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Buffalo Re-Signs Jhonas Enroth [2 Year deal/$1,250,000 AAV]

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06-20-2013, 10:19 AM
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Buffalo Re-Signs Jhonas Enroth [2 Year deal/$1,250,000 AAV]

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BREAKING NEWS: The Buffalo Sabres have signed goaltender Jhonas Enroth to a two-year contract.
First reply is "So Miller out?" which one has to wonder if it might be the case.

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Miller to St. Louis for Halak and Joel Edmundson.

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per Sabres team twitter

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First reply is "So Miller out?" which one has to wonder if it might be the case.
Huh...Enroth signing is an indication that Miller's gone now? Regier may move him, but I don't see what re-signing our RFA back-up has to do with it.

Anyway, I'm guessing around 1.5m per.

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per Sabres team twitter

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First reply is "So Miller out?" which one has to wonder if it might be the case.
I mean, Miller might be leaving town, but I don't think Enroth is really a suitable replacement. Enroth has been okay, but he hasn't shown that he's really ready to be a starter.

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Huh...Enroth signing is an indication that Miller's gone now? Regier may move him, but I don't see what re-signing our RFA back-up has to do with it.

Anyway, I'm guessing around 1.5m per.
With how much the team seems to covet Matt Hackett (Acquiring him in the Pominville) deal, it would seem that if Buffalo were planning on keeping Miller, they would probably have let Enroth go/traded him. Re-signing him, keeping Miller and leaving Hackett in the AHL probably wouldn't be a great idea, hence why the Enroth re-signing leads to thoughts that Miller is headed out.

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I mean, Miller might be leaving town, but I don't think Enroth is really a suitable replacement. Enroth has been okay, but he hasn't shown that he's really ready to be a starter.
Enroth looked every bit like a #1 goalie in the WHCs this offseason, I have to imagine Swedish teams made overtures to him about coming back and taking the #1 job, so for him to re-sign in Buffalo, I'd imagine promises were made about a greatly-increased schedule.

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Good for the Sabres and Enroth

I really think the Sabres will try to move Miller this off season

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The amount will be telling.

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With how much the team seems to covet Matt Hackett (Acquiring him in the Pominville) deal, it would seem that if Buffalo were planning on keeping Miller, they would probably have let Enroth go/traded him. Re-signing him, keeping Miller and leaving Hackett in the AHL probably wouldn't be a great idea, hence why the Enroth re-signing leads to thoughts that Miller is headed out.
Agreed. With all the goalies apparently on the market (Lu, Bernier, Ward(?)), I hope the Sabres can get a good return.

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With how much the team seems to covet Matt Hackett (Acquiring him in the Pominville) deal, it would seem that if Buffalo were planning on keeping Miller, they would probably have let Enroth go/traded him. Re-signing him, keeping Miller and leaving Hackett in the AHL probably wouldn't be a great idea, hence why the Enroth re-signing leads to thoughts that Miller is headed out.


Enroth looked every bit like a #1 goalie in the WHCs this offseason, I have to imagine Swedish teams made overtures to him about coming back and taking the #1 job, so for him to re-sign in Buffalo, I'd imagine promises were made about a greatly-increased schedule.
Where did you get the idea the Sabres "covet" Hackett? He hasn't been all that heralded by anyone in the organization, and he didn't even get many starts in the AHL over Leggio (until Leggio blew a few playoff games). Obviously they like him a bit, or they wouldn't have traded for him, but he's hardly the shiniest toy in the prospect pool. Enroth may have a 5-hole the size of Alaska, but he's far more established as an NHLer than Hackett. If they were keeping Miller, the goalie they'd let go is Leggio, so Hackett could start for Rochester. And Enroth would keep doing what he has been, backing up Miller.

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I don't know much about Enroth - does he have starter potential?

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Enroth was really good at the worlds this year. The signing won't have a major effect on Miller but it would not surprise me if he was dealt in any case.

