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06-18-2013, 01:21 AM
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Center:

Goaltender:

1. Henrik Lundqvist
2. Jonathan Quick
3. Pekka Rinne
4. Tuuka Rask
5. Sergei Bobrovsky
6. Antti Niemi
7. Mike Smith
8. Roberto Luongo
9. Craig Anderson
10. Kari Lehtonen

HM: Corey Schneider, Carey Price
Maybe I'm biased but....you have Lu on the list and not Jimmy Howard?

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06-18-2013, 02:41 AM
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Weber
Gardiner
Karlsson
Subban
Keith
Pie
Doughty
Letang
Suter
OEL
Yeah Gardiner is probably better than Chara lol

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06-18-2013, 02:52 AM
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In the same year his own fans voted Nabokov team MVP right?

If he wa 33 and had not been drafted first overall in 2009 with a lot of hype behind him, he would not have been nominated.

For me, not taking health/contract/age into consideration

Centers:

Crosby
Malkin
Datsyuk
Giroux
Backstrom
Spezza
Stamkos
Kopitar
Toews
Bergeron

Wingers:

Ovechkin
MSL
Kane
Kovalchuk
Hall
Kessel
Hossa
Zetterberg
Eriksson
Marleau

Defenseman:

Karlsson
Chara
Weber
Suter
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Keith
OEL
Letang
Subban

Goalie:

Quick
Lundqvist
Rinne
Bobrovsky
Niemi
Rask
Lehtonen
Miller
Luongo
Anderson
No Getzlaf or Perry, must be a Sharks fan.

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06-18-2013, 03:27 AM
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Guess I'll try.

Centers:

1) Crosby
2) Malkin
3) Stamkos
4) Toews
5) Datsyuk
6) Tavares
7) Giroux
8) Getzlaf
9) Thornton
10) Kopitar/Sedin


Wingers:

1) Ovechkin
2) Kovalchuk
3) MSL
4) Kane
5) Zetterberg
6) Kessel
7) Hossa
8) Parise
9) Sedin
10) Perry/Vanek/Nash

Defensemen:

1) Chara
2) Karlsson
3) Weber
4) Suter
5) Subban
6) Doughty
7) Pietrangelo
8) Keith
9) OEL
10) Letang

Goalies:

1) Lundqvist
2) Rinne
3) Quick
4) Miller
5) Rask
6) Lethonen
7) Luongo
8) Price
9) Bobrovsky
10) Anderson

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06-18-2013, 03:36 AM
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Center:
1.Crosby
2.Malkin
3.Stamkos
4.Giroux
5.Toews
6.Datsyuk
7.Tavares
8.Kopitar
9.Thornton
10.Spezza

Left wing:
1.Ovechkin
2.Zetterberg
3.Elias
4.Parise
5.Sedin
6.Eriksson
7.Nash
8.Marleau
9.Vanek
10.Neal

HM: Hall

Right Wing:
1.Kovalchuk
2.Kane
3.MSL
4.Perry
5.Hossa
6.Kessel
7.Voracek
8.Semin
9.Ryan
10.Pominville

Defense:
1.Chara
2.Weber
3.Karlsson
4.Keith
5.Doughty
6.Subban
7.Suter
8.OEL
9.Pietrangelo
10.Letang

Goalie:
1.Quick
2.Lundqvist
3.Rinne
4.Lehtonen
5.Ward
6.Rask
7.Bobrovsky
8.Anderson
9.Luongo
10.Miller

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06-18-2013, 04:16 AM
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I might take Bolland for Moulson..... I'd absolutely take Sharp.

And the reason I brought it up is obviously because you compared them. Am I in an alternate universe?
I said Toews (and others) outscored their linemates by a greater margin than Tavares did. That does not involve Kane, because Kane is not Toews' linemate.

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Lets also not pretend that the presence of Kane doesn't help Toews.... or the presence of Malkin doesn't help Crosby and vice versa. The Islanders do not have anyone even close to those caliber players. Everyone keys in on Tavares.

