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06-16-2013, 06:20 PM
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They are, but the Coyotes haven't had the typical #1 center since Maloney took over and may be willing to overpay. I do think that the scenario needs to be tweaked. IMO, Barkov would be worth it, and Lindholm needs to be tweaked. What I don't like about drafting Lindholm is that he would not come over to NA (to play) until the following season
From what I've read, I think Barkov wouldn't be able to play immediately next year in NA either; he has to complete mandatory military duty.

Anyways, this Yotes fan cosigns on the Gormley + 12th for the 5th. Risky move, but I'm very high on Lindholm. Would swallow it more if the Canes were willing to send Peters our way along with the 5th.

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06-16-2013, 06:22 PM
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Skinner> Gagner
Ward> Dubnyk
McBain+bowman > Smid
5 th > 7th

Legit no reason for the canes to do this except downgrade their roster.
And save a lot of money. And I think Smid has far more value than McBain+Bowman. McBain is terrible and Bowman is an AHLer on a one-way contract.

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06-16-2013, 06:25 PM
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ew, gross overpayment by TO
I thought so too... I could see maybe frattin + 21st + colbourne for 5th

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06-16-2013, 06:28 PM
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I thought so too... I could see maybe frattin + 21st + colbourne for 5th
A move for the 5th overal would have to include one of Reilly or Gardiner. Canes need a top 4 dman. There not interested in secondary pieces like Frattin and colborbe who have little value.

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06-16-2013, 06:29 PM
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From what I've read, I think Barkov wouldn't be able to play immediately next year in NA either; he has to complete mandatory military duty.

Anyways, this Yotes fan cosigns on the Gormley + 12th for the 5th. Risky move, but I'm very high on Lindholm. Would swallow it more if the Canes were willing to send Peters our way along with the 5th.
might as well tweak it more and swap 2nds too.

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06-16-2013, 06:31 PM
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I thought so too... I could see maybe frattin + 21st + colbourne for 5th
I couldn't.

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06-16-2013, 06:33 PM
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perhaps franson over frattin?

Franson + Colbourne + 21st for 5th.

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perhaps franson over frattin?

Franson + Colbourne + 21st for 5th.
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06-16-2013, 06:43 PM
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A signed Gunnarsson + Matt Finn+ #21 for #5


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06-16-2013, 07:07 PM
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And save a lot of money. And I think Smid has far more value than McBain+Bowman. McBain is terrible and Bowman is an AHLer on a one-way contract.
Don't forget too that Ward is coming off a career threatening injury. Who knows if he'll be able to recover. Best to ship him off while his value is still something. Skinner is too small to really play in this league and always skates with his head down to compound things. in all honesty, he's starting to edge closer and closer to Sidney Crosby levels of sub par play and injury status.

Smid would be a steal too. Would love him on Carolina. Very solid top pair defenseman who still has crazy upside. Edmonton would be stupid to trade him tho. He's Lowe's best shot at getting a 7th ring tbh.

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06-16-2013, 07:09 PM
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Smid would be a steal too. Would love him on Carolina. Very solid top pair defenseman who still has crazy upside. Edmonton would be stupid to trade him tho. He's Lowe's best shot at getting a 7th ring tbh.
You obviously haven't watched Smid very much......

He's a 2nd pairing guy who provides zero offense. Makes the safe play every single time. Really no upside at all (which is fine considering that he's an above average NHL defenseman already).

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06-16-2013, 07:17 PM
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If I'm the Flyers I'd be very interested in moving up from #11 to #5 but I don't think we should give up a ton to do so (there will still be some damned good players available at #11 when we pick.

Something like 11th OA + 2013 2nd thru 2013 7th for 5th OA + 2014 2nd thru 2014 7th. Basically it's a swap of our picks after the 1st rnd this year for their picks after the 1st rnd next year. Remember that this draft class is very good and deep while next years not so much. Also, the Flyers pick 11th in each round this year and while we don't know where the Canes will pick next year yet remember this, the Canes were leading the SE and 2nd in the Conference this year before Ward went down for the season. I HIGHLY doubt the Canes are out of the playoff race next season making their pick probably around 20th in each round I suspect.

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06-16-2013, 07:47 PM
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Sounded like the Canes have been in talks with Edmonton about moving down to #7, which would be pretty consistent with what JR has said scouting's opinion is on this draft. If they think they can still get their guy at #7 then why not try to pick up another late 2nd in the process, and/or another asset they could use?

Seemed like Edmonton is high on Monahan, and if Calgary would prefer a center as well (Lindholm) they can still get Nichushkin.
This doesn't sound like what it was rumored they were looking for. OP says Carolina is shopping the pick for help in their top 4 on D. What teams relatively close to Carolina have surplus of NHL defensemen on their roster? I know my Stars do. We also have an extra 1st (29-30) and picks 40 and 54 in the 2nd round.

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06-16-2013, 07:51 PM
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Staal for 5th. Rangers pick Nichushkin or Lindholm.

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06-16-2013, 07:54 PM
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You obviously haven't watched Smid very much......

He's a 2nd pairing guy who provides zero offense. Makes the safe play every single time. Really no upside at all (which is fine considering that he's an above average NHL defenseman already).
I think you've missed the joke.

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06-16-2013, 08:32 PM
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Smid is a great defensive defenseman but I think I would do this from an Oilers perspective
Smid is arguably our best dman. You need guys like Smid on your team. Especially the horrendous defensive core we have.

7th+Musil or 7th plus one of our seconds for the 5th. And thats only if Barkov is on the table.

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06-16-2013, 09:00 PM
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I think you've missed the joke.
You think correctly.

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You think correctly.
Haha. Nice.

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06-16-2013, 10:37 PM
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i hope the devils try and move up

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Top 4 defenseman or a scoring winger is what they should be looking to bring back. What about someone like Glencross + for the pick?

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Vanek+16th overall.
Myers/Sekera+16th overall.

Sabres take Monahan/Lindholm at 5th pick and pick up Risto at 8th pick and the rebuild is complete.

Cody Hodgson, Mikhail Grigorenko, Zemgus Girgensons, Monahan/Lindholm down the middle.


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I'd trade Letang for the 5th pick+
an impending free agent isn't getting you a 5th overall pick

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06-16-2013, 11:15 PM
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Top 4 defenseman or a scoring winger is what they should be looking to bring back. What about someone like Glencross + for the pick?
Pretty low threshold for "scoring winger" if a one time 20 goal scorer who is 30 years old is what you'd be offering.

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Marc Staal for 5th.


Canes get the last Staal brother and they strengthen a huge need they got. They need a premier defenseman. We all know that he'd resign for you guys.

Rangers gets a 1st rounder this year, and they get to pick top 5, can't remember when that last happened.

Lindholm, nicshukin (no idea how you spell his name haha sorry), Zadorov would look nice. I'd love to get a player who has got 1st line potential. Usually Rangers Draft a bit lower which results in solid 2nd liners.



What do Canes fans think?

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06-16-2013, 11:24 PM
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Vanek+16th overall.
Myers/Sekera+16th overall.

Sabres take Monahan/Lindholm at 5th pick and pick up Risto at 8th pick and the rebuild is complete.

Cody Hodgson, Mikhail Grigorenko, Zemgus Girgensons, Monahan/Lindholm down the middle.
I feel like that would be so unnecessary

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