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I don't know much about Enroth - does he have starter potential?
Maybe. He's got a decent career sv% (slightly better than Bernier in a similar # of games) and has played some really impressive stretches of hockey, including under Rolston this year and at Worlds after the season ended. But he also, at one point, went ~14 starts without winning a single game and has a tendency to let weak goals 5-hole. Plus he's smaller than ideal for a modern NHL goalie.

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What they do with Leggio will be more telling.

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What they do with Leggio will be more telling.
If they don't trade Miller by July 5, Leggio probably isn't waiting around to find out.

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Enroth's two-year deal in Buffalo: $1.25 million per year

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I said this in our own thread but this re-signing has 0 to do with Miller. If Buffalo keeps Miller, Enroth is the back-up. Even if for some pointless reason they wanted to get rid of Enroth and force Hackett into the back-up roll they'd still do well to re-sign the guy and try getting any measure of draft pick out of him.

He's the only established goalie in our entire system outside of Miller. Hackett is knocking at the door for a back-up job, but there's no reason to force the issue either. If Miller's traded it's because of some combination of the right deal being there, the direction of the team necessitates acquiring more rebuild assets, and the unlikelihood of him re-signing. Personally I think they should trade him even if the deals are lousy, as they likely will be.

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Where did you get the idea the Sabres "covet" Hackett?
Minnesota had to scramble around to acquire a goaltender (Picking up Jeff Deslauriers from Anaheim) to replace Hackett in their system, so they obviously weren't just giving Hackett away/planning his departure, Hackett was a guy Buffalo must have asked for, otherwise the Wild would have been content to let Hackett and Kuemper continue to play out the season.

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If they were keeping Miller, the goalie they'd let go is Leggio, so Hackett could start for Rochester.
Not necessarily. Buffalo already has Connor Knapp, Nathan Lieuwen, and Andrey Makarov under contract (Assuming Makarov makes the jump to pros, which I'm assuming he will). Hackett staying in the AHL would necessitate two of those guys playing in the ECHL, which isn't ideal. I think Leggio's gone regardless.

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Minnesota had to scramble around to acquire a goaltender (Picking up Jeff Deslauriers from Anaheim) to replace Hackett in their system, so they obviously weren't just giving Hackett away/planning his departure, Hackett was a guy Buffalo must have asked for, otherwise the Wild would have been content to let Hackett and Kuemper continue to play out the season.


Not necessarily. Buffalo already has Connor Knapp, Nathan Lieuwen, and Andrey Makarov under contract (Assuming Makarov makes the jump to pros, which I'm assuming he will). Hackett staying in the AHL would necessitate two of those guys playing in the ECHL, which isn't ideal. I think Leggio's gone regardless.
Lieuwen and Knapp both belong in the ECHL (both have had some chances in the AHL, and neither was very good), so having the 2 of them there actually would be ideal. Leggio's been Rochester's regular season MVP for the past 2 years now, so I don't think the Amerks first choice would be letting him go, and I think what happens with him could be telling. If he gets re-signed, I'll take that as an indication that the Sabres don't plan on having Hackett in the AHL, because, at this point in his career, I doubt there's much for him to gain as an AHL back-up.

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Minnesota had to scramble around to acquire a goaltender (Picking up Jeff Deslauriers from Anaheim) to replace Hackett in their system, so they obviously weren't just giving Hackett away/planning his departure, Hackett was a guy Buffalo must have asked for, otherwise the Wild would have been content to let Hackett and Kuemper continue to play out the season.


Not necessarily. Buffalo already has Connor Knapp, Nathan Lieuwen, and Andrey Makarov under contract (Assuming Makarov makes the jump to pros, which I'm assuming he will). Hackett staying in the AHL would necessitate two of those guys playing in the ECHL, which isn't ideal. I think Leggio's gone regardless.
Watching Lieuwen and Knapp, those two should be playing in the ECHL until they show they can improve their overall game. I could see them rolling with Hackett and Makarov in the AHL to start since both Lieuwen and Knapp have a LOT of work to do right now.

JW had a solid point on the Sabres board -- giving him 2 years takes him up to UFA, meaning they likely aren't sold on Enroth as the long-term heir to Miller when they finally do deal him.