You think before the Isles/Pens series, Blysma was talking to the team about how to cover Frans Neilsen? Or Josh Bailey?
Myself, some other Wings fans, and some Hawks fans discussed this a while back. We were all pretty much in agreement that Toews sees the opposition's best defensive presence. So your "help" argument works for Kane, but not for Toews.

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Center:
1.Crosby
2.Malkin
3.Stamkos
4.Giroux
5.Toews
6.Datsyuk
7.Tavares
8.Kopitar
9.Thornton
10.Spezza

Left wing:
1.Ovechkin Plays RW now
2.Zetterberg Plays C
3.Elias
4.Parise
5.Sedin
6.Eriksson
7.Nash
8.Marleau
9.Vanek
10.Neal

HM: Hall

Right Wing:
1.Kovalchuk
2.Kane
3.MSL
4.Perry
5.Hossa
6.Kessel
7.Voracek
8.Semin
9.Ryan Plays mostly LW
10.Pominville

Defense:
1.Chara
2.Weber
3.Karlsson
4.Keith
5.Doughty
6.Subban
7.Suter
8.OEL
9.Pietrangelo
10.Letang

Goalie:
1.Quick
2.Lundqvist
3.Rinne
4.Lehtonen
5.Ward
6.Rask
7.Bobrovsky
8.Anderson
9.Luongo
10.Miller
I've put some notes in.

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06-18-2013, 04:59 AM
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Center.
1.Crosby
2.Malkin
3.Datsyuk
4.Bäckström
5.Tavares
6.Stamkos
7.Krejci
8.Thornton
9.Spezza
10.Toews

Wingers Right/Left.
1.St.Louis /Ovechkin
2.Kovalchuk/D.Sedin
3.Voracek /Vanek
4.Semin/Zetterberg
5.Perry/Nash
6.Kane/Moulsen
7.Hossa/Neal
8.Dupuis/Parise
9.Kessel/Hall
10.Giroux/E.Kane


Defender.
1.Chara
2.Karlsson
3.Subban
4.S.Weber
5.Doughty
6.Suter
7.Keith
8.Letang
9.Pietrangelo
10.Erhoff

Goalties.
1.Quick
2.Bobrovsky
3.Lundquist
4.Rinne
5.Miller
6.Rask
6.Lehtonen
7.Anderson
8.Luongo
9.Ward
10.Price

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06-18-2013, 08:56 AM
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Center.
1.Crosby
2.Malkin
3.Datsyuk
4.Bäckström
5.Tavares
6.Stamkos
7.Krejci
8.Thornton
9.Spezza
10.Toews

Wingers Right/Left.
1.St.Louis /Ovechkin
2.Kovalchuk/D.Sedin
3.Voracek /Vanek
4.Semin/Zetterberg
5.Perry/Nash
6.Kane/Moulsen
7.Hossa/Neal
8.Dupuis/Parise
9.Kessel/Hall
10.Giroux/E.Kane


Defender.
1.Chara
2.Karlsson
3.Subban
4.S.Weber
5.Doughty
6.Suter
7.Keith
8.Letang
9.Pietrangelo
10.Erhoff

Goalties.
1.Quick
2.Bobrovsky
3.Lundquist
4.Rinne
5.Miller
6.Rask
6.Lehtonen
7.Anderson
8.Luongo
9.Ward
10.Price
Though the bolded players are good, let's not get crazy...

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06-18-2013, 09:15 AM
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Centres:
Crosby
Malkin
Stamkos
Datsyuk
Giroux
Spezza
Staal
Zetterberg
Getzlaf
Backstrom

Wingers:
Ovechkin
St. Louis
Hall
P. Kane
Kessel
Semin
Vanek
Nash
Sedin
Perry

Defencemen:
Karlsson
Chara
Weber
Suter
Doughty
OEL
Subban
Pietrangelo
Letang
Girardi

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06-18-2013, 09:25 AM
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Guess I'll try.

