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Carolina willing to trade down from 5th overall?

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06-21-2013, 09:18 PM
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Carolina willing to trade down from 5th overall?

https://twitter.com/ice_chip/status/348192962188025856

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Hearing Canes could trade No. 5 pick and move down on draft day if their draft target is taken in top four picks. Unlikely Canes to move up.

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06-21-2013, 09:23 PM
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Puempel +17th for 5th overall.

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06-21-2013, 09:23 PM
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I want the Devils to go for this. management seems to have interest in Nichushkin and Monahan and this is the perfect opportunity

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Previously discussed with some receptiveness:

5 + Zac Dalpe + Justin Peters for 12th + Brandon Gormley

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Diaz + Desharnais + 25th for 5th overall.

There. I got it out of the way so real conversation can happen.

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Puempel +17th for 5th overall.
lmao.

That would essentially be the 24th and 17th pick for the 5th pick.

And this is after Puempel posted his lowest OHL PPG, 2 seasons after he was drafted.

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Hmmm, weren't they talking with Edmonton? I'm sure they would rather move down 2 spots than some of these 10+ moves.

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whats CARs needs/interests right now?

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lmao.

That would essentially be the 24th and 17th pick for the 5th pick.

And this is after Puempel posted his lowest OHL PPG, 2 seasons after he was drafted.
He has been hurt the last 2 years but still has tremendous upside.

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06-21-2013, 09:29 PM
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He has been hurt the last 2 years but still has tremendous upside.
no way puempel alone moves you into the top 5.

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Edmonton and Phoenix would be my guesses in terms of dancing partners.

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Diaz + Desharnais + 25th for 5th overall.

There. I got it out of the way so real conversation can happen.


Take out the 25th pick and that might net us the 35th pick!

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He has been hurt the last 2 years but still has tremendous upside.
I don't think the Sens have any prospects that they could package to move up to the 5th spot. Puempel and Ceci have both regressed since being drafted and Noesen is too much of a wild card

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Carolina has the top end skill and the goalie to lead them. It seems they need a dman and some depth.

I think Carolina would be looking for a top 2 dman and a top 9 forward. That would be my guess as it deals with both needs.

If not, Carolina will just draft whomever they want and deal with the other issues later.

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Edmonton and Phoenix would be my guesses in terms of dancing partners.
CAL might also be a fit, if they are worried EDM would jump ahead of them and pick whoever they want at 6 OV.

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[QUOTE]Previously discussed with some receptiveness:

5 + Zac Dalpe + Justin Peters for 12th + Brandon Gormley/QUOTE]

I'd take it if I was Carolina

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Carolina needs a top-4 D or high-end prospect D and a 1st.

A deal around:
Gormley + 12th for 5th+
7th + Petry or Smid for 5th+
8th + Sekera or Ehrhoff for 5th+
Ryan Murray + 27th for 5th+

This level of trade. Carolina would add prospects/picks/players to even it out. McBain, Dalpe, Bowman, Welsh, Ruutu, etc. depending on the deal.

If there are no takers Canes are happy with the pick. But there are great Centers to be had, so the pick is on the table.

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Trade with Buffalo! Pretty please

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no way puempel alone moves you into the top 5.
He doesn't even move you in to the Top 12.

He has such little value at this point considering all his injuries the last 2 years and poor production last year.

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06-21-2013, 09:46 PM
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9th Overall + ??? to move up to the 5th

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Edmonton seems to make a lot of sense if Carolina feels confident they can get Nichushkin or a defenseman at 7. Edmonton will want Monahan or Lindholm if they are trading up and Calgary will want whichever one EDM doesn't take. Edmonton wants to ensure they are getting there guy before Calgary does which is why they make the deal.

Anything below EDM's pick would be considered a risk unless they have a different scenario in mind than Nichushkin/defenseman.

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Edmonton seems to make a lot of sense if Carolina feels confident they can get Nichushkin or a defenseman at 7. Edmonton will want Monahan or Lindholm if they are trading up and Calgary will want whichever one EDM doesn't take. Edmonton wants to ensure they are getting there guy before Calgary does which is why they make the deal.

Anything below EDM's pick would be considered a risk unless they have a different scenario in mind than Nichushkin/defenseman.
Hey! So does Buffalo.

All 3 of us want the same 2 players in Monahan and Lindholm One of us will miss out.

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Edmonton and Phoenix would be my guesses in terms of dancing partners.
I second this. Gormley+12th for 5th+Dalpe+Peters gets it done for me.

To spice things up, Yakupov+7th for Skinner+5th. Maybe toss in Mcbain and MPS.

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Honestly, Toronto should ditch the idea of nabbing Bernier and throw down a package to the Canes for #5...something with Gardiner or Reilly + Biggs if they don't want pick #21 (he's a 3rd/4th line plug, Leaf fans, deal with it) for #5 + McBain

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Hey! So does Buffalo.

All 3 of us want the same 2 players in Monahan and Lindholm One of us will miss out.
This is why JR made the pick available. Canes will be happy at 5 if they don't get a great offer, but the bid-war between CGY, EDM, BUF, NJ, and even 10-12 teams (PHX) might just escalate to the point where it is worth moving back.

Canes have already said it is worth it if they can improve the D and not move back too far. Attainable goal, I would say.

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