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06-25-2013, 07:15 AM
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Was Handzus a "missing piece" ?

Simple question: was Handzus a missing piece for Blackhawks.
Certainly bought for 4th line and as a faceoff specialist, played out of his mind in 2nd line and far exceeded expectations about him.

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06-25-2013, 07:26 AM
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If Hand of Zeus is the missing piece, does it mean that Blackhawks are an ancient god ?

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A missing piece as in they would not have won Stanley Cup without him? No..

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I respect the hell out of the Blackhawks and congratulations on the win.

But he was far and away my least favorite player out there. Even way more than Shaw. Such a cheap, ****** player.

So, IMO, no he was not the missing piece. He was a shrewd acquisition, sure, but they are winning the series without him.

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He impressed me. Managed to get a career high 11 points in the playoffs and had a few good plays. Considering the year he had in SJ prior to coming to Chicago my hats off to him. Great to see some of the veterans finally win their first Cup.

Roszival was the highlight of the veteran acquisitions Bowman made. He ate up minutes and was overall very solid on the back end.

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I don't think you can say they would've won without him or not. He was slow, yeah, but scored some very important goals and contributed a lot more than Hawks fans were expecting.

So yeah, I'd say he was something they needed. He helped fill the #2C gap, which proved very important to the depth players.

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06-25-2013, 09:04 AM
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With the way it all turned out? I don't know about a missing piece, but he certainly helped.

They traded for a guy that had 1 goal and 2 points in 28 games at the time of the trade. I can't imagine they thought he would end up with more goals, and more points, in the playoffs than he had in the regular season, in fewer games.

Every team that wins a Cup gets unexpected production from somewhere. Handzus would be one of those guys this year. Even a stacked Chicago team in 2010 ended up with Byfuglien tied for the team lead in goals in the playoffs. Hossa had 3 goals in the playoffs that year. Good luck trying to predict that.

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I think he was a great move, and I said it when they got him.

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Possibly. He turned out to be a big help to them. He wasn't even in the line up on a consistent basis in San Jose. He was only useful in the shootouts and just didn't seem to fit. It was best SJ moved him. But with the Hawks, he looked like a rejuvenated player. Very happy to see him finally win the Cup.

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He was healthy scratched in San Jose for like 5 games straight

He sucked

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06-25-2013, 10:29 AM
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Zeus was everything Brendan Morrison was supposed to be in 2012.
A solid veteran who can win faceoffs and eat up some minutes at center.

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I'm happy for him. And he certainly contributed. But Hawks could have won with a multitude of rental centers.

The only reason he played as well as he, seemingly, did is because his wingers were Hossa/Sharp/Kane.

And it shouldn't come as a surprise that Kane played MUCH better when he wasn't paired with Zeus. Likewise, Hossa/Sharp played worse when they were paired with him.

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yes he was for sure.

Still laugh about the scouting reports the Hawks got after the trade from the Sharks fans. They could have certainly used Handzus themselfs

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They could have certainly used Handzus themselfs
So would he have displaced Thornton, Couture or Pavelski?

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Handzus was huge. He really was.

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Handzus frustrated me at times (like the 0-10 faceoffs game) but it was interesting to me to see just how respected and much a part of things he was in the postgame celly which makes me look at him in a little different light.

Not sure if "missing piece" is the right term for it but he definitely clicked well with the younger core blackhawks and despite being older than them or because he's older than them he brought a lot of desire knowing this was maybe his last best shot.

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Last 2 minutes of game 6 really personified Handzus' time with the Hawks. He was the extra attacker along with Toews line when we needed the tying goal then he was the forward along with Toews and Frolik when they were protecting the lead. All this while playing with an injured hand and a torn MCL. Coach Q relied on him and he came through.

Pretty classy of Toews to hand him the cup first.

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For a 4th round pick, he was certainly a steal.

I mean what are the chances of a 4th round pick ever making it to the NHL?

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I respect the hell out of the Blackhawks and congratulations on the win.

But he was far and away my least favorite player out there. Even way more than Shaw. Such a cheap, ****** player.

So, IMO, no he was not the missing piece. He was a shrewd acquisition, sure, but they are winning the series without him.
Every player on the Bruins is a piece of thrash compared to Handzus.

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It was a good move for the Hawks obviously.

And a good move for the Sharks. For whatever reason he was putting in ZERO effort with San Jose and was thus useless to them. Completely lazy and disinterested. I doubt that would have changed in the playoffs. I'm sure the Sharks are much happier with the pick.

Win-Win for both teams.

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He's the one Hawk that I was happy to see win it. I felt a little bad for him that the Kings won it the year after he moved on. The fact that he was a contributor for the Hawks, not a total passenger, makes it all the better. I don't know if they wouldn't have won it without him, but he certainly helped.

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He was healthy scratched in San Jose for like 5 games straight

He sucked
No offense, but maybe San Jose "sucked" for not knowing how to best utilize or encourage him. Maybe there's a reason why Chicago has two Cups in the last 4 years and San Jose has none. I'm not ragging on SJ or trying to upset their fans; I'm just stating the truth. One team gets the most out of players who ought to be invisible, like Handzus and Bickell, and the other seems to always wonder why its players who ought to be visible at important times aren't. It's true that Handzus isn't a great player, but you shouldn't rag on him when another team gets more out of him than yours. That should tell you more about your team than about the player.


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Welcome to professional sports - where every player is different and the people they play with, coaches they play under and systems they play within all create different results for said player.

It's what makes it so damn exciting!!!

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No way we (Hawks) coulda expected THIS Zeus...He was much better offensively than he looked earlier this year & didn't take any crap from the Bs...I'd be surprised if he didn't leave on top.

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yes he was for sure.

Still laugh about the scouting reports the Hawks got after the trade from the Sharks fans. They could have certainly used Handzus themselfs
I honestly don't get what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say that the Sharks fans who gave you those scouting reports are poor evaluators of talent in a player?

Maybe a better scouting report would be from an NHL GM who has never missed the playoffs in 10 years, despite not always being to always spend to the cap, and being absolutely unable to attract free agents? Because he traded this player away for a 4th. And the head coach of his team scratched Handzus for something like 5 straight games. And this is a coach who has been known throughout his career to put too much emphasis on veteran leadership and shot blocking.

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He certainly played the best hockey I've seen him play in years.

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