Centers:

1) Crosby
2) Malkin
3) Stamkos
4) Toews
5) Datsyuk
6) Tavares
7) Giroux
8) Getzlaf
9) Thornton
10) Kopitar/Sedin


Wingers:

1) Ovechkin
2) Kovalchuk
3) MSL
4) Kane
5) Zetterberg
6) Kessel
7) Hossa
8) Parise
9) Sedin
10) Perry/Vanek/Nash

Defensemen:

1) Chara
2) Karlsson
3) Weber
4) Suter
5) Subban
6) Doughty
7) Pietrangelo
8) Keith
9) OEL
10) Letang

Goalies:

1) Lundqvist
2) Rinne
3) Quick
4) Miller
5) Rask
6) Lethonen
7) Luongo
8) Price
9) Bobrovsky
10) Anderson
Favorite lists so far. I would probably tweak it to my preferences, but really good basis.

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06-18-2013, 09:28 AM
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I'm pretty happy Kessel has found his way on to every list. He may be a weird little dude, but he's a hell of a winger.

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06-18-2013, 09:36 AM
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I said Toews (and others) outscored their linemates by a greater margin than Tavares did. That does not involve Kane, because Kane is not Toews' linemate.
Fair enough.... then Chicago should have no problem with a Moulson-Sharp swap, I'd even add to it as an Islander fan. How about Moulson for Zets? I'd trade both Tavares wingers and our first for either Pavelski or Marleau without even blinking an eye. Ask LAK fans if they would be willing to take Moulson back for Dustin Brown..... I can tell you the answer now, if you'd like.


Tavares linemates are so close to him in scoring.... because when they do score, Tavares is a big part of it more often than not. Amazing concept, I know

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Lol @ James Neal and Rick Nash over Taylor Hall
You mean the Rick Nash that scored 30+ goals 6 out of the last 7 seasons except this one? Nash had 21 this year which was more than Hall's 16 yet again.

So yeah Nash is better than Hall.

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You mean the Rick Nash that scored 30+ goals 6 out of the last 7 seasons except this one? Nash had 21 this year which was more than Hall's 16 yet again.

So yeah Nash is better than Hall.
You leave Edmonton's glimmer of hope alone!

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Lol at Hall over Kessel on some people's lists. Hall is getting hyped way too Much for one good year.
Kadri? Gardiner? Reimer? etc etc etc....

A Leaf fan should be the last to say that.

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06-18-2013, 10:20 AM
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Centres:
Crosby
Malkin
Stamkos
Datsyuk
Giroux
Spezza
Staal
Zetterberg
Getzlaf
Backstrom

Wingers:
Ovechkin
St. Louis
Hall
P. Kane
Kessel
Semin
Vanek
Nash
Sedin
Perry

Defencemen:
Karlsson
Chara
Weber
Suter
Doughty
OEL
Subban
Pietrangelo
Letang
Girardi
Great list.

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Eh, no particular order:

Centers:
Crosby
Malkin
Datsyuk
Stamkos
Getzlaf
Toews
Kopitar
Getzlaf
Tavares
Zetterberg
(Spezza)
(Backstrom)
(Staal)

Wingers (Left and Right):
Ovie
Kovalchuk
St. Louis
Kane
Giroux
Kessel
Sedin
Perry
Neal
Hall
(Eriksson)
(Elias)


Defense:
Chara
Weber
Suter
Doughty
Pietrangelo
Subban
Letang
Keith
Byfuglien
Edler

Goalies:
Rinne
Lundqvist
Quick
Anderson
Lou
Price
Howard
Rask
Smith
Ward

I'm sure I've missed a few deserving candidates.
I love how this guy tried to sneak in Byfuglien like no one would notice

Edler isn't top 10 either, but def not Buff.

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D:

Weber
Gardiner
Karlsson
Subban
Keith
Pie
Doughty
Letang
Suter
OEL
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The jake gardiner on the toronto maple leafs. Better then PK Subban and Erik Karlsson.
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Tavares was 10th in points among centers and played every game with 47 in 48. So he barely squeaks in on total offense; let's hope nobody has a better PPG. Oops, Malkin had 33 in 31; I guess that pushes Tavares out.

