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06-23-2013, 02:30 PM
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Sam Gagner
Magnus Paajarvi

To

Dion Phaneuf
Tor's 2 nd

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Come on. And we'd have to add in our 2nd too?

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I thought Phaneuf was underated, but this thread is something else. Seriously, same value as Gagner? Phaneuf plays the hardest minutes of any player in the NHL.
sounds more overrated after reading this TBH

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I thought Phaneuf was underated, but this thread is something else. Seriously, same value as Gagner? Phaneuf plays the hardest minutes of any player in the NHL.
Someone with some sense... Finally. This thread is beyond brutal.

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Something around the base of Gagner for Phaneuf, or Gagner for Edler, both make sense.

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We will keep him.
Please do.

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06-23-2013, 02:32 PM
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sens and oilers fan.

i was just thinking Oil would require a center coming back and i see Bozak a couple times a year he's a really solid center good defensively and great at faceoffs.

no way they'll move Kadri and Bozak IMO is there second best center. It's ok if the value is not there cause well it never seems to be, but i personally really like Bozak and i hate the leafs.
It's pretty simple. Gagner is great for our 2nd line, but he'll likely be looking for a large payday or we just aren't comfortable moving forward with him. This is why we move him. MacT's plan is to acquire a top 6 centerman with the 7th overall and hopefully get Barkov (Unlikely, though). That means if we can find a center that can replace Gagner (IE Barkov) then it makes him expendable for a top 4 defenseman.

We cannot trade our 7th and Gagner for a bottom 6 centerman and a top 4 D because it would make us extremely weak at center where we are already weak. A trade around Phaneuf + Gagner would be ideal. You can have your pick of the spare part but don't involve the 7th because that's center or bust.

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06-23-2013, 02:33 PM
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Why would the Canucks have interest in Gagner?
Don't they have H.Sedin and Kesler down the middle?

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Phaneuf for Gagner is a solid base IMO. Oilers would have to add but defs not the 7 th pick.
How is that a solid base? Where does Gagner fit in with Kadri, Grabo, Colborne, McClement, and Bozak. Perhaps we should keep a 5.5M Grabo in a 3rd line checking role for another depth center we have no need for.

Don't even get me started about the loss of Phaneuf on our back-end. There's seriously zero chance Nonis would make a deal around Gagner. It would have to be the Oilers #7, and even then, that doesn't make us a better team next year.

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It's pretty simple. Gagner is great for our 2nd line, but he'll likely be looking for a large payday or we just aren't comfortable moving forward with him. This is why we move him. MacT's plan is to acquire a top 6 centerman with the 7th overall and hopefully get Barkov (Unlikely, though). That means if we can find a center that can replace Gagner (IE Barkov) then it makes him expendable for a top 4 defenseman.

We cannot trade our 7th and Gagner for a bottom 6 centerman and a top 4 D because it would make us extremely weak at center where we are already weak. A trade around Phaneuf + Gagner would be ideal. You can have your pick of the spare part but don't involve the 7th because that's center or bust.
Solid take makes a lot of sense TBH.

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06-23-2013, 02:34 PM
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As an Oiler fan, I'm only open to moving Gagner if we can get a big 2nd line C to replace him. We're already getting rid of Horcoff so our Centre depth is awful at the moment.
Well the Canucks are out.

I wouldn't mind Gagner, but let's be real here, he's not the kind of player we would want as a 3C.

The other options would be something like Kesler-Gagner-whomever. Not terrible, but unless we have him coming in as part of a clear cut win for the Canucks, I can't see this going down well.

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Why would the Canucks have interest in Gagner?
Don't they have H.Sedin and Kesler down the middle?
Not sure. Unless they feel Gagner will play a third line role, although Torts will prob hate that. Does he play wing?

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My guess is Canucks kicked the tires because his dad works for them-- done that before with Ian and Morgan Clark. Probably nothing will come of it (unless it involves Luongo for Gagner?).

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Not sure. Unless they feel Gagner will play a third line role, although Torts will prob hate that. Does he play wing?
I believe he used to play RW but ideally he is a 2C

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If Jake Gardiner is involved in any talks for Sam Gagner then I say no thank you, because as far as I'm concered he should be un-touchable.


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Come on. And we'd have to add in our 2nd too?
Gagner is the most underrated player on this board.

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**** gagner. Nonis is a bonehead if this rumour is true. He doesn't add anything to our lineup that we need and we become worse defensively and on the dot.

Gagner can go to some team that doesn't give a **** about making the playoffs. The Leafs need to aim higher.

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Ugh can someone post where it says Van's interested?

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Phaneuf will not be moved

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**** gagner. Nonis is a bonehead if this rumour is true. He doesn't add anything to our lineup that we need and we become worse defensively and on the dot.

Gagner can go to some team that doesn't give a **** about making the playoffs. The Leafs need to aim higher.
they have been for a long time... they can't get centers.

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Ugh can someone post where it says Van's interested?
It's in the OP.

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Vancouver has also has discussions about Gagner as Sam's dad Dave is part of Canucks MGMT.

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NO LEAFS. Don't ruin it.

I don't want Sam Gagner. Soft as hell and he has no chance to be a #1C to make up for his softness.

Carlyle will hate him.

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Gagner is the most underrated player on this board.
Agreed. The guy got 38 pts in 48 games this year and is still only 23
I think it's mostly because our team sucks so the perceived value of all of our players is lower

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gardiner or phaneuf will not be traded for gagner +. we dont want him. edm fans needs to stop with these proposals of gagner to T.O. for our dmen.

get dmen elsewhere.

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Ah thanks. I'd be ecstatic if we landed Gagner, I'm really high on him so I get why other Canucks fans wouldn't be interested. Wouldn't move Edler for him though but Luongo for Gagner

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Agreed. The guy got 38 pts in 48 games this year and is still only 23
I think it's mostly because our team sucks so the perceived value of all of our players is lower
Yup, maybe it's because he's been in the league for so long and people think he's 30+

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gardiner or phaneuf will not be traded for gagner +. we dont want him. edm fans needs to stop with these proposals of gagner to T.O. for our dmen.

get dmen elsewhere.
Where exactly do you propose they look? No one else is available, and no, Yandle isn't available either.

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