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06-29-2013, 11:47 AM
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#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

man

I hate that trade
While I'm not giddy over it, if the Flyers managed to get Cousins out of the deal, then I think its probably reasonably fair value that addresses a few needs.

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06-29-2013, 11:48 AM
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That Jim Stark guy is probably more unreliable than Eklund and Hockey Insider...

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06-29-2013, 11:52 AM
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Seguin now available?! I guess we're not the only impatient ones around.

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06-29-2013, 11:56 AM
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Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

man

I hate that trade
Change Cousins for Read and ask to substitute Paajarvi for Eberle.

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06-29-2013, 11:57 AM
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06-29-2013, 11:59 AM
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To me, it's starting to sound like Meszaros is untradeable. We might have to just bite the bullet. We may have to trade Coburn because no team will take Meszaros on.
Most likely because hes still injured and not back to being 100%.... I'm fairly certain even if he was allowed to be traded by the league it would be extremely difficult to find a suitor.

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06-29-2013, 12:00 PM
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Change Cousins for Read and ask to substitute Paajarvi for Eberle.
Do you really think the Oilers would casually add Eberle to that deal? There is no way in hell they are adding Eberle to that deal or trading him for anything but a massive over payment

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06-29-2013, 12:02 PM
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Most likely because hes still injured and not back to being 100%.... I'm fairly certain even if he was allowed to be traded by the league it would be extremely difficult to find a suitor.
I don't think he's untradeable. I think it comes down to Coburn fetching you the higher return. You could easily ditch Mez off on a team for a 7th rounder or Future Considerations.

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06-29-2013, 12:03 PM
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Do you really think the Oilers would casually add Eberle to that deal? There is no way in hell they are adding Eberle to that deal or trading him for anything but a massive over payment
This weekend is NO time for rational thought!! Shoot for the moon and see how MacTavish responds.

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06-29-2013, 12:04 PM
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Do not listen to Jim Stark. I just asked Dreger about there being any validity with that rumor and he said NO way.

A lot of fake insiders out there this week!

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06-29-2013, 12:04 PM
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How funny would it be if the draft comes and goes tomorrow and there are no significant moves at all? Haha

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06-29-2013, 12:06 PM
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I'm honestly not too keen on moving Coburn right now. I know hes the whipping boy right now on the boards but imo last year is an anomaly of injuries and just general nonsense that one could not even begin to predict that you have to throw it out the window. Now if they right price comes along, sure make the deal. The rumored trades however seem to make the Flyers the desperate team instead of the one dealing from a position of strength. If this many teams are truly inquiring about Brayden's services then we should be in good shape if a deal is done. Your probably looking at interest from young teams that didn't make the playoffs looking to get a vet anchor on their back end. One would think those teams have the assets in the system that they would be willing to overpay to acquire some immediate talent. Just speculation and logic on my part but I just would hate to see Coburn moved in a lateral deal that doesn't make us better.

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06-29-2013, 12:08 PM
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Jim Stark ‏@JimStarkSports 52s
#Flyers #Oilers #NHL Rumor - Just got word following deal on table: Paajarvi, 7th pick, , 56th pick for Coburn, Cousins, 11th and 72nd picks

man

I hate that trade


I assume you are a Flyers fan..........as a Oilers fan I hate it also but if you swap Cousins for Matt Read we might be able to talk some more............!!!

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06-29-2013, 12:09 PM
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People really over value their own players, from both sides.

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06-29-2013, 12:10 PM
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I assume you are a Flyers fan..........as a Oilers fan I hate it also but if you swap Cousins for Matt Read we might be able to talk some more............!!!


Stay on the main boards.

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06-29-2013, 12:10 PM
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I would not trade a 2nd round pick for MPS, let alone Coburn, Cousins, and the privileged to draft 5 spots higher.

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I assume you are a Flyers fan..........as a Oilers fan I hate it also but if you swap Cousins for Matt Read we might be able to talk some more............!!!
lolwut

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06-29-2013, 12:12 PM
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I assume you are a Flyers fan..........as a Oilers fan I hate it also but if you swap Cousins for Matt Read we might be able to talk some more............!!!
That's not a serious idea. Read is worth more than Paajarvi at this point, even taking into account his contract status.

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06-29-2013, 12:17 PM
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While I'm not giddy over it, if the Flyers managed to get Cousins out of the deal, then I think its probably reasonably fair value that addresses a few needs.
Agreed. Moving up 4 spots in the 1st and swapping a 3rd for a 2nd plus Paajarvi is a fair deal for a top 4 defensemen. Cousins would sway the deal towards Edmonton a little due to Paarjarvi being a bit of a bust at this point even though I like him. Does't matter as the source is questionable at best.

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06-29-2013, 12:19 PM
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That rumor with Coburn + a million other pieces I bogus. Not even credible source. So many rumors right now it's unreal. Lightning are a candidate to get seguin also. Kind of surprised by that news to be honest. Think if I was them I would take my chances with drouin being the playmaker of the future for stamkos.

I honestly don't think the 7th is out of the realm of possibilities for Coburn, he is most likely values more by gm's than us fan boys/and girls

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06-29-2013, 12:31 PM
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That rumor with Coburn + a million other pieces I bogus. Not even credible source. So many rumors right now it's unreal. Lightning are a candidate to get seguin also. Kind of surprised by that news to be honest. Think if I was them I would take my chances with drouin being the playmaker of the future for stamkos.

I honestly don't think the 7th is out of the realm of possibilities for Coburn, he is most likely values more by gm's than us fan boys/and girls
I still believe he's going to Carolina if he's moved.
The 5th overall coming back, for something alongside Coburn.

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06-29-2013, 12:33 PM
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I still believe he's going to Carolina if he's moved.
The 5th overall coming back, for something alongside Coburn.
According to Dreger's video the interest in Coburn is STRONG. And it sounds like Homer is trying to keep the 11th. Be interesting what they add.

I know Coburn isnt like Staal but remember what the Pens got for him. There was a bidding war on Staal and the price went up. We can only hope that it is true for a top 4 defender.

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Sounds like Coburn + #11 for Paajarvi + #7 may be real close.
Damnit. Keep the 11th . I like MPS though so....

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06-29-2013, 12:35 PM
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“Doesn’t think (Paajarvi) will be enough from PHI’s standpoint, they want a better player from EDM’s system.”

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06-29-2013, 12:36 PM
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I honestly think eberle is who we are after. There really isn't much more than that. Lol if that goes down too. Edmonton fans will riot

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Dreger said on TSN that we are indeed looking for a good young forward to come back from Edmonton for Coburn. He said MPS' name has come up but he doesn't think it's going to be good enough from a Flyers perspective. He thinks there's going to be more than that and perhaps a better forward in the Oilers system coming back.

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