Hearing that Claude Giroux and the Flyers are close to agreeing to an 8-yr deal worth north of $8 M a year...
Ouch, was hoping 7.5... Worth anything he gets regardless.

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07-04-2013, 01:43 PM
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Ouch, was hoping 7.5... Worth anything he gets regardless.
Yeah it's not bad by any means but 8X8 isn't exactly a home-team discount. Hoping Kessel signs for less than that...Bergeron's deal on the other hand was a gift.

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07-04-2013, 01:43 PM
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Ouch, was hoping 7.5... Worth anything he gets regardless.
60 million per year?

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07-04-2013, 01:45 PM
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60 million per year?
There's a max salary restriction in the CBA so that doesn't even make sense as a joke.

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expected, after getzlaf and perrys contract expect alot of good players wanting 8m+
Good players have been making that money. The only difference is cap hits more closely reflect salaries with the new CBA.

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60 million per year?
If he demanded 10 a year we would pay... Can't let Giroux walk.

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@Real_ESPNLeBrun. Just ironing out a few wrinkles and it will be announced within a day or 2. Sources suggest closer to $8.3 per.

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@Real_ESPNLeBrun. Just ironing out a few wrinkles and it will be announced within a day or 2. Sources suggest closer to $8.3 per.

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Ouch, was hoping 7.5... Worth anything he gets regardless.
Yea, no. If it were to happen (not going to), I would disagree with him being the highest paid player in the league. Not worth that.

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07-04-2013, 01:49 PM
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8.3 is expensive but if anyone is worth it it's him. I would think Giroux's agent held all the cards in this negotiation.

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Wow 8.3m...

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he peeked getzlaf and perrys deal and saw what he could get

anyone would do the same

worth every penny

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I don't like it, but that's just me.

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Flyers and Holmgren are FU!

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Technically it is a RFA contract. But Giroux could be a UFA in a couple of years, right, at age 27? So basically almost this entire contract is a UFA contract. So treating this extension like a RFA contract, unless it is only for a year, is misleading. It for all intents and purposes is a UFA contract.

The cap numbers are set next year, but many sources expect the cap to go up significantly, north of $70 million the year after and keep going up. Giroux has a smart agent, the same one Crosby and Malkin have, they know all of that.

If Giroux does a Parise and signs a one year deal then sure, you might get by with 7 millon per. But if you want to take him through all of his prime, to 34 years old with an 8 year deal, expect to be negotiating basically a UFA contract. He may give a home town discount, but that would be at least $8 million per year, more likely $8.5 million per. If he takes the one year deal that takes him to age 27, he could get a lot more elsewhere when the cap goes up, and he knows it.
This guy called it. :p

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G!!!!! Id give him 9 a year if I had to. Guy is such a gamer, what happened to all the offersheets HF? LOL

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Where is all this money coming from?

Is a usual post that follows. $8.3m is slightly over.

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Where is all this money coming from?

Is a usual post that follows. $8.3m is slightly over.
Timonen will retire, cap will go up. Problem solved.

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This guy called it. :p
But this guy didn't:

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8 years 9.5 million per. Maybe 10 million per. It will take Malkin money to sign him long term. I am sure that be sees himself as a top five talent. Those saying 7 million per year are out of their minds.

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To not have to pay him $9M AAV is a win for the Flyers, in my opinion.

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Where is all this money coming from?

Is a usual post that follows. $8.3m is slightly over.
Not sure, but sucks as it sounds like Flyers and Pens have to fold next year. League is gonna really miss their rivalry !!

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One thing you've got to keep remembering is that nobody will sign long term in Philly any more.

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Timonen will retire, cap will go up. Problem solved.
You missed what I was trying to say. I was being sarcastic.

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You missed what I was trying to say. I was being sarcastic.
My bad missed the second line

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but but but! He can't re-sign because someone has to get Homer back and offer sheet him!!!!!!
One of the strangest things I keep seeing from Flyers fans is this sort of thing.

It hasn't even been a year since the Weber ordeal, but I've since read a hundred times that there is absolutely no way any Flyer could ever be offer-sheeted from now until the end of time. Apparently this is something that only happens to other clubs. The Flyers exist in a magic bubble.

Also, I've read that GMs never give out offer sheets as revenge, because "They're not childish" or whatever. Except history has shown that it has been done. Vancouver offer-sheeted Backes in 2008, only to have St. Louis offer sheet Steve Bernier a week later. I'm sure St. Louis considered it less of revenge and more of a deterrent.

The fact is, the Flyers seem to want to sign their big names before they are at risk of getting an offer sheet, just like the rest of the league. That makes sense. It's not certain their players will ever be offersheeted, but it's hardly a lock that they never will be, either.

Now for what Giroux will make. I bet he'll take the 8 year max, no problem. The players made sure to put in a Jeff Carter rule after what happened to him (giving a discount, then getting screwed). So players will continue to take long contracts -- I just wouldn't count on much of a discount. They also can't front load it to extremes any more. Under $8M sounds like a pipe dream.

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