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07-12-2013, 07:42 PM
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Rasmus Ristolainen signs ELC

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BREAKING: The #Sabres have signed 2013 1st round pick Rasmus Ristolainen to an entry level contract. Details to follow.

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07-12-2013, 07:43 PM
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Yay

Put him Rochester to start the year and call him up if he dominates, no need to rush this guy.

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Good signing.
Nah, this is horrible. Fire Regier!!



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On a serious note, I wonder what the terms are and if that affects their ability to get him to go to Rochester.

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As we saw with Armia, this doesn't mean he won't be back in Finland, but it does mean that the Sabres are in full control of where he is. Judging by Regier's comments, it seems they strongly prefer Rochester to Finland in Ristolainen's case. The adjustment to the ice size is a bigger one for defensemen imo, so perhaps that's why they have that preference where they didn't seem to push for it in Armia's case.

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As we saw with Armia, this doesn't mean he won't be back in Finland, but it does mean that the Sabres are in full control of where he is. Judging by Regier's comments, it seems they strongly prefer Rochester to Finland in Ristolainen's case. The adjustment to the ice size is a bigger one for defensemen imo, so perhaps that's why they have that preference where they didn't seem to push for it in Armia's case.
It doesn't mean they have full control, it means they can put him in the NHL or in Finland.

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It doesn't mean they have full control, it means they can put him in the NHL or in Finland.
So he can't play in Rochester?

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love it. if we are going to suffer, I want young kids to watch.
Thats kinda creepy

Suck voyeurs?

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Suck voyeurs?
As if "Suck voyeurs" isn't creepy. Pot::::kettle

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As if "Suck voyeurs" isn't creepy. Pot::::kettle
Thats what he wants not me

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So he can't play in Rochester?
No, he shouldn't be able to because he signed an extension with TPS until April 2015.
The Sabres seem to feel differently, but it was confirmed by TPS and the player himself acknowledges the existence of a contract.
Transfer agreements that the NHL has with European federations allow for players with existing contracts to be signed and try out for NHL teams, but if they are cut, they must be sent back to Europe for the remainder of their European contract.

Throwing him in Rochester for a long period of time is stupid anyways, in my opinion.
I think the FEL is a better league because it's not constantly losing its best players to call ups, plus some of the rinks are already North American sized and the style is probably the closest to North American hockey of any European league.
The transition between rinks is overstated a lot of the time anyways.

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It doesn't mean they have full control, it means they can put him in the NHL or in Finland.
How do you figure if he's under contract with the Sabres?

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No, he shouldn't be able to because he signed an extension with TPS until April 2015.
The Sabres seem to feel differently, but it was confirmed by TPS and the player himself acknowledges the existence of a contract.
Transfer agreements that the NHL has with European federations allow for players with existing contracts to be signed and try out for NHL teams, but if they are cut, they must be sent back to Europe for the remainder of their European contract.

Throwing him in Rochester for a long period of time is stupid anyways, in my opinion.
I think the FEL is a better league because it's not constantly losing its best players to call ups, plus some of the rinks are already North American sized and the style is probably the closest to North American hockey of any European league.
The transition between rinks is overstated a lot of the time anyways.
Are you saying that despite now having a contract with him, they'd be forced to loan him back to Finland if he's not in the NHL?

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No, he shouldn't be able to because he signed an extension with TPS until April 2015.
The Sabres seem to feel differently, but it was confirmed by TPS and the player himself acknowledges the existence of a contract.
Transfer agreements that the NHL has with European federations allow for players with existing contracts to be signed and try out for NHL teams, but if they are cut, they must be sent back to Europe for the remainder of their European contract.

Throwing him in Rochester for a long period of time is stupid anyways, in my opinion.
I think the FEL is a better league because it's not constantly losing its best players to call ups, plus some of the rinks are already North American sized and the style is probably the closest to North American hockey of any European league.
The transition between rinks is overstated a lot of the time anyways.
The Sabres could easily buy him out of the deal, but im sure the writing will allow him to go to Rochester

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How do you figure if he's under contract with the Sabres?



Are you saying that despite now having a contract with him, they'd be forced to loan him back to Finland if he's not in the NHL?
Yes.
European federations want their players either in the NHL or fulfilling their commitments in their domestic leagues, not toiling away in the minors where they likely won't even be loaned to national teams.

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The Sabres could easily buy him out of the deal, but im sure the writing will allow him to go to Rochester
You'd think we'd see that more often if it was possible, no?

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Yes.
European federations want their players either in the NHL or fulfilling their commitments in their domestic leagues, not toiling away in the minors where they likely won't even be loaned to national teams.
What I'm asking is if it matters what European federations want. Wouldn't his contract have had to have been bought out already in order to sign an NHL contract?

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What I'm asking is if it matters what European federations want. Wouldn't his contract have had to have been bought out already in order to sign an NHL contract?
Well what the European federations want plays a big role in how the transfer agreements are drawn up and what their terms are.

Are the transfer agreements available for public perusal, by the way?

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What I'm asking is if it matters what European federations want. Wouldn't his contract have had to have been bought out already in order to sign an NHL contract?
There are signing windows (end of season until 7/15 is the normal window, 8/15 late window, I believe teams have to pay an additional $100,000 compensation) that allow them to sign an NHL contract and be a candidate to attend training camp (if the team chooses so), but this does not terminate the contract.
The two contracts can run concurrently because the NHL contract does not go into effect unless the player plays more than nine NHL games in one season or enters his 20 year old season.

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Well what the European federations want plays a big role in how the transfer agreements are drawn up and what their terms are.

Are the transfer agreements available for public perusal, by the way?
BoH may have links to some, but they're usually published in foreign languages and are basically all the same agreement.

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IIHF transfer pdf

http://www.iihf.com/fileadmin/user_u...s_20130204.pdf

not sure if thats what was asking for

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Suck voyeurs?
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IIHF transfer pdf

http://www.iihf.com/fileadmin/user_u...s_20130204.pdf

not sure if thats what was asking for

*in english
No, this document is from September 2012.
New PTA's were signed this spring around the time Carl Söderberg was signed.

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No different than them signing Armia. It's either NHL or Finland, with the contract sliding until applicable NHL games played triggers are tripped.

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