Tavares also brings nothing but his offense to the table. There are guys not far behind him (Kopitar, Thornton) who bring a physical game and a defensive game.

And then there's Bergeron, who was down at 32 (in 42) but is also arguably the league's best defensive forward and is the league's best faceoff man.

I don't really see a top-ten spot for Tavares. Top-15, maybe. But not top-ten.
you even watch him play....

Watch the pens series again, Tavares was hitting everything he could and he is not at all a defensive liability...just stop it...

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Kadri? Gardiner? Reimer? etc etc etc....

A Leaf fan should be the last to say that.


And need I remind you of superstar Sam Gagner?


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I think with a healthy season next year we could see more Mike Greens here in the top 10 lists for Defensemen. He's quietly become a solid enough defensive player to go along with his excellent offensive game.

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Hall put up more assists this year (Nash outscored him).

8 points, all from assists, in one season. Because of this, you laughed at the idea that Nash would be ranked higher than Hall in a top ten winger list.

Ahem:

-Taylor Hall has never had a 30 goal season. Nash has had 7 of them.

-Taylor Hall's career high in points is 53 (in 61 games, and 50 points in 45 games this season). Nash has 8 seasons with 54 or more points. Five of those 8 seasons were over 60 points, and one was one point shy of 80 points.

I would expect that a day will eventually come when Taylor Hall is easily ranked over a guy like Nash (as I said, I really don't like Nash as a player, and Hall has had an excellent start to what is a VERY young career). To scoff at it today? I'm not the one being ignorant here. 8 more assists or not, you really have nothing to base an argument on here.
What has Nash done?

I know you're only supporting him because you're a Ranger fan.

I'm a die hard Ranger fan and I think Nash is one of the worst contracts in the NHL and was one of the most overrated players in the league when we acquired him.

This was a GOOD regular season for Nash. And Hall was still every bit as good. Than, factor in that Nash was a passenger in the post season, did absolutely nothing, and didn't play hurt on his own account. Then factor in that he wasn't even the best forward on our team, and that Lundqvist/Stepan were the biggest reasons for our post season appearance, and I think it goes even more into Hall's favor. I'm not saying Hall is better than Nash, but you can't really argue that Nash is better in the present day.

Just because he's a Ranger it doesn't mean we have to act like he is a top player in the league. I feel like Ranger fans keep trying to convince themselves that Nash is an elite forward because he has a $7.8 million contract and we are stuck with him for a LONG time. In reality, he's a 30 goal / 60 point winger for the better part of his career. It is what it is.

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I'm solidly on the record as being ridiculously critical of Rick Nash. I hated the trade when it was rumored, hated it more when it happened, and hated what it did to the team this year. That said, Taylor Hall has a LONG way to go before he's even in the conversation with guys like Nash. That's not a knock on Hall. He's 21 years old, and he has plenty of time to get there. He's not there yet.

I am highly amused at the complete absence of Marian Gaborik, however. Yes, he had a bit of a down year (not even a bad year. Just a down one). He still has two 40+ goal seasons in the last 4 years. Bumping him out of the top 5 because of this year? Okay, I see that. Consistently bumping him out of the top ten? That's just absurd.
Not really. Nash is overrated. I'd take Hall 10 times out of 10 ahead of him.

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Not really. Nash is overrated. I'd take Hall 10 times out of 10 ahead of him.
I would take Nash 10 times out of 10 over Hall.

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I would take Nash 10 times out of 10 over Hall.
Would you take Pacioretty over Nash, then? Because as far as I'm concerned, he's been a better point producer over the last two years and never has he been mentioned (rightfully so) anywhere close to top 10 lists. Nash is living off his reputation. He's a 60-70 points winger that can give you 30 goals a season. He's not a superstar, nor is he an offensive juggernaut. He's the average 1st line winger, the type most teams have.

James Neal shouldn't be anywhere close to top 10 lists either.

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