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06-29-2013, 12:52 PM
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Get MPS and draft Nichuskin.

Nichuskin-Giroux-Voracek
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Rinaldo-Laughton-Talbot

We just dont have a young defender AGAIN.
Me likes that lineup.

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And what if it turns out that we end up getting MPS+Ristolainen for Coburn+Nurse? That would be pretty annoying.
Sure that's possible. But really you could say that about any trade. It would definitely be annoying if one of the two were available at 11, but if they really want Nurse/Risto (which they very well may), it would be more annoying to get neither and still have Coburn (if they are looking to trade him, which it appears they are). I still think MPS has a lot of potential. I mean if people are so upset that we "gave up" on JvR at the ripe old age of 23, why not take chance on a younger player with arguably a higher ceiling than JvR that another team is "giving up" on?

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I wouldn't we could do better than that. Homer's holding all the cards here. If we didn't trade Coburn it wouldn't be the absolute worst thing ever.
We think Homer is holding all the cards, but you don't know how badly Homer wants to trade up. From the outside, I agree, it looks like EDM is desperate for Coburn (or a Coburn-like player). But if Homer and co. really want to trade up for a shot at Nurse or someone else, then he's not holding all the cards. Also, I think we may be overvaluing Coburn here. I like Coburn and didn't really want to trade him because I feel that opens a hole in our defense, but that was before names like MPS were being thrown around. I figured they would just get non-first round picks or B-level prospects for him (or dime-a-dozen NHLers). Despite MPS's underwhelming Sophomore and Junior years, he is still a high-ceiling prospect. I doubt Coburn is getting us much more than that. Eberle + 7 would be an outrageous overpayment for Coburn + 11. Don't get me wrong, I'd do it in a heartbeat and would rather have that deal than MPS, but that deal simply is not happening. The Flyers would be adding to that deal.

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06-29-2013, 12:53 PM
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Wouldn't it be fun if we got Hemsky instead of MPS. Lol
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Read this from multiple twitter people but if we get MPS the chance of Read getting traded increases greatly.

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Get MPS and draft Nichuskin.

Nichuskin-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Schenn-Simmonds
MPS-Couturier-Read
Rinaldo-Laughton-Talbot

We just dont have a young defender AGAIN.
Sign a 4th C like Hall, bump Lughton up to 3C. Couts up to 2C, Schenn to wing and trade Read + pick for 22 overall and go for Morrissey.

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I just don't see the appeal of MPS.

I was a huge fan of MPS leading into his draft and he looked like a mini-Hossa... but what he has shown so far is that he is a dime-a-dozen player.

I would rather us take out the 11th and sweeten the deal with a 2nd, Cousins, or whatever.

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06-29-2013, 12:58 PM
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We think Homer is holding all the cards, but you don't know how badly Homer wants to trade up. From the outside, I agree, it looks like EDM is desperate for Coburn (or a Coburn-like player). But if Homer and co. really want to trade up for a shot at Nurse or someone else, then he's not holding all the cards. Also, I think we may be overvaluing Coburn here. I like Coburn and didn't really want to trade him because I feel that opens a hole in our defense, but that was before names like MPS were being thrown around. I figured they would just get non-first round picks or B-level prospects for him (or dime-a-dozen NHLers). Despite MPS's underwhelming Sophomore and Junior years, he is still a high-ceiling prospect. I doubt Coburn is getting us much more than that. Eberle + 7 would be an outrageous overpayment for Coburn + 11. Don't get me wrong, I'd do it in a heartbeat and would rather have that deal than MPS, but that deal simply is not happening. The Flyers would be adding to that deal.
How are we overrating him? Dreger and other writers have said we could get more than MPS for Coburn.

I'm not hinting at Eberle but the swap of picks and MPS is just pointless.


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06-29-2013, 01:00 PM
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Coburn, 11 for Eberle? I think Holmgren's goal this weekend is to find a winger for Giroux and Voracek.

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06-29-2013, 01:04 PM
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this is so exciting!!!!

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not sure how

this trade with the coilers is gonna end. the coilers will be doing lots of talking with lots of teams. they are not happy one bit with the way their young team of 3 #1s is coming together. i would rank their possible deal with us as mid range, and they are gonna think big and move their way down their list. eberle is gonna be in the mix for a big fish. eberle will not be involved in a mid range deal with us. i watched eberle in bantam and midget, he played in the same league as my nephew. it was very obvious at that age that he had the highest skill and smarts level in the whole province of saskatchewan.

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06-29-2013, 01:05 PM
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How are we overrating him? Dreger and other writers have said we could get more than MPS for Coburn.
I haven't seen these quotes. I've seen them saying the Flyers are ASKING more. Also it is possible they are overvaluing him as well.

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06-29-2013, 01:07 PM
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How are we overrating him? Dreger and other writers have said we could get more than MPS for Coburn.
Totally.

We are accused of "overrating Coburn" but in the same paragraph this guy gets giddy about "a name like MPS."

Why would/should anyone get excited for MPS? He is a candidate for a player you buy low on, not trade our only tradeable defensive asset for.

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06-29-2013, 01:09 PM
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I haven't seen these quotes. I've seen them saying the Flyers are ASKING more. Also it is possible they are overvaluing him as well.
It's either the second to last or third to last video update tsn put out. Check dregers feed. He says it right on there

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I haven't seen these quotes. I've seen them saying the Flyers are ASKING more. Also it is possible they are overvaluing him as well.
I would say they have more knowledge on this situation than both me, you, or any Oiler fan with no bias.

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Mps?

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Rich Smith ‏@ALLsportsINTEL 4m

NHL - Source - Oilers fans likely to feel like they were robbed if the Oilers meet the Flyers asking price for Coburn.

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Rich Smith ‏@ALLsportsINTEL 4m

NHL - Source - Oilers fans likely to feel like they were robbed if the Oilers meet the Flyers asking price for Coburn.
Yeah okay Oils fans.

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Get MPS and draft Nichuskin.

Nichuskin-Giroux-Voracek
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MPS-Couturier-Read
Rinaldo-Laughton-Talbot

We just dont have a young defender AGAIN.
Nichushkin comes in from day one as a first liner?

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has't really lived up to his potential yet :s

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Nichushkin comes in from day one as a first liner?
We should put MPS first line, see what happens.

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While MPS is a very intriguing player, with loads of untapped potential, him for Coburn is absolute robbery by EDM. 16 points in 42 games last year. I just think the asking price is too high.

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OMG make a trade already somebody!!

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Panatch: The Coburn trade talk is NOT about getting EDM 1stR pick (7); it's about their 2 second-round picks which would give Flyers 3 in that round
2:22pm - 29 Jun 13

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Panatch: The Coburn trade talk is NOT about getting EDM 1stR pick (7); it's about their 2 second-round picks which would give Flyers 3 in that round
2:22pm - 29 Jun 13
So Homer is more interested in obtaining more picks than moving up in the first round.

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