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06-19-2013, 10:37 PM
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I read that Mac t has two trades done already.

Speculating its the gardiner trade and klefbom for zajac or henrique
That 2nd trade would be awful. I just have really high hopes for Klefbom, Zajac has an awful contract and Henrique is decent but kind of meh.
I can't possibly imagine that MacT would trade Klefbom now unless it was in a package for a top player, i just can't
I sure hope that's not true. Where did you see that speculation?

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Well 5 is the very high end for what Gagner could get. Most people expect in the 4.5-4.75 range which would be pretty typical. And I think if Gagner is between Hall and Yakupov he can put up more than 55p too.
IMO he's worth about $4 million for what he brings to the table. Anyone with any kind of offensive ability and IQ playing between Nail and Hall should be able to flirt with 55+ points in a season when they are in their primes. That said if Gagner gets better in other areas of his game by sizable margins then he'd be worth what he'll likely be getting. Personally I'm worried that we will overpay him and be stuck with him.

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or Henrique? that's a pretty big difference.
I still don't trade Klefa for Henrique.

I just think Klefbom has first pairing written all over him and is going to be an absolute beast for us.

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I read that Mac t has two trades done already.

Speculating its the gardiner trade and klefbom for zajac or henrique
I'd be physically ill if we trade Klefbom for Zajac or Henrique

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How many 55 point one dimensional players get paid in the $5 million range? Maybe there's a slough of them, but when we are paying a guy like Hall $6 million I have a hard time justifying paying Gagner "only" a million less than him.
There's also the RFA vs. UFA matter to consider. Gagner being a year away from being a UFA=more money. This is really the time when the Oilers have to decide whether or not to commit to Gagner or walk away. I guess we'll find out which choice they make in the next month or two.

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Could Henrique be the center going into his 3rd year in the NHL Stauffer was hinting at? Might fit. Played with Hall in Windsor.

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There's also the RFA vs. UFA matter to consider. Gagner being a year away from being a UFA=more money. This is really the time when the Oilers have to decide whether or not to commit to Gagner or walk away. I guess we'll find out which choice they make in the next month or two.
True, if they bring him back, unless Gagner takes a discount he will be overpaid IMO. How they handle Gagner could make or break this team going forward.

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@TheCityOfChamps: 1/2 The Edmonton #Oilers & Toronto Maple #Leafs are closing in on a deal that would send the 7th overall pick to Toronto, while Edmonton ... ... would receive Toronto's 1st round pick & Jake Gardner. Minor pieces may also be involved in the trade. Trade freeze in affect.

@TheCityOfChamps: Its believed that if the #Oilers trade down & get the #Leafs pick, they'd look to move up using another pick or a player like Ales Hemsky.
Don't see the Leafs doing that. If it was offered up I would make that deal in a heart beat. I quite like Gardiner. I might trade the 7th straight up for him. Donno if the Leafs would even go for that.

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Could Henrique be the center going into his 3rd year in the NHL Stauffer was hinting at? Might fit. Played with Hall in Windsor.
Definitely could be. The price can't be Klefa though

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Any interest in recruiting one of Eakins boys; Mike Kostka?
He's only 27 and was 2nd in TOI/G for the Leafs behind Phaneuf. Also he was PPG in the AHL this year.

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I'd be physically ill if we trade Klefbom for Zajac or Henrique
A prospect for a proven commodity and you'd be physically ill? Maybe wait until the prospect even plays an NHL season before going that far.

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A prospect for a proven commodity and you'd be physically ill? Maybe wait until the prospect even plays an NHL season before going that far.
Wouldnt take on Zajac and that joke of a contract, but I'd move Klefbom for Henrique though... even though Henrique had a pretty abysmal season.

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I'd be physically ill if we trade Klefbom for Zajac or Henrique
Definitely if it was Zajac with his contract.

Henrique, I wouldn't mind.

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Not interested in Kostka

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A prospect for a proven commodity and you'd be physically ill? Maybe wait until the prospect even plays an NHL season before going that far.
Who's the proven commodity you're referring to? The massively overpaid Zajac, or the one hit wonder Henrique?

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Don't see the Leafs doing that. If it was offered up I would make that deal in a heart beat. I quite like Gardiner. I might trade the 7th straight up for him. Donno if the Leafs would even go for that.
I'm also a fan of Gardiner, that said I see the pick as our best bet to acquire a center with size and skill so if we move that pick then we are pretty much giving Gagner the keys to our 2nd line C spot for the next 4-5 years IMO.

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Definitely if it was Zajac with his contract.

Henrique, I wouldn't mind.
I just don't see him ever repeating his rookie season. I'd like to get him, but not for Klefbom

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Wow, surprised how against Henrique for Klefbom people are.
I'd definitely need some time to think over that one.

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I'm also a fan of Gardiner, that said I see the pick as our best bet to acquire a center with size and skill so if we move that pick then we are pretty much giving Gagner the keys to our 2nd line C spot for the next 4-5 years IMO.
I feel like Gardiner can be a top pairing puck mover which I value more than a 2nd line center. He's also closer to being that impact player than whoever we pick at 7 who will be at least a couple years away from being a legit #2 center and who knows may never be better than Gagner is now.

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Wow, surprised how against Henrique for Klefbom people are.
I'd definitely need some time to think over that one.
I'm against it because i think that Klefbom has huge upside. I feel that he could have a Brodin level impact and is the perfect D partner for Schultz if he pans out IMO.
Henrique is good but i don't see much upside there. I think that Klefbom will be a more valuable player than Henrique in a couple of years. It'll be a big mistake to trade him now.

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Definitely if it was Zajac with his contract.

Henrique, I wouldn't mind.
I'm not even really considering any trade proposals involving Klefbom. The stories I've seen about how the team has been grooming him makes me think he's all but untouchable.

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I'm not really sure New Jersey would be trading Henrique either.

They're running really low on top6 talent right now.

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Potentially losing Clarkson and Elias will have NJ clinging to Henrique with rigormortis grip, JMO THOUGH

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Never realized how many free agents the Devils have this summer; Elias, Zubrus, Clarkson, Sullivan, Ponikarovsky, Kostopoulos, Zidlicky, and Harrold. Plus Loktiononv, Henrique, Josefson and D'Agostini are RFA's.

Zajac and Kovy are the only forwards signed past the 2013-2014 season.

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Never realized how many free agents the Devils have this summer; Elias, Zubrus, Clarkson, Sullivan, Ponikarovsky, Kostopoulos, Zidlicky, and Harrold. Plus Loktiononv, Henrique, Josefson and D'Agostini are RFA's.

Zajac and Kovy are the only forwards signed past the 2013-2014 season.
Their top6 RWers right now are Steve Bernier and Matt D'Agostini haha.

They seem like the perfect team to make a big move and move up for Nichushkin.

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