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06-23-2013, 02:03 PM
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Please no.

A small, soft center who is useless when not scoring points.

Rather resign Bozak than trade assets for Gagner.
Thank god. I thought I was the only one. When I read people think it's a good idea to acquire him, I throw up in my mouth.

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06-23-2013, 02:05 PM
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Jvr - Gagner - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Mcclement - Grabovski - Kulemin
Mclaren - Colborne - Orr

Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Liles - O'Byrne
Fraser - Franson

Reimer
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06-23-2013, 02:08 PM
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Thank god. I thought I was the only one. When I read people think it's a good idea to acquire him, I throw up in my mouth.
There is a reason even the bottom dwelling, center deprived Oilers don't want him.

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Jvr - Gagner - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Mcclement - Grabovski - Kulemin
Mclaren - Colborne - Orr

Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Liles - O'Byrne
Fraser - Franson

Reimer
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Sexy 10th place team is sexy.

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06-23-2013, 02:08 PM
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Gagner was on pace for 65 points in a full 82 game campaign. Between kessel and jvr that could go up. But we shouldn't over pay, maybe pick him up in a package.

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Jvr - Gagner - Kessel
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson
Mcclement - Grabovski - Kulemin
Mclaren - Colborne - Orr

Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Liles - O'Byrne
Fraser - Franson

Reimer
Bernier
Yeah... the more I consider Ganger in a Leafs uniform, the more I detest the thought of acquiring him.

Really, really not what the Leafs need.

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Gards>>>>>>>>>>>>>7th

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06-23-2013, 02:09 PM
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Phanuef + 2nd 2013

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Gagner + 7th overall

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At least with Gagner as a Leaf we'd actually score a goal in the shootout.

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06-23-2013, 02:11 PM
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Phanuef + 2nd 2013

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Gagner + 7th overall
Wtf are we adding a 2nd for?

It would be Phaneuf for the 7th, Smid and a prospect like Marincin. Its a lot, but hes a bloody all star and our captain.

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06-23-2013, 02:12 PM
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Phanuef + 2nd 2013

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Gagner + 7th overall

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Rangers fan here. Are the Leafs really considering shipping out Phaneuf? What would be a suitable return for him?
Young players with potential that isn't completely tapped at this point (Case in point: JVR and Bernier being the last two notable players the Leafs have acquired through trade).

I think from the Rangers, Leafs would target somebody like Hagelin or Krieder. Not necessarily for Phaneuf straight up (I'm sure there'd be some adding on both sides until it balances out), but that would be the kind of player that Nonis would probably target on the Rangers. Unless Stepan is available (and I assume he isn't).

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Rangers fan here. Are the Leafs really considering shipping out Phaneuf? What would be a suitable return for him?
I'd consider Girardi ++ for him. Thoughts?

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06-23-2013, 02:15 PM
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Wtf are we adding a 2nd for?

It would be Phaneuf for the 7th, Smid and a prospect like Marincin. Its a lot, but hes a bloody all star and our captain.
We would have to add because 7 overall will be one of Monahan, Lindholm or Nichushkin

Also he only has 1 year left

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06-23-2013, 02:17 PM
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We would have to add because 7 overall will be one of Monahan, Lindholm or Nichushkin
So?

Phaneuf is a bonafide #1Dman.

Monahan and etc. are huge question marks and Gagner is not even wanted on a bottom dwelling Oilers team with no center depth.

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06-23-2013, 02:19 PM
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I'd consider Girardi ++ for him. Thoughts?
depends on what the ++ is...... I think Girardi plus a good prospect like Marek Hrivik or Brady Skjei would do it. Girardi makes your D corps instantly better.

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06-23-2013, 02:21 PM
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We would have to add because 7 overall will be one of Monahan, Lindholm or Nichushkin
None of which are worth Dion straight up - not close.

If NYR want Dion, they pay a premium to acquire a player from the same conference, since we are likely reluctant to trade him to a rival.

Girardi, Hagelin get the conversation started.

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06-23-2013, 02:26 PM
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Bob McKenzie Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 50s

"@DarrenDreger: Rumblings Phaneuf in play. Nonis says he'll trade almost anyone, says no one called on captain...yet."/Hearing same rumors.
Wow. Interesting times. Nonis is looking at really shaking things up. Either this goes well or we are in the McDavid lottery. I don't think mediocrity is going to be an option :-)

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None of which are worth Dion straight up - not close.

If NYR want Dion, they pay a premium to acquire a player from the same conference, since we are likely reluctant to trade him to a rival.

Girardi, Hagelin get the conversation started.
Perhaps we'd see a conditional pick from the Leafs involved in case Phaneuf does not re-sign and moves on?

A one year rental of Phaneuf isn't enough to land multiple blue chippers.

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06-23-2013, 02:29 PM
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Wow. Interesting times. Nonis is looking at really shaking things up. Either this goes well or we are in the McDavid lottery. I don't think mediocrity is going to be an option :-)
BINGO.

16 teams make the playoffs on an annual basis (I don't know the rules going forward) so just being in the first round isn't something a good team celebrates, they expect it.

Even Burke said he could have made a trade to get him into the playoffs in previous years, but it isn't about being mediocre.

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06-23-2013, 02:33 PM
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Don't want gagner whatsoever.

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06-23-2013, 02:40 PM
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BINGO.

16 teams make the playoffs on an annual basis (I don't know the rules going forward) so just being in the first round isn't something a good team celebrates, they expect it.

Even Burke said he could have made a trade to get him into the playoffs in previous years, but it isn't about being mediocre.
UFA status aside, maybe we add a conditional pick going the other way if Dion walks, whatever. Frankly i see Lupul or JVR going long before Dion.

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06-23-2013, 02:44 PM
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That's what I would do if Phanuef walks for nothing and we could have added 7th overall and a decent young center...

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an EDM fan posted this on the main board

Edm Trades:
Rights to Ganger
7th Overall

Toronto Trades:
Gardiner
Rights to Bozak
no thanks, Gardnier worth 2 way more than that, in fact pretty much untouchable IMO

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Phanuef + 2nd 2013

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Gagner + 7th overall
I'd do that, but if the Leafs pick up Gagner, they need to trade Grabbo, and pick up a centre with size, someone like Laiche; Gaulstad; Wilson.

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