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Jonathan Bernier to TML for Matt Frattin, Ben Scrivens, & 2nd ('14 or '15) (pst#276)

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06-21-2013, 04:14 PM
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Jonathan Bernier to TML for Matt Frattin, Ben Scrivens, & 2nd ('14 or '15) (pst#276)

First thread at its limit. Continue on with the dream trades vs other team calling him a backup and lowballing offers.

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So it's down to the Flyers, Wild, and Leafs.

Interesting, considering Minny doesn't have a first-round pick.

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So it's down to the Flyers, Wild, and Leafs.

Interesting, considering Minny doesn't have a first-round pick.
Wild have a very very good prospect pool. Lots of young talent they can afford to move to land Bernier if they wanted to.

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So it's down to the Flyers, Wild, and Leafs.

Interesting, considering Minny doesn't have a first-round pick.
Would you rather get a 1st round pick and a so-so prospect or a good establishing young player and a 2nd?

I don't think the Maple Leafs are giving up the 21st overall pick and Frattin.

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So it's down to the Flyers, Wild, and Leafs.

Interesting, considering Minny doesn't have a first-round pick.
Where did this info come from???

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Where did this info come from???
RDS.

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Would you rather get a 1st round pick and a so-so prospect or a good establishing young player and a 2nd?

I don't think the Maple Leafs are giving up the 21st overall pick and Frattin.
It all depends on the pick and good established young player being offered. I'd rather have a first over Frattin, since I know thats what you're thinking.

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RDS.



It all depends on the pick and good established young player being offered. I'd rather have a first over Frattin, since I know thats what you're thinking.
I'll believe it when Bernier is traded. (Curls into fetal position)

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RDS.

It all depends on the pick and good established young player being offered. I'd rather have a first over Frattin, since I know thats what you're thinking.
You're picking 18 year olds late in the 1st round and hoping they become 50-60 point NHL forwards or second pairing defencemen in the NHL. Matt Frattin will be that in the next 3 years and fits in with the team. I don't understand the logic behind a late 1st rounder being better than a guy like Matt Frattin.

You're already one of the 5 youngest teams in the league.

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Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS 18m 3 teams are in the running for Jonathan Bernier. Kings are going to take the best offer from Maple Leafs, Flyers or Wild. #RDS

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Would Kings fans be interested in having another goalie back? Because I honestly don't want the Wild to trade for Bernier.

Hopefully they offered Clutterbuck's rights + picks and not high prospects. In fact, please don't take the Wild's offer.

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You're picking 18 year olds late in the 1st round and hoping they become 50-60 point NHL forwards or second pairing defencemen in the NHL. Matt Frattin will be that in the next 3 years and fits in with the team. I don't understand the logic behind a late 1st rounder being better than a guy like Matt Frattin.

You're already one of the 5 youngest teams in the league.
He's a RWer. He'd be our 4th best RWer and none of them are going to swap to the LW. We don't need RWers. The only roster spots we have available are on the left side. What we do need is another higher end prospect as we're short on them. We have time to draft and develop a player. Our immediate NHL needs are short and Frattin doesn't help this team much unless he can play 2nd line LW.

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You're picking 18 year olds late in the 1st round and hoping they become 50-60 point NHL forwards or second pairing defencemen in the NHL. Matt Frattin will be that in the next 3 years and fits in with the team. I don't understand the logic behind a late 1st rounder being better than a guy like Matt Frattin.

You're already one of the 5 youngest teams in the league.
The number of high-end prospects in the system is minimal, a 1st round pick could bring that, they already have numerous Frattin bottom 6 types in the system.

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Would Kings fans be interested in having another goalie back? Because I honestly don't want the Wild to trade for Bernier.

Hopefully they offered Clutterbuck's rights + picks and not high prospects. In fact, please don't take the Wild's offer.
We don't need Clutter. He too is a RWer. We don't need any RWers. Plus he'd probably be too expensive. We'd need someone younger, cheaper, and a LWer. Or prospects and picks.

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Would Kings fans be interested in having another goalie back? Because I honestly don't want the Wild to trade for Bernier.

Hopefully they offered Clutterbuck's rights + picks and not high prospects. In fact, please don't take the Wild's offer.
I think it's safe to say, if Minny offers that, then the kings would say no

As for a goalie, depends on who and the caphit.

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If it's the Wild, I'm thinking that Lombardi has his sights set on Coyle or Zucker, and my guess is that the Wild will not be parting with Coyle.

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We don't need Clutter. He too is a RWer. We don't need any RWers. Plus he'd probably be too expensive. We'd need someone younger, cheaper, and a LWer. Or prospects and picks.
Good to know.

Hopefully Lombardi thinks the same way!

EDIT: And doesn't ask for high prospects.. Doubtful.


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Frattin can also shift to LW.

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If it's the Wild, I'm thinking that Lombardi has his sights set on Coyle or Zucker, and my guess is that the Wild will not be parting with Coyle.
This is what I'm thinking too. But there was the news that Toronto offered a significant package for him and if Minny is still in the running, you'd think there MIGHT be a possibility it is Coyle. How sweet would it be to have a Sharks first rounder come over to our team and light them up? I want Coyle just for that reason. Cause **** SJ.

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You've got to think of all the teams out there Toronto would give the best offer. And that is simply because Leiweke is in the very unique position of know exactly how good Bernier is. Yes others have seen him but he really knows him.

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Frattin can also shift to LW.
I'd still rather have Read or sign Holloway to fill that hole over Frattin. I'm just not high on Frattin at all.

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This is what I'm thinking too. But there was the news that Toronto offered a significant package for him and if Minny is still in the running, you'd think there MIGHT be a possibility it is Coyle. How sweet would it be to have a Sharks first rounder come over to our team and light them up? I want Coyle just for that reason. Cause **** SJ.
And from what we saw of Coyle (at least in games against Kings) he looks like a gamer and can be inserted into the lineup as opposed to waiting for a prospect to develop.

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Would you rather get a 1st round pick and a so-so prospect or a good establishing young player and a 2nd?
I want to have my cake and pee on it too!

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I'd love Jason Zucker but I don't think the Wild are willing to part with him.

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Trading Coyle or Zucker would be a ****ing huge mistake. I don't think GMCF is dumb enough to propose a deal around one of them for Bernier.

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So it's down to the Flyers, Wild, and Leafs.

Interesting, considering Minny doesn't have a first-round pick.

LoL, Clutterbuck?

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