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07-04-2013, 01:09 PM
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Ellerby signed to a 1-year deal

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Well, this sucks. Cya later Scuds.

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My guess is that he was not qualified so that the Kings could sign him for less than what the QO would have been. Hopefully it's also a two-way deal. He still had to earn the right to be a 7th-8th defenseman in the NHL.

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Well, this sucks. Cya later Scuds.
Scuds may very well be leaving, but this deal doesn't mean that.

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there we go that makes more sense...

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Scuds may very well be leaving, but this deal doesn't mean that.
Wouldn't that give us eight defensemen then (if we signed Scuds)?

I don't think we roll with 8 dmen to start the year and I don't think the Kings signed Ellerby to start in the AHL.

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Scuds may very well be leaving, but this deal doesn't mean that.
It doesn't necessarily mean he's gone but this is probably reassurance in case he does go. We now have a clog on D though. Ugh. I hope this means Willie's healthy

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Well that sucks.

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It doesn't necessarily mean he's gone but this is probably reassurance in case he does go. We now have a clog on D though. Ugh. I hope this means Willie's healthy
Well if willie was healthy I think he wouldn't of signed Ellerby. Seems like a panic signing by DL.

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Well if willie was healthy I think he wouldn't of signed Ellerby. Seems like a panic signing by DL.
How is it a panic signing? Maybe they want an 8th defenseman on the roster in case they run into injury problems like they did this past season? Does that make any sense to you at all?

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Well if willie was healthy I think he wouldn't of signed Ellerby. Seems like a panic signing by DL.
He doesn't panic. More like an insurance signing.

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My guess is that he was not qualified so that the Kings could sign him for less than what the QO would have been. Hopefully it's also a two-way deal. He still had to earn the right to be a 7th-8th defenseman in the NHL.
Might be for LESS money (though he was only making $700,000 so the MQO would have been only a 5% raise) ... but he's played too many games for a 2-way deal, he'll be making the full NHL contract amount even if he's playing in the AHL or ECHL, and he'll be subject to waivers as well. He's just FINE as a #7 D-man you really are being hyper critical of the kid, but hey that's cool, it's what you do.

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Well if willie was healthy I think he wouldn't of signed Ellerby. Seems like a panic signing by DL.
Ellerby will be the 2013 version of Davis Drewiskie. Not bad if the cap hit is low which it probably is. Dean never panics.

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Wouldn't that give us eight defensemen then (if we signed Scuds)?

I don't think we roll with 8 dmen to start the year and I don't think the Kings signed Ellerby to start in the AHL.
I think we're going to roll with 8 defensemen due to some injury concerns. Mitchell's knee, Greene's back...

The Kings have a plan and I think part of that plan was always to bring Ellerby back and develop him.

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Might be for LESS money (though he was only making $700,000 so the MQO would have been only a 5% raise) ... but he's played too many games for a 2-way deal, he'll be making the full NHL contract amount even if he's playing in the AHL or ECHL, and he'll be subject to waivers as well. He's just FINE as a #7 D-man you really are being hyper critical of the kid, but hey that's cool, it's what you do.
He wasn't qualified and was retained, meaning the organization felt he wasn't worth what he was earning. How am I being hypercritical? Maybe you're just oversensitive and should develop a backbone and form your own opinions?

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07-04-2013, 01:28 PM
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I personally thought Ellerby was fine besides the Muzzerby disaster, this makes me think that DL is starting to look past Scuds.

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Scuderi>Regehr + Ellerby. Not a fan of this signing, another NHL player who is kept around far too long just because the scouts were wrong. This is the salary cap era though, you can't pick and choose who you want like a fantasy hockey team and Scuderi is going to get paid based on the horrible contracts that have been handed out BEFORE free agency has even started. Elias for 16 million? Scuderi is worth 6 to a contender.

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Anyone who paid any attention to Ellerby's play knew that there is no friggin' way they'd bother wasted time and money on trying to turn chicken poop into chicken salad. He is as dumb as a rock and has zero upside.
That's how ... guess YOU were WRONG and there IS A WAY.

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As others have said, I too think this might just be a case of the Kings simply wanting to sign him for a lower amount than his qualifying offer. We'll see when the numbers come out. Hopefully this does not mean the end of Scuderi, either case it will almost certainly mean the end of Muzzin or Martinez.

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That's how ... guess YOU were WRONG and there IS A WAY.
So they brought him back for less to replace Davis Drewiske as the designated healthy scratch for 75% of the season. Yeah, major upside there.

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They must see enough in him to think they have something to work with. He had his bad moments, but he also had stretches where he played his position. There's upside somewhere in there.

This signing gives DL options and having options are better than having no options.

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Very smart on DL's part since he's going to make less and that frees up cap space, no matter how small.

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I figured that Lombardi just didn't want to give him a raise, and wanted to sign Ellerby for less. Dean likes this kid as a project.

Let's give Sutter and his staff an entire training camp, and possibly a season with the kid as a #7 defenseman. I bet we see some results.

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As others have said, I too think this might just be a case of the Kings simply wanting to sign him for a lower amount than his qualifying offer. We'll see when the numbers come out. Hopefully this does not mean the end of Scuderi, either case it will almost certainly mean the end of Muzzin or Martinez.
I seriously doubt that Muzzin will be the odd man out, and if Scuderi doesn't re-sign with the Kings it won't be the end of the world if they roll with.

Doughty - Regehr

Voynov - Mitchell

Muzzin/Martinez - Greene

It's possible that Martinez may still be traded. They have all training camp and preseason to make that decision.

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I think we're going to roll with 8 defensemen due to some injury concerns. Mitchell's knee, Greene's back...

The Kings have a plan and I think part of that plan was always to bring Ellerby back and develop him.
A definite possibility.


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Poor CNS just had his holiday ruined...Hell its CNS, probably just had his whole summer ruined by this.

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No Scuderi to Pittsburgh.

@RobRossi_Trib: #TribHKY Touched base again with Scuderi camp. Perhaps playing coy, but belief there is finances make return to #pens unlikely.

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