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With how much the team seems to covet Matt Hackett (Acquiring him in the Pominville) deal, it would seem that if Buffalo were planning on keeping Miller, they would probably have let Enroth go/traded him. Re-signing him, keeping Miller and leaving Hackett in the AHL probably wouldn't be a great idea, hence why the Enroth re-signing leads to thoughts that Miller is headed out.


Enroth looked every bit like a #1 goalie in the WHCs this offseason, I have to imagine Swedish teams made overtures to him about coming back and taking the #1 job, so for him to re-sign in Buffalo, I'd imagine promises were made about a greatly-increased schedule.
I agree with your assessment. I think they will roll a 1a/1b situation with Enroth and Hackett. As a Sabres fans I am ok with that and think it is the right move.

As to the proposed trade: Assuming the above assessment is indeed correct, they would not be looking to take back a goalie (Halak).

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Minnesota had to scramble around to acquire a goaltender (Picking up Jeff Deslauriers from Anaheim) to replace Hackett in their system, so they obviously weren't just giving Hackett away/planning his departure, Hackett was a guy Buffalo must have asked for, otherwise the Wild would have been content to let Hackett and Kuemper continue to play out the season.
Clearly they valued him but you have to understand that Enroth is literally the only thing worth a crap in our system. They need a guy like Hackett while the likelihood of losing Miller looms. Enroth has done well and he's done poorly, the bottom line is he hasn't sewn up the role of the future in net. That doesn't mean bringing in Hackett means he's more valued than Enroth, it just means the chances of being able to replace Miller are increased.

As I said, I want Miller to be shipped out. Go into the season expecting Enroth and Hackett to split the games with obvious allowance for whichever of the two is performing best. If it blows up in our face let's hope it does so to the tune of Ekblad, rather than our all-too-familiar gut-wrenching race to 10th place. I just don't think re-signing Enroth means anything. In the case that they keep Miller, Hackett won't be hurt starting the year off in the AHL.

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Not necessarily. Buffalo already has Connor Knapp, Nathan Lieuwen, and Andrey Makarov under contract (Assuming Makarov makes the jump to pros, which I'm assuming he will). Hackett staying in the AHL would necessitate two of those guys playing in the ECHL, which isn't ideal. I think Leggio's gone regardless.
Knapp and Lieuwen combined for 12 starts for the Amerks last season. They got their time in the ECHL and frankly neither impressed at that level. Knapp should be out of the picture. Lieuwen may be deserving of another chance but it's not going to be as starter for the Amerks.

I have hopes Makarov might be something, but unless Miller stays, leaving Hackett in Rochester, the Amerks will need some legitimate starter. Leggio would be the ideal candidate since he's a local boy and was excellent last year. I don't think he wants to come back unless Miller's traded and he's given the chance to back up Enroth while Hackett starts off in Rochester.

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Good deal. It's all up to Enroth now.

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JW had a solid point on the Sabres board -- giving him 2 years takes him up to UFA, meaning they likely aren't sold on Enroth as the long-term heir to Miller when they finally do deal him.
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With how much the team seems to covet Matt Hackett (Acquiring him in the Pominville) deal, it would seem that if Buffalo were planning on keeping Miller, they would probably have let Enroth go/traded him. Re-signing him, keeping Miller and leaving Hackett in the AHL probably wouldn't be a great idea, hence why the Enroth re-signing leads to thoughts that Miller is headed out.


Enroth looked every bit like a #1 goalie in the WHCs this offseason, I have to imagine Swedish teams made overtures to him about coming back and taking the #1 job, so for him to re-sign in Buffalo, I'd imagine promises were made about a greatly-increased schedule.
I wonder about the latter given how low he signed for. $1M is standard back up goalie money.

Buffalo feels they wont have Miller after 13/14 season....dont see resigning him given the rebuild/retool.

Buffalo also has Hackett and Leggio(currently a UFA)...for a long time Leggio was in Rochester doing a decent job but Miller was up so he was stuck. It will be interesting to see if they also give Leggio a shot. Hackett does have one more year left of waiver exemptions for call ups.

It will be interesting to see if Miller is moved at the draft as part of a trade up or a deal for players/picks.

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