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06-21-2013, 02:32 PM
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Stephane Yelle? Sergei Brylin? Warren Rychel?

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06-21-2013, 02:43 PM
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06-21-2013, 02:45 PM
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Yelle is a good one. Can't remember if he was always an actual 4th-liner or not, but he was a prototypical PK'ing, faceoff winning, star-shadowing 4th line center.

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06-21-2013, 04:15 PM
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Yelle is a good one. Can't remember if he was always an actual 4th-liner or not, but he was a prototypical PK'ing, faceoff winning, star-shadowing 4th line center.
he played on the third line in calgary when they went to the finals, and often was on their second line while he was there.

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06-21-2013, 05:53 PM
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06-22-2013, 02:03 PM
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PJ Axelsson maybe?
One of swedens most underrated defensive wingers together with Erixon. Both of them were used in top-6 roles as shadowers quite alot.

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06-22-2013, 05:20 PM
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Brian Skrudland may be a good nomination...

Jim Peplinski ...though he didnt have as much longevity. Maybe Joel Otto too...

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06-22-2013, 05:56 PM
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06-22-2013, 06:34 PM
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06-22-2013, 10:54 PM
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06-22-2013, 11:13 PM
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Can I put Tom Kostopoulos on the board?
Tommy Non-Stopolous? Why not. He's played
for what now, 6 NHL teams since 2001 or so?

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06-22-2013, 11:25 PM
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The recently retired Scott Nichol, although he might have played up the lineup at some point. Always thought he was an exceptional 4th liner.

Draper was elevated in the lineup quite a bit, Maltby almost always stuck to the fourth line. I know he got some decent ice-time because of his ability to PK, but he was a fourth liner pretty much his entire career.

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06-22-2013, 11:50 PM
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He actually played ont he 2nd line quite a bit, in a defensive role. I loved and raved about the guy.
Axelsson was an absolutely excellent defensive player. Very underrated.

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06-24-2013, 03:14 AM
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Maltby and Draper shouldn't count due to how Bowman rolled lines.

Kocur is a better example honestly.

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06-24-2013, 10:53 AM
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Jared Boll maybe?

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06-24-2013, 11:05 AM
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Jared Boll maybe?
Maltby and Draper played in the Olympics I believe.

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06-24-2013, 11:06 AM
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Maltby and Draper played in the Olympics I believe.
No, 2004 World Cup. Maltby never got in a game, though.

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06-24-2013, 11:23 AM
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No, 2004 World Cup. Maltby never got in a game, though.
I stand corrected. Both were great skaters. If you want to stick around todays NHL you have to be able to skate. Dorsett and Boll, besides being able and willing to drop the gloves, are both very good skaters. Tootoo is a great skater same as a guy like Daniel Paille. All will and have long careers because of there ability to get in on the forecheck. Prust is probably the most prized fourth liner because he can fight and has skill. He was great for Montreal this past season.

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06-24-2013, 12:24 PM
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Shean Donovan came immediately to mind. Not too good a skater, average to below average offensive skills (topped at 40 points), good depth player that you need for a playoff run but could be run over by Pat Burns' proverbial car and no one would know whom they ran over.

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06-24-2013, 01:17 PM
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Tie Domi comes to mind immediately.

If not fighters or guys valued primarily for fighting... Craig Adams, Dan Bylsma, Jeremy Stevenson, Grant Marshall, Turner Stevenson, Kevyn Adams, Rene corbet, Stephane Veilleux, Jamal Meyers, Scott Nichol, Kris King.

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06-24-2013, 01:37 PM
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Brian Skrudland may be a good nomination...

Jim Peplinski ...though he didnt have as much longevity. Maybe Joel Otto too...
I wouldn't call Skrudland, Peplinski & Otto fourth liners, as they spent many years as 2nd-3rd line guys.

With the exception of his first couple of years, Ron Wilson was pretty much a fourth line center his entire career. Kevin McClelland & Dave Semenko pretty much stayed fourth liners their entire Oiler careers.

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06-24-2013, 01:42 PM
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I'll suggest Marty Reasoner

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06-24-2013, 01:43 PM
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Oh, yeah, & I think a case could be made for Doug Jarvis: mostly the fourth line center for Montreal & Washington, possibly the best faceoff man of his era, usually worked on the fourth line at ES, got lots of PK time & was brought out to take important draws.

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06-24-2013, 03:06 PM
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Tie Domi comes to mind immediately.

If not fighters or guys valued primarily for fighting... Craig Adams, Dan Bylsma, Jeremy Stevenson, Grant Marshall, Turner Stevenson, Kevyn Adams, Rene corbet, Stephane Veilleux, Jamal Meyers, Scott Nichol, Kris King.
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I wouldn't call Skrudland, Peplinski & Otto fourth liners, as they spent many years as 2nd-3rd line guys.

With the exception of his first couple of years, Ron Wilson was pretty much a fourth line center his entire career. Kevin McClelland & Dave Semenko pretty much stayed fourth liners their entire Oiler careers.
maybe a distinction needs to be made between guys who were known as fighters first, but were also useful fourth liners (my choice tim hunter, but also mentioned above are kevin mcclelland and joey kocur, and i'm thinking mike peluso on the '95 devils is another), and guys who straight up were only in the league because of fighting (domi, for instance).


example: on the '94 canucks, you had tim hunter and gino odjick. gino only played in half the games, because a straight up enforcer's usefulness in the playoffs is limited, especially if you have other very tough guys in the lineup (hunter, momesso, shawn antoski). the fourth line was defensive specialist john mcintyre, hunter, and shawn antoski.


more on antoski: was a first round pick in 1990 who was picked for his size (this guy coached at my hockey camp one year and was literally the biggest person i'd ever seen-- a lindros-esque 6'4, 230 pounder), and his star-level tools (as a big man he could skate like young linden, and he had a very heavy shot). he was picked in the first round for the same reason pat quinn took alek stojanov (best known as the guy he traded to the pens for markus naslund) at #7 between forsberg and matvichuk the next year: has a lindros body, could fight, has the tools, and there's a chance he puts all those things together and becomes the player todd bertuzzi became, but if not you've got a brad may or ian laperriere, which is a useful thing too. obviously in retrospect quinn picked the wrong big huge project (tkachuk was the pick immediately after antoski), but on the other hand antoski played a useful crash and bang role on hunter's opposite wing in '94 and probably was on his way to a long career as a big fourth line banger/fighter if not for a devastating string of injuries (a chronic hernia, then a car crash that fractured his skull and ended his career).

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